Talib Kweli On Jay-Z Illuminati Claims

Saturday, January 02 2010 12:09 PM EST | Posted by: Big Homie | Posted in: Blog, True Story

Since the premiere of Jay-Z’s new video, more conspiracy theories have emerged, accusing Hov of being involved in the Illuminati. This morning on Twitter, Talib shared his thoughts on the propaganda.

Comments (186)

  1. Polobear718 says:

    These Illuminati conspiracy cats are weirdos!

  2. mikedreamsmusic says:

    We’ll never really know what people are TRULY about unless we are them…or God. So I think the speculation now just becomes a waste of time. I personally believe that Jay dropped this video with that stuff in it personally just to mess with people who love to speculate all the time (which has been me from time to time…I can’t even front). But now it’s almost like it’s just funny to people, so they play with the idea to continue having people talk about it.

    “Any Publicity is good publicity.”

  3. BE says:

    I’m tired of all this stuff.. who cares.

  4. H.IMPERIAL says:

    I’M GLAD SOMEBODY SPOKE ON THIS NONSENSE……LIKE JAY SAID…..NIGGAZ STUCK ON STUPID…..

  5. B.Dot says:

    YN is illuminati
    ^
    And Rap Radar got my mind soul and body.

  6. blaqscorpio says:

    Lol. Waiting on the peeps to come and say he don’t KNOW ish, even though he’s actually met these people, while they only know them through their computer.

  7. Ziggy says:

    YN is illuminati
    ^
    And Rap Radar got my mind soul and body.
    ^
    Bloggers tryna keep their eye on me

  8. WhatsUpSon says:

    Big up to people who separate theatricals from their personal lives. Have a nice day.

  9. just my thoughts people says:

    All I have to say is that the devil has you right where he wants you…ignorant (ignoring the facts) and blind (I don’t care who they worship, it’s not me). Keep it up folks…the truth has no choice but to be revealed in due time. Which side will you be on? Yeah right…ok so now Jay-Z is making a mockery of what people “think” about him…all I can say is I feel TRULY sorry for those that refuse to see what’s right in front of you. I’m not even surprised…it’s been a long time coming, our brains are programmed to believe and comment just way you guys are. PEACE

  10. B.Dot says:

    ^
    Dude, get a life…and some pussy.

  11. trees says:

    LMFFFFFFAAAAOOOOOOOO at the last declaration.

  12. joe camel ! says:

    if jay z is claiming or acting to be a member of illuminati he better be careful cause the real illuminati’s gonna ask for his head when they ready , they gon be on his ass at some point.

  13. G-ses says:

    Religious fanatics, with a biblical axe to grind, or simply ignorant persons that have failed to escape the mind control traps set for them by the former have always insisted that Baphomet depicts the ultimate in evil and dread terrors. Is this mysteriously ominous figure really the personification of all that is bad and negative in the world or is there another side to the situation?

  14. Nathaniel says:

    “I mean there are real forms of systematic oppression yall could be making youtube vids about”

    ^what i been saying from the jump. niggas is blind. smh

  15. Idiots, is publicity says:

    Idiots, this shit only is publicity.

    Now they must be laughing at you for continuing this shit. Stupid, since Eminem is back all the rappers try to match it with fear or killer songs … why? because they have no personality, the rapper bothered less commercial and more honest is the best-selling albums. To all those rappers who try to translate Marshall 3am in dire que les Em sells more for being unique. It is he who has earned the name “bad boy”! What has been achieved without being “gangster”.
    Do not be so stupid and do not follow this shit … All lies.

    Go away to listen to Tupac, Eminem, Notorious BIG. c’mon guy

  16. ExHortation says:

    0:09 throws up the masonic demonic compass (not peace signs)????????????

    LOOK KIDS IF YOU THROW UP A PEACE SIGN IT IS NOT REALLY A PEACE SIGN ITS A MASONIC DEMONIC COMPASS. US PEOPLE MADE IT AS A PEACE SIGN

  17. Ty says:

    Yep , I truly believe that the first person Ri Ri, Jay or Ye would run to to tell they had sold out (spiritually) would be Talib Kweli . The fact that he doesn’t believe it totally deads it as a possibility . . . . . . . . . . . . right?

    Man, I respect Kweli as an artist and as a thinker . However, I doubt he would know if Jay or Ye had personally sold their souls for fame . I just don’t believe they would or could come out and just tell him . Him being an artist, especially an artist that isn’t necessarily at the top of the food chain, doesn’t necessarily qualify him to speak conclusively on the matter . I can’t either. Nobody can but the people involved . Everything else is purely speculation , as it pertains to their guilt or innocence .

    Also, the illuminati thing is a separate argument in my eyes from selling your soul to dark forces for fame . One can be involved in one and not the other . Just clearin’ that up .

  18. mac DIESEL says:

    @ ExHortation

    DIAL 1-800-GET-HELP!!!! DUMMY!!!!

    DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!

  19. blaqscorpio says:

    But why would he put ALL that in one video?! Wouldn’t it be more sensible to put a couple. IT JUST SHOWS THA HE’S PLAYING OFF OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT HIM. HE’S LAUGHING AT Y’ALL!

  20. G-ses says:

    The image of a Sabbatical Goat (Baphomet), the five (or eight) pointed star or in fact any symbolical reference that fails to tow the ‘Biblical line’ has always left a dissenting group or individual open to final accusation of being a Witch, Pagan, Heretic or Demon Worshipper! To the freethinker then, Baphomet should be a symbol of rebellion against the status quo and the strict dogmatic rule demanded by Church Authority. To many occultists Baphomet is yet another depiction of the Horned God of all nature in the best tradition of the Greek deity Pan.

  21. blaqscorpio says:

    Yeah TY, just like they told U! Talib has an opinion JUST LIKE U!

  22. mikedreamsmusic says:

    Here’s a good read I wrote a while back about his lines in EMPIRE STATE OF MIND and different viewpoints.

    “A Dreamer’s Perspective: Jay-Z vs. Jesus – Written by Mike Dreams:

    http://www.refinedhype.com/index.php/hyped/entry/a-dreamers-perspective-jay-z-vs.-jesus-christ/

  23. Markoni says:

    This is all publicity, but too bad for Jay, EMINEM already did it. He was the first one to make a demonic persona (Slim Shady) and now Jay is following in his footsteps.

  24. Shawn says:

    I don’t know what’s sadder the fact Exhution wrote all that shit or belives it…SMH..
    Exhution is the newest winner of “This N!gga done lost mind” Award…

  25. Nathaniel says:

    @ty

    if they wouldn’t tell kweli, they wouldnt tell the adoring public either. what would be the point in dropping hints about something thats supposed to be top secret? lmao THINK people. imagine the logic in them….or Jay, blatantly putting it out there on a music video on some “hi guys, you’re right….see, i’m in a “secret” (key word: secret) society…and to make sure i air myself out, i’m going to give you all the signs and disturbing imagery you want, then you can salivate over it” ….c’mon sons.

    C’Mon Sons!

    and furthermore, i wonder why these white politicians and international bankers, presidents, etc never gave you clear signs about all these boogie man shit. hmmmm….oh, probably because its secret. yall niggas are bass ackwards.

    i can’t wait to hear what these cats have to say about these accusations. i’m on to the next one.

  26. blaqscorpio says:

    Exhortation, I’m sure all of us have put up the peace at some point in our lives so are we honorary masons? lol

    Oh and @ 1:56 when he flips the bird, it’s to Crystal you idiot, because they’re racist. I guess you weren’t listening to the song huh you were too busy studying, lol.

  27. Stay in your lane B.dot says:

    Wow…and now the writers of this site are insulting people and their comments, that’s f’d up. STFU and post videos B.dot, or surf youtube or whatever you do, stop editing and deleting people’s comments.

    There is SERIOUS evil imagery in this video. You can question the intentions but you can’t question the images, they are THERE for you to see, and they are associated with some very dark things. Why is this site calling people out for questioning them? This is not a random collection of images, we can all agree on that. And this site should allow people to debate WHY.

    in MY view, Is Jay-Z illumanati? Prob not, he’s an uneducated guy from Brooklyn who tapdances for his overlords. They give him a piece of cake and keep him happy cause he helps enslave youth. His depraved soul is happy with himself so he brags to us, and looks cool doing it. He’s not even stuntin’ on any “rap foes” or competitors in his rhymes anymore, he’s stuntin’ on the public!

    It’s in Rapradars best interest to protect jay-z’s image. YN is receiving a huge check from the man to write a biased book on his life. while i’m at it FUCK YN. Plus Lupe sonned you. And we know who the site is owned by.

    “ya’ll should be afraid of what I’m gonna do next”…? Ha.

    By the way, I’m a decade + long Jay-Z fan. this shit is disappointing.
    I’ll switch to Nahright for new videos and “news”.

  28. Ty says:

    @ Blaqscorpio

    Did you even read my post ???? Did I not state that we all are only speculating and that nobody knows what these dudes did or did not do except for themselves ?? What you said echoed what I posted and you’re acting like it’s schoolin’ me . Read with comprehension if you’re going to respond to me . I can listen to any opinion and weigh it fairly, just make sure you are doing the same.

    Also , I’m not even in the game and if I sold my soul, the last person I would tell would be Kweli . He seems to grounded and too conscious to be down for that . He’s the epitome of who you DON’T tell . Seems obvious to me .

  29. Nathaniel says:

    and how do yall niggas compare what jay did to following in eminems footsteps? that doesn’t even make sense. he didn’t need eminem to respond to all the rumor about him…eminem is completely separate from all that shit. lately, the media has been raving about jay and his soul selling, demon following, satan worshipping, white secret society membership.

    its simple. just like jay has always done, he responds to rappers, critics, media frenzy, etc etc etc through his music. before he’ll hop on the net or go off in an interview, or release a statement, he’ll rap about it or put it in the art. same shit, different toilet.

  30. BOSSupnugga says:

    WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT! SO WAT IF HE WORSHIPS THE FUKIN PUSSY ASS DEVIL SO WAT NIGGAZ BEEN WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL FOR EVER NOW BECUZ ITS JAYZ WE GIVE A FUK..YOUR LIFE AINT GON CHANGE U DUMB FUCKS! GET ON WIT UR LIFE GO TO DA STRIP CLUB OR GET SUM PUSSY U FUKS..JAYZ WILL CONTINUE TO FUK WIT YALL THE MORE U TALK BOUT THIS SHIT U IDIOTS! HES WORTH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS AND YALL WORRYING BUT IF THIS GUY LIKE JESUS OR THE DEVIL?????????? THINK ABOUT IT U DUMBASSES

  31. Nathaniel says:

    and illuminati, freemasonry, skull and bones whatever the fuck are just as racist and white-supremacy minded as european expansion was, as euro and ethnocentrism has always been, as the nazi party was, as colonialism all across the dark world and imperialism has ALWAYS been. the intention, since the making of the Western world (and further back than that) has always been to prop the white minority above the dark majority of the world politically and economically for complete domination. THAT is no secret.

    from the crusades, to the transatlantic slave trade (what we now know as the USA, south america and the carribbean), china and the opium wars, the colonization and crippling of the entire african continent (minus ethiopia), american slavery, apartheid, what happened in austrailia, new zealand, Vietnam….on and on and on. the war on terrorism in the middle east. its all the SAME. hell, the crack epedemic, the COINTELPRO (counter intelligence program of the FBI under Hoover) the dismantling….RIGHT HERE in america of the Urban League, SNCC, SCLC, black panther party, infiltration of the Nation of Islam, murder of Malcolm X, MLK, Medgar Evers…hurricane Katrina. gentrification. its all the same shit.

    fuck a secret society. it ain’t no secret. thats why niggas like talib kweli dont waste rhymes on that shit. they deal with uplifting, education, and encouraging our people. to the people that authored all that evil i mentioned above, Jay, Kanye, Rihanna ain’t shit but the spoils. and the more disunity we have in the black community, in hip hop over these malarkey, and even with africa and all the entities that TRY to liberate us from our psychological death, the more they sit back and rub their palms together. we are the spoils of plans waaaay above our heads.

    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places”
    – Ephesians 6:12.

    swallow slow. i gotta let this shit be. smh

  32. just my thoughts people says:

    And one more thing: Please believe that Jay-Z is ONLY bein used…he’s not IN like he’s thinks he’s IN…they sacrifice their own and he’s gonna be DONE very soon. Watch in the few years to come…dude only knows what they want him to know…n if you don’t know who “they” is, nevermind, it’s not for you

  33. Nathaniel says:

    @blaqscorpio

    thank you my nigga. co-sign. one of the few non-dellusional muthafuckas exercising their fingers in the keyboard.

  34. just my thoughts people says:

    “fuck a secret society. it ain’t no secret. thats why niggas like talib kweli dont waste rhymes on that shit. they deal with uplifting, education, and encouraging our people”

    I CAN APPRECIATE THIS STATEMENT!

  35. LULZ says:

    I just bought a T-shirt from Hot Topic did I just inadvertently fund the Illuminati?

  36. Interscope Employee says:

    Kweli is Illuminati too

  37. Ty says:

    @ Nathaniel

    We meet again . They HAVEN’T told us, just like they HAVEN’T told Kweli. He sees the images and thinks nothing of it just like the vast majority of viewers who aren’t in the industry . You ever heard of “hiding in plain sight” ? Why not be blatant ? Yall don’t believe what yall are seeing anyhow . He is bombarding the viewers with occult imagery and they think it’s a prank or find some other way to dismiss it .

    Also symbolism is used to pervade the subconscious mind until it is desensitized . Once it’s desensitized you can put skulls on shirts, Baphomet on shirts, call your group the 3 6 mafia, clown Jesus, Openly say you sold your soul to the devil (Kanye, Em, Pac, Snoop etc) etc etc and people will be so spiritually apathetic they won’t say a word . They will even deride those that do speak up . The groundwork has been laid for YEARS, the time for subversiveness is over . Why whisper when you can yell ?

    Like I said before you can sell your soul and NOT be illuminati . They two aren’t the same . I don’t know what anybody did or didn’t do, but I know these images are rooted in the occult . That’s not a question . If Jay is only using demonic images for publicity, isn’t that using them for fame in an indirect way ? Isn’t that using demonic imagery for fame ??? Yall need to c’mon son! For real . I can’t say he sold out, but yall sure can’t say he didn’t .

  38. TheTruendLivn says:

    Fear factor is what keeps the sheeplike worried about a music video…

    The selling of one’s soul is not a physical activity people…

    Spend that energy on looking out for the unfortunate…

    Speculation is the order of the the times, people on here making judgements of a book that is yet

    to come to fruition.. SMH

  39. TheTruendLivn says:

    And I’m yet to get an answer for the real question. What does the so-called illuminati or JayZ for that matter hope to attain or gain? What is their purpose?

    *won’t hold my breath*

  40. Blakout615 says:

    1st off,ima Jay fan but after reading this article it made me question some things…….
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1948
    Now I just wanna see sumbody dispute this rather than just callin it a “theory” or puttin it to the side as nothing. If u cant dispute it from top to bottom please dont reply lol. I dont wanna believe Jay is in that shit but DAMN look how the man who wrote it broke it down.

  41. Ty says:

    @ Nathaniel

    I largely agree with your last post, except for the fact that I feel you are being a little short sighted . Disunity IS the main objective . What better way to achieve it than from the INSIDE ? What better way to achieve it than by SPIRITUAL CORRUPTION ? Kill the spirit and everything else will follow downhill . We have a few of us, that for a few dollars more are willing to be a part of the overall downfall of our culture and people . We have some traitors . Look around you man . What has perpetuated more ignorance and more corruption than our own entertainment ??? Don’t you see that the grand plan is not by PEOPLE, but by evil itself ? ANY human or organization is just a pawn , not just black stars . Wake up and see the long term damage that has been and is being inflicted on our people through our own music and movies . Even the artists can’t stay out of jail now . When Jay says, “Just get violent…..” they’re obviously listening .

    This can’t be shrugged off . People that attack the spirit of a people are playing for keeps . Cause once the soul is corrupted or desensitized everything else will fall with it . How can yall not see that . Jay is not the head of it , but at the very least he’s helping perpetuate it , knowingly or not .
    Really think about it man . This is real talk., and for the record I’m only on this site cauze I LOVE the art form, but it’s being used for dark purposes a lot now, and it’s working . Look around yal !!!

  42. ExHortation says:

    @TheTruendLivn

    IN ORDER TO CONTROL YOUR MIND AND GET WANT THEY WANT

    HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE OLD SAYING

    RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER

    IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT THEN YOU A DUMB ASS DUMB ASS

  43. Nathaniel says:

    @ty

    see my second to last post* …thats all i got left for this shit. occult, schmult. niggas is caught up in boogie man stories. “imagery”. fuck all that…imagery? malcolm had all this shit sewn up in the 60′s. e.muhammad had it b4 that. brainwashing. hegemony. “come out of her my people”. Ephesians 6:12.

    hahaha, even Avatar told yall niggas the truth. and james cameron is a white dude. wash, rinse, repeat.

    good luck on the illuminati trail niggas. pack some garlic folks, and a crucifix…dracula is dining with the rockerfellers. <—sarcasm.

    anyway i'm out peace

  44. Blakout615 says:

    Yo did anybody see that video of kanye spittin that freestyle at cudi’s show and what he was saying??

  45. Nathaniel says:

    and @ty, agreed (on your last post) for the most part btw. i’m just drained with this shit, internet wise.

  46. TheTruendLivn says:

    IN ORDER TO CONTROL YOUR MIND AND GET WANT THEY WANT

    >> So in a nutshell, its all about money right? Ok, so every well-off individual subscribes to the illuminati now? There is no success unless you sell your soul?

    I am guessing you belong to a charismatic church and condone your pastor driving around in bentleys and maybachs.

    There isn’t one drop of truth in the theories you dudes are spewing, hardwork pays but the real deception is getting you to believe otherwise…

  47. flipz5 says:

    everyone is going nuts deciding wether or not he is.
    so does anyone care to explain at what point jay-z has done anything to brainwash, threat or show support for the enslavement of a people?

  48. TheTruendLivn says:

    I could respond to every single line being pointed out here but in turn that makes a simple music video a science project and then it comes off as forced.

    The truth is all these ppl accusing jayZ conveniently eliminate the countless times and instances that portray otherwise of their accusations but for w/e reason refuse to be subjective….

    Using your brains is out of fashion these days.SMH

  49. lup says:

    JIgga didnt direct the video you dumb fucks.

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