Kanye Mad At 40 For “Borrowing” Sound

Thursday, August 19 2010 1:37 PM EST | Posted by: B.Dot | Posted in: Blog, Newsstand Stan

Rae and Ghost aren’t the only ones that don’t like a shark biter. Drake’s producer, Noah “40″ Shebib tells VIBE in the Aug/Sept. issue that Ye cursed him out for “borrowing” his sound.

“I can’t even be mad at him,” says 40 [short for working 40 Days and 40 Nights…Noah’s ark, get it?) “Because the last CD I listened to before I started working on So Far Gone was 808s & Heartbreak.”

Ah, that explains it. But Yeezy doesn’t have to worry about 40 stepping on his toes. He’s only interested in working with two artists.

“At this point in time, the only rappers I have any interest in working with outside of Drake are Wayne and Jay,” 40 says flatly. “I think Drake has been so instrumental in creating that sound that I have a commitment to him. If he doesn’t want me to give it away, I won’t.”

Comments (113)

  1. Can says:

    I mean, Kanye’s production on 808′s was pretty much a genre all its own (and also he’s just, in general, been the most pervasively influential rapper/producer of the past decade.) so it’s only natural that people would splinter off from it. I really enjoy 40′s production. So yeah, Kanye made it, 40 took it, Kanye cursed him out for it, and now everyone can keep making fantastic music.

  2. Nkozi says:

    That’s it?!? No quotes, no nothing??? C’mon son!

  3. yepANDnope says:

    meh. Imitation is the best form of flattery or something like that?

    Kanye’s ego getting in his own way again.

    How can you get mad at someone for “borrowing” when the MAJOR PART of your career is based on sampling and borrowing? Everyone remember the “Cheers to the Roc” joint at the end of “College Dropout” where he blatantly describes how his whole “borrowing” from Dre was INSTRUMENTAL (see what i did there) in sparking his success.

    I love you Ye, but PLEEEAASE pull your head out of your own ass, before you make a mistake that no one will be able to forgive you for.

  4. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    wow… Kanye doesn’t want a nigga stealing his spotlight.. hmmmm.. VMAs ring a bell???? get the fuck outta here nigga!!!!!

    Everybody borrow from everybody.. damn Ye’s signature sound comes from using soul samples.. for the dummies to follow..

    SAMPLES=OTHER PEOPLES MUSIC so is he STEALING THEIR SOUND too???

    NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES I GUESS.. lol

  5. Big moe says:

    How kanye flash on dude when he admitted tryna jack eminems drums n snares bk n the day dude a cry baby

  6. HORUS says:

    40 IS JACKING YE… DRAKE IS JACKING YEEZY + WEEZY… WHAT A BUNCH OF BIIIIIIIIIITCHES !!!!

    DRAKE’S MOTHER IS A TV PRODUCER, THAT’S THE REASON WHY EVEN IF HE IS WACK AC
    T ACTING HE PLAYED THE WHEELCHAIRMAN IN THIS FAG TV SHOW!!!!

    DRAKE’S FATHER USED TO WORK IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. HE WAS JERRY LEWIS’ DRUMMER THAT’S THE REASON WHY EVEN IF THIS BUM IS WACK AT BOTH SINGING & RAPPING, HE GOT A RECORD DEAL!!!

    HE IS USING HIS PARENTS’ CONNECTS IN ORDER TO BRAINWASH PEOPLE WITH HIS WACKNESS. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS FUCKERY.

    THANK GOD OVER FLOPPED, MISS ME IS FLOPPING, FANCY IS FAILING & TML FLOPPED & DIDN’T EVEN WENT GOLD THE FIRST WEEK.

    DRAKE IS FAIL, DRAKE IS A MESS, DRAKE IS A BIIIIIIIIITCH.

    ★★★

    HORUS IS THE TRUTH✔

  7. Kidd Rapp says:

    lol @HORUS for being a closet Drake fan… That nigga is the biggest stan on this board.. Who the fuck else knows all these facts lmao

    faggot groupie

  8. c.o. says:

    Fuck u horus..ur just jealous

  9. Nathaniel says:

    “yo on the real… i don’t want no nigga soundin like me, on no record. i’ma approach a nigga” – ghost face

    “nigga be bitin maaad styles” – raekwon

    Shark Niggas.

  10. Donn says:

    Lol ego? All the ppl on this site who leave a comment like their opinion is the only fact. Gtfoh Lmao. And say wat you want but your album collection is not complete unless you have a Kanye song or beat. FACT

  11. QuantumMusik says:

    Funny how Kanye Says he’s biting sounds.. when the TR-808 (The Instrument They Use to make those type of techno-fuse-hip-hop beats), Was originally made in the 80′s and used in Fuse-Pop-Songs back then.

  12. Maseo says:

    KanYe >

    let the man do what he wants he deserves it

  13. RyanM15 says:

    Horus is a bitch lol, yall know the dude has a Drake shrine in his room and wacks off to him every night.

    Pussy bitch

  14. Yerp! says:

    Em fell off after his first 3 Albums. That brotha is corn Pops.
    Jay last true record was American Gangster. BP3 had 5 joints the rest TRASH.
    Kanye is the most consistent artist EVER.
    College Dropout=Classic, Late Registration=Historicly Classic!, Graduation=Commercially Classic!, 808s&Heartbreak=Genre Defying Creationally Classic!.
    That’s why my top 5:
    Pac
    Jay
    Kanye
    BIG
    Em

  15. Maseo says:

    if you didnt think so far gone was jocking 808s & hb

    your delusional period

  16. NICKEY BLACK says:

    Im thru with Kanye

  17. slimshady says:

    @ YERP, CO SIGN.

  18. HORUS says:

    Kidd Rappc.o.RyanM15?

    A BUNCH OF BIIIIIIIIITCHASS SENSITIVE SHRAKE’S GROUPIES.

    DRAKE IS STILL THE DEFINITION OF WACKNESS.

    DRAKE IS FAIL, DRAKE IS A MESS, DRAKE IS A BIIIIIIIIITCH.

    ★★★

    HORUS IS THE TRUTH✔

  19. Yerp! says:

    There’s. Certain magic about Kanyes TRUE production I.e. Diamonds, Through the wire, gone, Overnight celebrity, stronger, good life, say you will etc. It’s too magnificent to defy. So ofcourse you’d want to imitate it. Thing is that’s why kanyes upset, you can’t! Ittl just hurt you in the long run. Plus he feels alil
    threatened cuz he doesn’t know if he still has that anymore. I mean Power is dope but let’s be real it was an S1 beat that kanye flipped. The chants and guitar make
    that track.

  20. itsawrizzie2010sheeeeiiiitt says:

    why not curse drake out instead of 40 kanye where ya balls at

  21. CantGetRight says:

    Last week,kanye called Swizz the best rap producer of all time after listening to Drake’s “fancy”. Im guessing kanye made that statement after listening to the 2nd part of that beat(the best part of that weak song) and he thought Swizz made the whole track. But 40 actually did that 2nd part. So shouldnt Ye be giving some type of props to this 40 dude now? lol

  22. flawda says:

    LOL @ imitation being the best form of flatery

    Biting is forbidden in hiphop, cues Missy and Timbalands “beat biters”. Have some damn creativity and stop jacking the next man shit, and mf wonder why everything on the radio and tv sound alike.

  23. HOOD says:

    tell Kanye to go FUCK HIMSELF….. FUCK 40 TOO FAGGOT ASS NIGGAZ

  24. RyanM15 says:

    Ayo Horus i know you wacking off to him now bruhbruh

  25. Can says:

    uh, sampling a record is not the same thing as stealing other people’s music. people who sample have distinct styles- like Dilla flipping a sample and Kanye flipping a sample are completely different. it’s still its own distinct form of expression, kanye used those samples to make his own style. 40 copping ye’s (non-soul loop) production style is different from ye using some drums to make a new style.

    but again, who cares. kanye checked him, he didn’t have someone beat him up or call him out in public. it was a private discussion (which we do;ot even really know the contents of) 40 decided to make public.

  26. flawda says:

    Kanye is a great artist too, but he is a average ass rapper. Yall should be ashamed of yourself to put him in the same category as legit mcs, who can outrhyme and outflow is ass 99 out of a 100 times.

  27. Yerp! says:

    @cantgetitright
    all 40 did was crossfade the beat. Everything but the drums had there ‘Highs’ and ‘Mids’ lowered. Producers know what I’m talking about. 40s signature is to just mute the beat and add reverb and echo his shit is saucy. Boi 1nda is the true beat maker. 40 will need to reinvent himself soon or he will saturate his sound. Although it worked for Swizzy cuz all his early shit sounded the same lol.

  28. killacrack says:

    Rap is based off of stealing, How can you get mad for doing what HIP HOP is based off of. Sorry i do agree that KAYNE is GREAT — but 808 didnt even listen to it. Why would i support a R&B album with a nigg@ that cant sing. SORRY but for real Dont pass off a R&B album and say its rap to me. Kayne i once thought of as a rap God but that POWER joint & the track with OFFICER ROSS LIVE FAST DIE YOUNG — WERE GARBAGE!

  29. RyanM15 says:

    I want this full version of All of the lights Kayne and Drake son

  30. killacrack says:

    Drake stole BIG SEANS FLOW & 40 stole KANYE beat style put it together you have a industry made rapper with the system behind HIM.

  31. PTownWah says:

    40 & Boi1da are overrated!!!!

    Jake One >>>
    Frank Dukes >>>
    Justice League >>>
    Sean C & LV >>>

  32. yay says:

    WHO CARES?!??! people dying from cancer and poverty right now and we arguing over beats you people are fuckin stupid

  33. mmkayy says:

    was this new n improved kanye or the one w/ ego?

  34. Yerp! says:

    @flawda
    shut yo a** up^ lol. In this day in age it’s not about OUTFLOWING or OUTRHYMING it’s the subject matter the lyrics the EMOTION.
    If that was the case lil Wayne would be on the same level as Big Daddy Kane and Rakim cuz he can flow and rhyme with the best of em but HE AINT TALKIN BOUT SHIT. And they never progress. Kanye has taken the game to a whole mother level. Everytime he has dropped a record last decade THE WHOLE MUSIC INDUSTRY SHIFTED to HIS style.
    College Dropout era-2 years NOTHIN BUT SOUL production and records from every artist
    Late Registration era-Same Except on steroids with orchestral and modern implementations
    Graduation era- 3 years of ELECTRONICA And 80s influences with a progressive more custom sound
    808s&Heartbreak era- overlapped by Graduation era but it ALSO CREATED A GENRE in ITSELF!

    Production and Lyrically Together Kanye is unmatched when it comes to just Music.
    Dude is THE true definition of an artist.
    Style, Production, Lyrics, Emotion, Influence. Dude is incredible.

  35. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    yerp is a bitch… damn you dick ridin Kanye more then Amber.. how you figure that LR was historically important?? nigga you drinkin the kool aid big time.. and Graduation was trash.. there was more filler on that album then you get in a twinkie nigga.. and the nigga used auto tune.. which T-PAIN popularized again.. for the whole album biting off that niggaz plate.

    Yall are to damn emotional about this dude you can’t see straight.. he a dope producer but thats it.. he ain’t Moses.. nigga ain’t even Dre.. Be real.. he’s albums have consistently went down.. College Dropout was the illest.. the next.. alittle less.. the next.. even worse.. on.. on..

    Don’t care what any of yall niggas say.. “POWER”.. is trash.. yall niggas in love with the NIGGA.. and not the MUSIC… nigga could make a beat using a kazoo and cowbell and yall niggas would be claiming it was the best beat ever.

    Watch this album gonna come out and be sub par.. and yall niggas still gonna nut looking through the liner notes..

  36. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    think EM won the Oscar for original score for a song he wrote and produced.. “lose yourself”..

    where Ye’s at??

    lol

  37. DARKAQUA says:

    I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YEEZY DOES OR SAYS…JUST GIVE ME THA MUSIC!!! ;-)

  38. flawda says:

    @ YERP

    Nigga, are you a women or a faggot, wtf are you talking about emotion, this shit aint r and b dude. This is hiphop, and mcing, it’s about saying the flyest shit in the most lyrical way, i’m sick of you neo soul niggas and your soft ass emo ways.

    It’s about balance, it’s about flow, lyrics, emotions, delivery, etc. You can’t overlook all aspects, your lyrics are your weapons as a mc. If you aint a dope lyricist, you pretty much is a spoken word artist to me. Go do Def Poetry Jam or some shit.

    Kanye wouldn’t even be able to sit at the same table as Nas,Jay,Pun,Pac,Andre 3000,etc. He aint a mc, Kanye is more of a artist than a mc.

  39. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    THINGS THAT ARE AS OVERRATED AS KANYE’S MUSIC

    1) NICKI MINAJ’S LOOKS

    2) SHYNE’S PLACE IN HIP-HOP

    3) EVERYTHING RICK ROSS DOES

    4) BUN B’S LYRICAL ABILITY

    5) WYCLEF’S CHANCES OF BEIN PRESIDENT

    6) LOTTERY TICKET

    7) DRAKE’S FLOW

    8) DRAKES SINGING

    9) DRAKE’S BLACKBERRY FREESTYLES.. lol

    10) MEMPHIS BLEEKS CHANCES OF GETTIN OFF JAYS DICK

    11) WALE’S ABILITY TO SELL A 100K ALBUMS “TOTAL”

    12) WAYNE’S ABILITY TO BE TALL ENOUGH TO RIDE THE TEACUPS AT DISNEY WORLD

    13) “POWER”

    14) “POWER” VIDEO

    15) RAPRADAR STAFF

    16) YN’S OPINION

    17) OBIE TRICE’S CAREER WITHOUT EM

    18) IPHONE 4

    19) ANY MUSIC THAT PILL RECORDS

    20) GOOD MUSIC’S ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD MUSIC

  40. Black Shady says:

    LMAO @ Crack ya girls jawbone.

  41. slimshady says:

    @ YERP CO-SIGN.

    Flawda you playing yourself fool. I fail to understand why niggas slot 3 stacks amongst rappers like pac, nas and big. He’s good not that great. @ Crack yo girls (?), yeah, according to you graduation was “trash”, despite being critically acclaimed, best rap album, album of the year etc etc, it was “trash”, GTFO here nigga. Graduation ain’t his best work but it was damn near perfect. Starting with the artwork onto the music, whatever Ye does is always unconventional, every nigga hop on his dick for a beat or a feature. Fact.

  42. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    21) GUCCI MANE’S CAREER.. BBBUURRR

    22) LEBRON JAMES IN THE NBA

    23) FAT JOE’S ABILITY TO SELL MORE ALBUMS THEN CALORIES HE EATS IN A DAY

    24) WACKA FLOCKAS ABILITY TO WRITE ONE COHERENT VERSE

    25) EVERYTHING RAEKWON HAS RECORDED SINCE THE ORIGINAL OBFCL

    26) SWIZZ BEATZ.. BEATS

    27) YELAWOLF…

    28) 5 MICS IN THE SOURCE

    29) ANYTHING THAT BABY SAYS

    30) RAP RADAR COMMENTERS OPINIONS..

  43. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    31) ^ THAT GUY PRETENDING TO BE SHADY

    32) GROWN MEN WHO USING OTHER “GROWN” MEN’S NAMES.

  44. Word says:

    Oh my God, some of you Kanye fans are just as disgusting as that white boys fans…is it okay to stan for Kanye but when you stan for Jay or Em its bad? Donn’s comment was some of the worse case of dick riding-itis i ever seen. Kanye cool, but yall just letting yall somewhat disturbing love of Kanye make your comments seem bias. As a non bias commenter, Kanye is a good producer, average rapper.

  45. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    33) NIGGAS OPINIONS WHO THINK THAT GRADUATION WAS EVEN A “GOOD” ALBUM

    34) KANYE’S MOM’S PLASTIC SURGEON

    35) CHANCES OF ANYONE IN G-UNIT GOING PLAT AGAIN

    36) NIGGAS WHO WEAR SKINNY JEANS

    37) ANY NIGGA IN THE WEST NAMED GAME

    38) ICE TEA’S WIFE COCO

    39) OBAMA’S B-BALL GAME

    40) MICHELLE OBAMAS LOOKS..

  46. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    COSIGN @ WORD

    LIKE I SAID.. THESE NIGGAS IN LOVE WITH THE “NIGGA”…. NOT THE MUSIC. EMOTIONAL LIKE BITCHES

  47. slimshady says:

    @crack yo girls, you got WAYYYYYYY too much time on your hands to make that list dood. SMFH.

  48. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    41) NIGGAS IN ATLANTA THAT “ACTUALLY NEEDED” HOUSING THAT WERE AT THE RIOT

    42) TIGER WOODS TASTE IN WOMEN

    43) RON ARTESTS SONG “CHAMPION”

    44) MYSTICAL’S ABILITY TO EVER MAKE IT ON RADIO AGAIN. TAPE THAT NIGGA.

    45) INCEPTION

  49. crack yo girls jawbone says:

    46) NIGGAS WHO SAY I HAVE TO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS TO TYPE A LIST BUT HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO READ MY LISTS.

  50. slimshady says:

    47) NIGGAS WHO NAME THEMSELVES AFTER A JAWBONE WHILE SUCKING ON HOMIES DICK.

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