Kid Cudi Explains Fall Out With Wale

The folks over at Complex released a few outtakes from their October/November issue with Kid Cudi. In the excerpts below, he elaborates on his rift with Wale and takes us back to their GQ shoot with Drake.

Complex: Where did the whole attitude shift towards Wale stem from?
Kid Cudi: I really don’t understand what’s up with this guy, but he’s just somebody I don’t click with anymore. I started making changes in my life and started to realize positive energy around me, and he never really had a good energy. I never felt like he wanted to see me prosper, it was just one of those niggas that was envious rather than happy for a nigga. I could be reading it wrong, but I’m not making beef and rearranging my life. It’s pretty obvious he feels some type of way about it. I’m not into peer mediation and working things out, I’m just trying to provide for my daughter and my family and making music for my fans. I vibe with certain people and some people I don’t.

Complex: Last September you shot a page for GQ’s Men of the Year issue with him and Drake; was everything cool then?
Kid Cudi: The whole time me and him and Drake were doing the GQ shoot, Wale was bitching and being aggravated that clothes weren’t in his size, just really not cooperating and being difficult, and just being a diva. The photographer was like, “Wale, c’mon, smile a bit” and he was like, “Man, I don’t smile, let these other guys smile.” I was like, what kind of shit is that? In my head I’m thinking, “man, this is GQ. If these niggas want you to smile, smile.” We just got picked for “Men of the Year,” that shit is awesome. It’s wack to be on that shit when you’re at a photo shoot, he shouldn’t be getting all riled up. There was tension throughout the whole shoot. Me and Drake have a rapport, we’re cool. We were automatically hitting it off, and kicking it, and Wale was just not trying to be in the situation. He was trying to be too cool. He was acting like he’s too good for the situation, and that’s how he always is. He always acts like he’s bigger than what he is, and I don’t fuck with that at all.

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  • TVA

    Coke is positive energy now…. good to know

  • http://www.doperush.com Ted DiBiase

    They both suck. Cudi got potential, Wale is horrible and always will be.

  • uptown_nwdc

    finally the truth about the jokester coming out slowly but surely.

  • http://apollokidz.com Fluff Daddy

    Wale raps >> Kudi raps but Wale def is #bitchmade. Just make your music Wale. Leave that next ish at home.

  • cudder

    cudi’s music >>> wale’s music

    wale isn’t bad, but his album was meh

  • bOB

    At the end of the day, its not just about your raps. Wale raps better than Cudi, but Cudi makes much better music that connects with people. So that’s why Cudi will always be more successful than Wale.

    Day N nite > Wale’s career.

  • dgtheenigma

    He always acts like he’s bigger than what he is…

    ^^^

    Truer words were never spoken about Wale…no matter how much love Rap Radar attempted to give him.

  • p4l

    @TVA your statement is judgmental of his personal choices…..

  • Drucifer

    This beef is brought to you by Tampax…….

    Fuck Outta here with this cat fight, lol

  • racka

    this whole emo cat fight these two got goin on are gettin me to the point where i dont wanna even hear another song by either of them. ppl meet other ppl everyday that they dont agree with or they have different point of views. this dude sounds like he tellin the school principle on how mean wale is. yall need to grow the fuck up cause i dont think im speakin alone when i say you both are driving fans away from your music for some elementary school null shit. both put out some hot shit over the past year why you tryna fuck it up now?
    Cudi = wale, both are mediocre artists. cudi gets my respect tho cause he helped develope the 808s & Heartbreak sound which was a big step for the hiphop game

  • TVA

    Drake and Cudi are signed to Lil Wayne and Kanye respectively. They have bigger backing. Wale has a management deal with Jay Z but it’s not like he’s a Roc Artist so he didn’t get that big backing. So he has Jimmy Iovine moreso than anything else. They didn’t let him do his mixtape thing for the album. Wale thrives when left to his own devices which is what went on with Drake and Cudi and is going on with J. Cole. AD was different than all the mixtape stuff I’ve heard from Wale. Had he kept to the mixtape formula AD would have been received much better. And while AD didn’t move units like talking about Pretty Girls and Chillin’ were every damn where and are at least on par with Day and Night and Make Her Say. Nothing Cudi has dropped recently except REVOFEV is moving me at all.

  • Drucifer

    @ Racka

    Co Sign

  • Android

    Aaah ,Thats why I hate Wale. This ni99a should be showing all his teeth everywhere! Who told him he was that ni99a.

    This is why j.cole is>.

  • SayAhh

    i never knew Wale was a little girl wow… and they both suck but Kid Cudi album>>>>> Wale(we know he aint ever dropping again)

  • TVA

    @p4l Can’t start talking about all this positive energy stuff when you punching fans and coked out kicking down doors. Don’t care if you Cudi, Soulja Boy or Tony Montana. You doing positive things you can talk about positive energy if you doing negative things don’t talk about positive energy.

  • http://www.RonSpectaculor.tumblr.com Ron Spectaculor

    Kid Cudi is a cool artist and I say that because he is in his own lane. I respect cudi’s artistry. Now wale is one of those, “wanna be rapper” rappers. no real skill just a meatball that feels he should have this huge respect from people and at the end of the day WHAT DID YOU DO SON??? He hasn’t offered the game anything new and from the first single you knew what what it was talking that bullshit about we aint scared of none of yall..HAHA thats what scared niggas say.

  • Drucifer

    Both these dudes make cornball, emo 12 year old white girl music, but one day Wale is gonna have to explain to me how he flopped with Lady Gagas weird ass on the single,lol

  • SayAhh

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< haha and look @ the side of top 5 post it consist of Young Money basically beside Kanye

  • Burr

    I’ve heard this about Wale being a dick for years, nothing new to me. I still like some of his music, but it’s nothing compared to CuDi’s.

  • http://soundcloud.com/angeredrebel angeredrebel

    they both ass …sooo

    soundcloud.com/angeredrebel

  • Later

    @TVA he obviously meant after his whole Coke addiction you idiot

  • flawda

    I would like to see Cudi make one successful album without the assistance of Kanye before i take him serious, it’s easy to talk about Wale when you have a crutch in Kanye. Atleast Wale isn’t leaning on anyone, plus skill wise Cudi aint nowhere close to Wale, the only thing he is good at is melodies and hooks.

  • Motor City

    fairytales

  • walesucks

    Wale is leaning on Mark Ronson
    you know the person who made it possible for him to get an album out
    all the features and production on wale’s album plus it even being released came from the mark ronson backing

  • Salaam

    Is this the same Cudi that threw a bitch-fit when asked to wear Reeboks while performing at a Reebok event. Kind of goes with the booking, no? Both overratted cunts imo.

  • GTFO

    I fanally agree with @flawda

  • Realniggashit

    I like both of them but if i was Cudi or Drake and i felt away about him saying tell them niggas smile i would’ve said something .

  • Realniggashit

    Not now but when it happened

  • JERZZZ

    This niggas the definition of a bitch. Not a fan of Wale either though. But atleast that nigga isnt a soft feminen bitch

  • boi-1da

    both of these guys are clowns!

  • DARKAQUA

    TVA says:
    Tuesday, October 05 2010 at 11:56 AM EST
    Coke is positive energy now…. good to know

    Drucifer says:
    Tuesday, October 05 2010 at 12:17 PM EST
    This beef is brought to you by Tampax…….

    Fuck Outta here with this cat fight, lol

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP MY THOUGHTS….

  • http://BOOMDIZZLE.COM/MISTERKC MISTER KC

    YO! IF YOU NEVR LIVED IN WASHINGTON,DC THEN YOU DON’T KNOW THE MINDSTATE AND LET ME SAY THIS TO KID CUDI AND DRAKE TWO PUPPETS FOR THE LIMELIGHT AIN’T NO BITCH NIGGAS IN DC AND WHEN U DO A SHOW IN DC YOU MIGHT BETTER HAVE EXTRA BODY GUARDS SEE WALE GOT THE PEOPLE BEHIND HIM AND YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT TO BUT I SEE BEATING YOUR GUMS IS WHAT YOU DO BEST.

  • Ya

    Also agree wit flawda. And really cudi? U think u so ahead of the game that’s why no one understands u? Ur lost homie… Really lost. Just cuz kanye’s callin u a genious, don’t let it get to ur head… He also said that bout soulja boy, Justin bieber and Nicki minaj

  • DMVRaised

    Wale is from the DMV. What part of the DMV? DMV is D.C., Maryland, Virginia. Wale is not from the D.C. area. He graduated from Quince Orchard High-School in 03′ which is in Gaithersburg, and Gaithersburg is a boondocks town, (especially the Quince Orchard area) in Montgomery County, in Maryland. How do I know this, cuz I’m from Montgomery County, Maryland. Wale stop getting on your knees for all the D.C. rappers, cuz we out here hustling in PG, MOCO, Fairfax, and Arlington. Wale u aint from da city, u from da fuckign boondocks. U from da 301 which is maryland. Change da lyrics up.

    D.C. chillin, PG chillin, But MOCO livin’

    When it comes to what Kudi said bout Wale acting like a “diva” so fucking true. Im a hip-hop producer, and although Im still up & coming, Ive met a lot of producers and rappers who have worked wit Wale. A lot of them will get down for Wale, but a lot of them know that business aint personal. Business is Wale got paid, so they need Wale’s cash in exchange for beats. How do they really feel bout Wale? he’s a fucking joke.

    See the thing about Wale is he thinks he is DMV’s finest because he’s the first DMV artist to blow up onto a major and still b around. But what Wale doesn’t understand is that he isn’t the best. The DMV just arrived on the scene, and there will be other artist to blow up, so while Wale thinks he’s Don Corleone of DMV, He hasn’t realized that many artist from the area have put a hit out on him, and that he won’t be the “Don” for to long.

  • No Days Off

    I like both of them a lot but right now I gotta say Wale is taking this whole thing better. Cudi is acting like a little bitch complaining about how wale didnt want him to succeed. its probably because he doesnt have a multi-platinum/multi-grammy winner helping him on all his tracks

  • DA FUTURE

    MAN WALE FROM DC OUT HERE WE DONT GIVE A FUCK, HE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH THAT KID WHO WAS IN A WHEEL CHAIR AND SOME DUDE WHO AINT EVEN STREET, WALE FROM THE HOOD HE GOT EVERY RIGHT TO ACT LIK THAT DMV THATS WHATS UP!

  • Citylivin’

    the best revenge is success….that’s what Wale needs to be on so he can shut these niggas up…..for some reason Wale has “Barack Obama” type haters and i don’t know why. Even niggas out of DC don’t like him……….oh well (Wale fan, in case you didn’t know).

  • BlackAnastasia

    The Recipe for Success for any Rapper or Artist first starts with A good Image and Wale has the Persona of a Homeless BackPack Rapper who`s Panhandling Hiphop.It will not work homie,the fans buy into the iIlusion of it all first then the music.And your Image is Lacking.

  • flawda

    LOL at leaning on Mark Ronson, Ronson is more of a behind the scenes dude, he is not Kanye (possibly the biggest artist in the world). I’ve never seen Wale come out on stage on a Mark Ronson tour or speak for Mark Ronson on no “the reason why WE don’t fuck with you” nonsense. That coke got that mediocre mf gassed, he aint that special aside from his hooks and melodies.

  • DMVRaised

    @ DA FUTURE & @ Citylivin’ I aint hating on his music, cuz he can flow, not the greatest flow, but he can. I just don’t agree with the persona he puts out. He is NOT from D.C. stop telling people you are. Your from the DMV yes, but your from the “M” in the DMV, ur from fucking Gaithersburg, thats 26 miles from D.C. your not even around the Capital Beltway which is the I-495, ur way up north 270. stop fucking fronting. My boy graduated like 2 years after you from Quince Orchard.

  • D

    so true, wale always acting like a bitch

  • Cudder

    @Citylivin’

    If he didn’t succeed with Lady Gaga on a hook…LADY GAGA. what other options does he have honestly?

  • Citylivin’

    who gives 3 flying fucks where you’re from anymore?…that’s 2005 shyt, i just want some good music which is what Wale delivers….and if you validate looks over how good someone’s music is, you already lost lol.

  • Citylivin’

    @Cudder
    “Look what i’m up against scrutiny…criticism, everybody judging of a single i ain’t even pick.” – Wale (“The Problem” track #1 “More About Nothing mixtape”)

  • cudiplease

    I couldn’t care less about the discussion of who is better between these two but Cudi needs to realize that no comment says a lot more than going into very large detail why he dislikes Wale. If Cudi is really on his own shit and just worrying about himself then why do into so much detail about why he has distaste for Wale.

    What would you rather listen to RIGHT NOW…….Wale’s banger with Waka or Kid Cudi’s emo raps?

  • illie

    i like both these cats but wale >>> cudi ….

  • mmkayy

    damn what is this…highschool? bet cudi and drake had a little bitch fest after lol

  • Word

    LMAO @ DRUFIER

    Two pussies going at it true. Wale is better than Cudi, but they both faggots. Especially Cudi. Dude is NEVER happy, emo rap at its finest. More About Nothing and Attention Deficit had a few cuts respectively. Cudi album was tooo tooo boring, and he’s honestly a knock off Kanye. You cant even call Cudi original cuz he just like Kanye.

  • REALTALK

    Wale is African and many African’s don’t vibe with American Black people. Trust me I live in Minnesota a hub for Somali, Ethiopian and Nigerians and most of the elders don’t want their children to associate with American Black people because before they come to America they show them videos of Black men as “Ignorant killer thugs” so they come to America scared of Black people…TRUST ME I know this for a fact because the mother of my child is Ethiopian and she broke the whole shit down to me….word

  • The Coon

    Is this the same Cudi that threw a bitch-fit when asked to wear Reeboks while performing at a Reebok event. Kind of goes with the booking, no? Both overratted cunts imo.
    ——————————————–

    true…straight coon right there.

  • Word

    COSIGN @ FLAWDAWS FIRST POST…..sooooooooooooooooooo true.

  • RiQ RuDE

    ok so here i go……Is wale tha guy from the b e t cypher that had THA WORST FREESTYLE EVER?……….i mean terrible…talkn bout “beena leader 4-5 speeda”…..whah ah what? Im from fla and i think the hardest stuff outta Dc is that guy Tabi Bonney…..Kudi is ok….for his audience AND would much better when he goes to youtube and purchases a RiQ RuDE beat…as u shud!!!

  • BRu973

    Imma say & I’ve said it many times before… Wale is a bitch made dude! Cudi is right Wale does have an attitude problem and a lame personality.. I know some thoro cats outta DC, but I know alot more bitch ass niggas in DC than thoro ones… This cat Wale is not street, is not hood, is not DC! More like Gaithersburg, MD… in one of the 5 richest counties in the US…. FACT!! I’m not a fan of Cudi’s music, but he’s absolutely right on this one… He ain’t whining… they asked him a question and he told the truth… There have been way too many incidents with this Nigerian ho ass nigga, even a couple of my own peoples have had incidents where he came off like a douchebag

  • JAYE

    I can see Wale being a douche, he’s always acted like that

  • TE

    To the person who said cudi had kanye….kanye only produced 2 songs on his album…

    Reading the WHOLE article shows Cudi was trying to keep his problems under wraps and not out the public..Wale has been throwing little gabs at him for a minute but there was not a reply from cudi. And I remember that Gaga incident. I guess he had enough of keeping quiet .. The whole interview was real talk. Cudi>

  • MHarstad

    I can’t stand Cudi..dude is wack..I tried to be a fan but he just keeps getting worse

  • walesucks

    @flawda

    his whole interscope deal came from the mark ronson backing
    he be still trying to get his solo album out right now if it wasnt for ronson signing him on allido
    ronson has some serious connects in the music industry in both the US and UK

  • walesucks

    plus him even knowing jay-z at all and being signed on roc nation was because ronson and jay are friends

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  • mac DIESEL

    I KNEW WALE WAS A BITCH!!!! HIM AND HIS WACK ASS MUSIC!!!! BUT CUDI A BITCH TOO!!!! LOOK AT YASELF IN THE FUCKIN’ MIRROR!!!! CUZ U AIN’T TOO FAR BEHIND THAT WACK ASS NIGGA WALE!!!! FUCKIN’ CLOWNS!!!!

    SIDEBAR: WONDER HOW RAPRADAR FEELIN’ ABOUT YN’S FAVORITE SON GETTIN’ SHITTED ON!!!! HA!!!!

    DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!

  • Go_white_rappers

    Fuck wale cudi y shit

  • SAX

    CuDi is the Best Artist of the Century…Hes killin it…..Hes Right

  • Belize

    Cudi>>>>>>>>Wale

  • TE
  • Wacka Flocka Wayne

    DMV Stand up!!!!!!! This nigga cudi can eat a dick !!!!!!!! If cudi were a real nigga he would send a diss track…but its cool cause my nigga wale bout to do that and rip this nigga to nothin…then get some buzz of this and sell sum albums …real talk lol …DMV all day …and Im African to so Africa stand up …Fuck wat u think unless u with me lol

  • uptown_nwdc

    @dmvraised….. thank you!!

  • Wale-is-better

    I cosign @ flawda

    wale is dope, stop hatin
    cudi has some serious anger issues

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  • Capwnzzi

    3 years later and we find out Cudi much more successful than Wale lol! Cudi isn’t a bitch by telling GQ about Wale’s little sissy faggot tantrum about clothes not fitting and him hating on Cudi. I’ve known Wale was an arrogant douchebag just by his tone of voice and interviews for a while but it’s nice to see one of the most honest, heartfelt, and true musicians telling them truth about him in this old video. Call it emo rap because you hating motherfuckers are too shallow to open your feelings to even yourself, let alone millions of people who will be listening to your music for years to come. Cudi tells it how it is, life sucks sometimes, love sucks most of the time, weed is awesome. Wale writes fucking poems that usually don’t even rhyme or follow much of a pattern at all and then converts them into subpar bars. Although I’ve followed Cudi and been a huge fan since MotM, I could name off 5 incredible songs he’s recently released, whereas with Wale I can name a single one, which is perhaps one of the queerest songs I’ve ever heard where the guy thought he was a big shot and the hook is sung by an actual hooker “BAD”. It sure is… Emo rap anyday over some fake persona and image rapper like Wale.

    Imagine being at GQ about to take a photoshoot that only happens once in a lifetime to only a couple of the most famous musicians in the world, and you have Wale, who has less fame than both Drake and Cudi, throwing a fit and being a little bitch the whole time. I’ve been in that situation multiple times, although not a photoshoot for GQ, but having somebody with a bad attitude try to make it a bad experience for everyone because they’re not having fun and stuck in a shit mindset.

    Cudi has dropped a couple new albums that were successful although not highly, and just dropped SATELLITE FLIGHT: JOURNEY TO MOTHER MOON, and announced MotM3 which is guaranteed to be incredible like the two albums before it.

    Wale meanwhile released “Bad”. I don’t listen to that fake, thuggish rubbish shit however so he may have a couple more songs, about gangbanging and how hard he is growing up spoiled and rich but portraying himself as a struggling black man. Fucking be ashamed of yourself Wale. Cudi made it on his own, being true to himself and not skewing his image. That’s very impressive to breakthrough like that and work so hard over such a long time since Day and Night back in the day, Cudi hasn’t stopped grinding.