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Disrespectful views at Tha Kang, T.I.? Nah, Ms. Banks you're out of line. Yeah Harris' Aussie ain't that dope but neither are you. I just saw you at Coachella and I wasn't impressed. You got the look, the swag, the tough talk but where are the tunes? "212" is alright but that's where it stops. According to Jay-Z's old board rules: You have no right to diss Tip. Look in the mirror and ask yourself: How many classic albums have you created? Are you on anyone's top 10 MCs list? Do you have any hardware on your walls, ma? Cliff is right. Keep him out of the girlfight. You're heavy in these tweets, but I hope you're finding time to create music that backs up your buzz. Or you'll soon be begone like Kreayshawn. You young ladies today bore me. *Turns up Mia X CD* No Limit forever!
The best things in life are free, but hopping on Hov's press conference stage uninvited is gon cost cha. Whatcha did was wrong! ⎯B.DotFor nearly two hours, Wale discussed sports with Skip Bayless on ESPN’s 1st and 10. In the final segment, he and Skip debate whether Jay-Z’s the greatest rapper of all time. Skip argued that Hov lacked stage presence and a good voice. Hov has admitted to the latter in previous interviews. Let the great debates begin.
I agree with what you have been saying BDot, including the 2Pac catalogue comment…with this last album i think he caught Pac..and live show is soso but those hits…and Rakim kinda has been dropping after being number 1 alltime for years because while he can still make a nice verse and songwriting has really dropped off…Skip sounded suprisingly well-versed cept Weezy and Em arent top five to me..Em top ten..Wayne top 20…but they still can climb..
haha Skip went in on that nigga he OVERRATED
Why is anyone surprised in Wale’s opinions? Who does he work for? haha his opinions are practically under contract.
That being said, you can’t say Jay-Z is a better rapper than Biggie because he outlived him…kinda seems like unfair criteria.
If you are talking about best RAPPER, then Biggie, Em, Big L, and maybe even Andre 3000 could out-rap Jay. But honestly, it doesn’t really matter; they are all great…should enjoy them each in their own right.
All am saying is that really got to be really a hater to be siding with a 70 year old white guy casting judgement on who is hot from who is not in hip hop. And the dude said Lil Wayne????? of all persons Lil Wayne and you guys siding with him. Obviously he would say Eminem… that’s a given like he’d say Elvis and not Lil Richard. I’m just saying man.
I think dudes that are around Jay feel obligated to give him his props. I don’t how people can feel like he’s the GOAT though, where he no longer raps like he cares. I gotta agree 50 though, the big homey hasn’t competed since Nas ethered him.
For popular hip hop artistes, winning battles is usually an impetus to go on to having very successful careers ie LL Cool J. Who went on to have an extremely successful career after the Nas Jay-z battle?
wale is wack. you gotta be a corn to feel wales music and movement. jalen rose looks like he wanted to punch that midget out, jalen knows more about hip hop than wale. wale dropped with a jay-z co-sign and lady gaga on his first single and he still flopped. he talking like tebows a bust, when wale already a PROVEN BUST. career over.
this is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. Music is a reflection of the artist. Jay is so past everybody that he cant rap like he’s HUNGRY in his voice, the fucks he have to be hungry for? He is motivated, motivated to be an icon, motivated to be Michael jackson of hip hop, but hes not “hungry” like hes on the bottom starving for money. He is still mad lyrical you dont need to use words with 5 or more syllables to be lyrical, its about the statements made. Everyone’s seen his shows with a live band, I’ve had the honour of attending a show and I was all the way up top but I felt like Wale said, like Jay was talking to me. Jay has never had a whack album unlike everybody else mentioned. DONT EVEN SAY 50, 50 IS NOTHING COMPARED TO JAY MUSICALLY YOU DUMB FUCKS.. 50 IS THE SAME AS DIDDY. AS SOON AS THE VIDEO STARTED I KNEW HED SAY EMINEM.. EVERY WHITE GUY THAT DOESNT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HIP HOP SAYS EMINEM. Eminem is top 5 no fucking doubt but i hate that ppl that dont know hip hop say the same ppl all the time, tupac,snoop,eminem,lilwayne. JAY IS G.O.A.T. don’t hate on mac diesels opinion cus at the end of the day your favorite rapper respects jay like no other.
@3Stacks So you wanna hear a nigga rap about jewelry, fancy cars, money, buyin house’s, living rich (things you aint got)….then to hear a nigga talk about real shit thats goin on in the ghetto, the government, songs to help the community and not hurt it? …..To all the niggaz saying Jay-Z got 11 number #1 albums he the best ….. All his 14/15 albums he still havent sold more then Eminem 4/5 albums so what that tell you?? … then Eminem is better if Eminem and Jay-Z come out wit a album on the same day who gonna sell more? and dont say Eminem gonna sell more because he white if you the best you gotta do the best numbers …. And if rap is all about numbers, money, who sell the most then 50 Cent and Diddy should be in the top five rappers all time ….Jay-Z 11 number 1 albums but only 1 number 1 song?? and that was because Alicia Keys made dat song hot
@B.Doct
u wanna talk longetivity ? Ll Cool J 25 years since 85 been putting out Plat, 2x Plat, Gold albums.
and he is the blurprint to those rappers who make girly songs to sell records.
B@ Doct
U wanna talk catalog ? ur boy 50 cent soon>>>>>jay-z
@ sixo
Wale was just on TV talking, he also making money, touring, probably driving a decent car, probably looking at real estate. What the fuck have you been up to?
I’m just saying man is full time we as black people quit hating on another black man so much. How about yow Wale, you coulda done better with them singles selection. Nobody can say Wale is a wack rapper. The mere fact his album didn’t sell millions must be attributed to something else.
b.dot doesnt know anything about hip hop. corny ass journalist who thinks he holds the flag for the culture when he really just walks and spits on it. rakim is still nicer than jay-z today right now. so is kool g rap. jay z is a great talent but a greater business man. rakims last album lyrically shits on blueprint 3, anyone who disagrees is a toy.
@ B Dot– Lets see…NAS won a straight up one on one battle with Jay-Z (Nas didnt even start it with Jay), Jay-Z admitted on the song “Blueprint 2″ that he lost. Jay-Z said in the VH1 Ultimate Albums Show for Resonable Doubt that his voice sucks and Nas had a better voice. Last still bit Nas rhymes (of course Biggie too) while him and Nas was beefing. Jay is in my top 3, but please wake up and give credit when credit is due. #1 Nasir Jones G.O.A.T.
u wanna talk longetivity ? Ll Cool J 25 years since 85 been putting out Plat, 2x Plat, Gold albums.
and he is the blurprint to those rappers who make girly songs to sell records.
U wanna talk catalog ? ur boy 50 cent soon>>>>>jay-z
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LL hasn’t made a decent album or impactful record since “luv u better”…and that was in 2002. 50′s got a strong catalogue, probably as good as jay’s. But overall, i think Jay’s a better lyricist.
@7v5a7
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i fucks with nas hard. But he’s slowly tarnishing his catalogue. the last 3 albums have been real downers.
B.Dot is Obama’s favorite hip hop blogger.
@ So icy boi
Just becoz Tupac rapped about “real” shit doesn’t necessarily mean we gottta exaggerate his mic skills.The two ain’t always related though i appreciate real message i’m also a fan of pure lyrical skill
THESE NIGGAS SAID “LIL WAYNE” LMAOOOO FUCK OUTTA HERE
TUPAC IS THE GOAT!!!!!
BEST ALIVE ARE ; EMINEM AND JAY (TIE) AND THEN NAS
@ B. Dot when these niggas gonna learn that he aint 50. N been shot a bunch of times, or jump n dress crazy on stage like busta rhymes, or make up shit like Nas lines, or like em n sniff coke lines, but Jigga talk the truth wen u bust down Jay-z lines. All ya’ll niggas is fish. N don’t say common cuz that aint common sense. N Jay don’t shake it like a poloroid or rock a perm.
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I went 2 see Jay Z in Scotland and he couldn’t get the crowd to 2step, he asked and know 1 moved..
That dude is right he is mad overrated, he doesn’t say anything except how fly he his
@B.Dot
LL hasn’t made a decent album or impactful record since “luv u better”
^^^Well jay-z last great album was “blakc album” and that was in 03, his last 3 ain’t shit, BP3 was a good compilation album.
…and that was in 2002. 50’s got a strong catalogue, probably as good as jay’s. But overall, i think Jay’s a better lyricist.
^^ Give 50 3 more albums(Solo), n you n I both can agree 50>>>>jay. Lyrically ? those kids might not know but Fif on POTD & Guess Who’s back WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
same argument diff day. Jay is the best in my eyes.
Dont bring 50 in this conversation. His catalog isnt even close. Jay got more Classic albums then 50 has albums. You telling me Candy Shop is hot or Amusement Park? Please Jay was hot when 50 started and he gonna be hot when 50 is finished which might have already happened in my eyes. Only Nas to me can be compared outta dudes still alive he got 9 albums under the belt and Em coming close behind. 50 was running off momentum and it has run out he got nothing to rap about oh i forgot Baby by me and Do you think about me. These are all wack bitch songs 50 puts out to try and stay at the top. He aint never been in anybody top 5.
Wale is bringing up points that’s irrelevant to the argument about on-stage performance, once you do that, you already lost.
Greatest lyricist, writer in hip hop of all time? Uh no. Is he dope? Yes. But cmon man it’s all about personal taste that’s what music is all about it’s about how you connect to an artist
@MP
U’re right about that plus I don’t see what hanging out with Obama and Oprah has to do with music see that’s the problem a lot of times with Jigga cats use his endeavors OUTSIDE of the music to justify him being “the best” (IE Rocawear, Roc Nation, 40/40 club, Beyonce ect…)
@MP
U’re right about that plus I don’t see what hanging out with Obama and Oprah has to do with music see that’s the problem a lot of times with Jigga cats use his endeavors OUTSIDE of the music to justify him being “the best” (IE Rocawear, Roc Nation, 40/40 club, Beyonce ect…)
@106
fuckboy why are u naming only songs for ladies by 50 ?, I can name 100 songs for ladies from jay. LOL , stupid madafucka.
50 >>>>>Jay , jay- has 11 solo albums, 50 has 4 solo album. 3 more albums from
50, than I can proudly say 50 >>>>>>> Jay, and I’ll never put any rapper above 2Pac, cause
ain’t nobody ever or will make such strong songs like 2Pac Did.
Skip is right…
“The notion that 2Pac was the be all and end all of greatness is far-fetched.The man is a legend no doubt but more so for his personality than his skills on the mic.”- 3 stacks
thank you bro…well said….Ive been saying this for years
@ZIGGY,
First off, kudos for putting ziggy’s dick in your mouth so quick and using his name.
Second. There is NOTHING “unfair” about saying jay is better than B.I.G. because the nigga died. Tragic. Of course. But if you’re dead, you’re dead. Period, point, blank.
What is “unfair” as you so eloquently put it, is trying to compare what someone MIGHT HAVE done, to what someone ACTUALLY did.
Earl the Manigoat is better than Michael Jordan because he, MIGHT have done more if it wasn’t for everything that happened to him. LMFAO. You see how stupid that sounds?
*Earl “the goat” manigoat
ALSO to the idiots arguing that eminem is better because his FEW albums have sold more than jayzs LOT of albums its simple:
Eminem COULD NOT produce THE QUANTITY OF MUSIC AS JAY-Z AND MAINTAIN QUALITY THE WAY JAY-Z HAS!! PERIOD POINT BLANK! HE DOESN’T DO IT, BECAUSE HE CAN’T. SO JAY-Z IS BETTER IN THAT ASPECT BECAUSE HE HAS MORE STAMINA AND LONGEVITY.
ALSO: EMINEM SOLD MOST OF HIS MUSIC BECAUSE HE WAS THE FIRST GREAT WHITE RAPPER YOU FUCKING MORONS.!!! WHO BUYS ALBUMS????….WHIIIIIIIITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WENT ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NUTS WHEN EMINEM ARRIVED SO HE WOULD HAVE SOLD THE SAME AMOUNT OF ALBUMS IF HE HAD A THIRD OF THE TALENT HE DOES. TALENT DOESN’T SELL HIS ALBUMS TO THAT LEVEL. THE FACT THAT HE IS WHITE (AND THE FIRST TO DO IT BECAUSE OF COURSE VANILLA ICE DOESN’T COUNT LOL) IS HIS CASH COW. WHITE WOMEN LOVE THE WHITE CRAZY RAPPER TROUBLED IMAGE CUZ THEY WANT TO F**K HIM.
AND WHITE GUYS LOVE THE WHITE CRAZY RAPPER TROUBLED IMAGE COOL WITH THE COOLEST BLACK PEOPLE IMAGE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE HIM. SO NO COMPARISON.
HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE WORLD ON THE SAME LEVEL EMOTIONALLY, INSPIRATIONALLY, OR MOTIVATIONALLY (WORD I MADE UP LOL) LIKE JAY-Z.
THE G.O.A.T.
HONESTLY. I DONT EVEN RESPECT THE HIPHOP OPINION OF PEOPLE WHO ARGUE THAT JAY ISNT THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE WHEN ITS SO F****N OBVIOUS.
BIGGIE, NAS, KRS, SCARFACE, ICE CUBE, LL COOL J, BIG DADDY KANE……………..JAY-Z IS GOOD, BUT ITS ALL FANTASY, LIKE REALLY IF YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY YOU ARE CELEBRATING HIS SUCCESS WITH YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. HIS BEATS ARE AWSOME HANDS DOWN, SO WHEN YOU IN A PARTY WE ALL JAM TO IT (EVEN JIM JONES), THE MUSIC HE MAKES, MAKE US FEEL GREAT, THAT DONT MAKE YOU THE GREATEST RAPPER. JAY-Z DOSEN’T CHANGE HIS CONTENT AND SUBJECT MATTER IN HIS LYRICS AND WHEN HE DOES HE SPITTIN BIGGIE’S RHYMES. HIS LIFESTYLE IS ENTERTAINING CAUSE WE ALL STRIVE TO BE SUCESSFUL SO WE DREAM WITH HIS MUSIC. THAT DOESN’T MAKE HIM THE GREATEST EVER, IT JUST MAKES HIM GREAT.
Damn yaboitone I bet ur keyboard is fucking sore
Snoop Dogg is the Greatest Rapper of All Time: Almost 20years in the game, over 50 million records sold: Singularly the most relevant cultural icon hip hop has ever produced! Lyrically crushes ur fav MC if he wants to……….4k Jay Z Knowles!
Fuck tha obvious debate we ALWAYS have. Anybody notice how that nigga Skip gave Wale dap?!?!?!? Lol! That shit was official! I think he knows a lil somethin about hip hop. :-)
@ AshesToAshes you jackass. I named those songs because people are comparing 50to jay because he sold records not because of skill. He got spotlight from GRODT and didnt want that light to turn off so he been making those bitch ass songs to stay relevant. I wish you would point out 100 jay songz for the ladies cause he never tried to be that. He couldn’t pull that off anyway. Yall get your facts straight 50 could make 10 more albums he will never be in the same class as Jay. I wil repeat this 50 not in anybody with sense top 5. If he in yours that will explain your dumbass comment.
@3Stacks whats the definition of lyrical skills ??? do u just gotta rhyme over a hot beat ? ….Because then Gucci Mane should be considered as a top rapper
Jay-Z lyrics boring … and of course he surpassed Big and Pac .. you know why ?? Because they DEAD dumb azzes …. they bouth only had like 6 years in the rap game … and Jay-Z got like 20 with his old ass … if Jay-Z would of died around the same time pac and biggie died wouldnt nobody remember him
This debate is a popularity contest (fif, jay, nas,em)DMX can hold is own against any and all mentioned. He’s a real dude like Pac. What u call a true artist, from the soul.
@yaboitone
HONESTLY. I DONT EVEN RESPECT THE HIPHOP OPINION OF PEOPLE WHO ARGUE THAT JAY ISNT THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE WHEN ITS SO F****N OBVIOUS.
ever stopped to look at Jay-Z’s portfolio ?
That guy dosent have ONE original concept single… Yes he’s the most consistent, had the most number one albums … ? but have you heard BP3 ? that shit had 2 maybe 3 rap records.. the rest of it was all about rnb hooks and featurings.
and since when dose quantity matter like that … that like sayin Rick Ross sold more albums than 50 cent because he had more number one solo albums … smh
yall niggas dumb.
1. who the fuck is skip? you work for espn and you’re an old white guy. this is black music and culture, you don’t get to decide OUR greats. again, OUR greats. wale played himself for arguing with that old ass white dude.
2. i agree with yaboitone. damn near word for word (especially on the eminem breakdown), so i won’t repeat what my nigga said.
3. i’m late as hell on this topic.
4. just because jalen rose spouted off a list of dope emcees doesn’t mean the nigga gets the “respectable opinion” award. BUT since he mention 3 stacks i fucks with the nigga.
5. kill that 4 element shit. hip hop evolved past that shit decades ago. i love graffiti art, and breaking too…but that shit seeped so far out in the burbs, most cats doing that shit are either on wack ass america’s best dance group, in japan, or in some wild style commercialized suburban area. and until we stop calling niggas that spin records and THATS IT DJs…until i see some DJ Jazzy Jeffs around here, kill that shit too. these hip hop purists need to get their heads out of the bronx. that shit is good for history, but in 2010, its over with. sorry.
its funny that niggas admit only white people buy music and they feel as we are the only ones who should control who is the best in this game
I mean would you care about someones opinion if they were stealing from you I buy music that is hot out of respect and Im blacc
shit if white people opinion dont matter then maybe they should stop buying Jay’s album and then we will see how you niggas see Jay Then if white people didnt support anybody but eminem true story Jay would be selling like 350 K
Niggas with no logic @yaboitone and anybody who agrees with that argument you say white people make the sales but they have no say in this music yet you use album sales has part of your argument if this is true why isnt Paul Wall lil Wyte and Bubba Sparxx going 2x platinum why isnt Pitbull going 5x platinum he one of the only Latinos in the Game Why isnt Jin Going 20 X ww platinum he one of the only Asians In the game and its a grip of them motherfuccas around this world
if you feel white people are the only buying music you shouldnt discredit their opinion at least they are supporting “our supposed culture” nigga if this culture belongs to us why dont try and buy soem music and supprting it Cuz
If white people were Only Buying Ems album then Jay Wayne TI them niggas wouldnt even be releasing albums they would even be signed becuz they wouldnt be selling shit becuz Yall niggas admit from stealing and abusing our culture
@will
“nigga if this culture belongs to us why dont try and buy soem music and supprting it Cuz”
^that’s a discusson that goes a lot deeper than what we’re talking about. at least the implications of it. but i see what you’re getting at. hell…most yall niggas run around here saying fuck jay-z like he ain’t one of our own. holding eminem down. i see it all over the net. and he’s dope as fuck, don’t get me wrong. but i choose us FIRST. thats just me…its on some unity shit, primarily, with other things i wont get into considered as well.
@will
1. white people are NOT the only ones buying hip hop albums. i don’t know where niggas get these erroneous statements from. black people make up less than 20% of this nation. white people are still the vast majority. naturally, they out buy us when it comes to rap music. we buy, they buy. unless somebody can show me reasonable proof that we steal music more than they do, there’s no need to throw that statement around but they steal too, just like we do.
2. regardless of who is buying music more or less, this hip hop music and the culture define the black experience. the demographic it is written to and about is black. all day long. we relate, they fantasize from afar.
so when we bring eminem to the discussion, he was white, rapping about what its like to be white and fucked up in america. niggas don’t give a fuck about eminem like that. straight up. not just because he’s white, but because he isn’t talking to us or about us. EVERYTHING in this country starts with the poor (and mainly black) and eventually gets swallowed up by the white masses. that’s history.
so no, a white man can’t come in and tell US who makes the best music catered to us. no more than they can sit down and argue whether malcolm x or martin king spoke on the behalf of black people the best. yall niggas forget why we even claim this hip hop shit. it ain’t just beats and rhymes. it was born out of the black youth REJECTED and ignored by this white american dynastic government and the people who it seeks to support.
and lastly, eminem has stated on several occasions that his whiteness and its marketability is directly related to his sales and his visibility. he knows, so disagree with him too will.
One word! CORMEGA!!! Jay is a fuckn bitch ass nigga. Mega would murda that fagget on the mic. Ya I knw he hasn’t sold nearly as much albums as Jay but real niggaz knw what time it is. Jay is nothn but a commercial mc now. That street shit died for him after his first album. now he is a fuckn clown ass rapper. Listen to The Realness album. That’s hip hop, faggets!!
Anyone that listens to Jay is a fuckn fagget! I can name ten guys better than him all time. Cormega,Big L, Rakim, Prodigy, Nas, raekwon, gza, inspectah deck, Krs one, biggie (who I also think is overrated but better than Jay), nature, big noyd, the beedie eyed bucks. Shot from blackmoon, Ruc, and rock from heltah skeltah, AZ, lord finess, Havoc, capone, and noreaga, 50 is wack but he better, ghostface, big daddy kane, all the niggaz in D.I.T.C. Allthese niggaz are better then that fagget Jay Z
U clowns knw nothn about real hiphop.
Anyone saying 50 is better than Jay or Nas needs to find their damn selves.
Some of the names mentioned in this thread are fucking ridiculous. Capone and fucking Nore FFS?!!??!?! Who the FUCK bumping Cormega other than this nigga uptop?!
Ac@pella! says:
Saturday, March 06 2010 at 1:39 AM EST
Fuck tha obvious debate we ALWAYS have. Anybody notice how that nigga Skip gave Wale dap?!?!?!? Lol! That shit was official! I think he knows a lil somethin about hip hop.
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LOL! Good spot. The nigga Skip is an OG, lol.