Fuck Harvey Levin and anybody that loves his celebrity news website. First you prematurely pronounce the impending death of Lil Wayne (Weezy Forgives. We Don't.) and then you try to link the horrific actions of one of the Boston Marathon culprits to our culture? "DEAD BOMBING SUSPECT: HEAVY INTO HIP HOP" You don't say? It's 2013 and most kids are into rap music. We've been penetrated pop culture, you cock suckers. "What's interesting... hip-hop lyrics are notoriously violent and often degrading to women." So our music is at fault in this tragedy? Let's be clear the only bombs my culture cosigns is DJ Funkmaster Flex's sound effects. Thirty Mile Zone is prone to post anything to get traffic. Fuck dude and his coffee cup. Get you a Rap Radar cup and drink with us in the winner's circle.
Oh Miguel. Leg droppin your fans? You ain't Hulk Hogan and that wasn't part of the program. That's no way to treat the adoring ladies, brother.
After Lupe told Sway that not everything has been resolved, Pete Rock clarifies a few of the events that has happened in regards to how “T.R.O.Y.” was used in Lupe’s new song. Pete, the floor is all yours.
It’s true that Lupe Fiasco’s representative from Atlantic Records contacted me last fall and he did so while I was in mourning over the sudden death of my cousin Heavy D. I gave the representative a conditional “yes” to use T.R.O.Y. for Lupe’s album but only based on the condition that I be involved on the project. It’s what I always say when approached by people who want to use that particular song. I was never contacted again. At no point was there any follow up from Atlantic Records. Now, the story gets twisted and it’s being said that I said “yes.” The part about my conditions has been left out to make me seem like I’m a hypocrite. When I heard about the song again, it was done, completed, and playing on the radio…and that was Monday night.
It’s true that people have made T.R.O.Y. over. I can’t control what’s done with my work after it’s already out there but I can control who gets my blessings. Those who involve me and respect me in the process, get my blessings. Those who work behind my back – but all the while putting up a front like I’m down with it – don’t.I’m flattered that they wanted to remake my song and that they respect it for the classic that it is. I just think they should have talked to Atlantic Records to make sure things were done right. The biggest violation is from Atlantic Records but what can you expect? Labels are corporations and their whole point is to sell records. If they respect the artist in the process that would be nice, but they’re not required. For as political as Lupe as, I expected him to know that and to have hopefully made them more accountable. I’m surprised that he’s siding with the corporation on this.Technically, there was no crime committed with the release of Lupe’s version of my song. Technically, the song can be out there but I’m not talking about legalities. I’m asking: Where’s the respect for the code among artists? No ego, but I know my place in this game. I’m recognized as a legend and I accept that. But most of all, I’m a grown man. The love and admiration that people have for me as a producer and as a man of honor has been non-stop, consistent for over 20 years. That’s based on something that can’t be touched. My music and my character stands for itself. T.R.O.Y was a career-defining song has gotten me invited to the White House. It’s not just because people think the production is dope. It’s also because of what the song stands for. I want my music to touch people but I don’t want to be walked over or lied on in the process.I admit that my outburst on Monday night on Twitter was based on my reminiscing about Heav and Troy. I think about them every day. I apologize for being emotional about this. I had no intentions of hurting Lupe’s career. That’s not me. I’m known for building up not breaking down careers. Moving forward, I’m 100% in control and focused on what’s good.
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Good just hope they still are gonna work together
……THE END!!!! NEXT TIME, CALL A NIGGA!!!! FUCK “MY TEAM” SPOKE TO “HIS TEAM” BULLSHIT!!!!
DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!
indeed…i hope this gets resolved!
“I gave the representative a conditional “yes” to use T.R.O.Y. for Lupe’s album but ONLY BASED ON HTE CONDITION I BE INVOLVED ON THE PROJECT”
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HA!!! PETE ROCK HAS TO GIVE NIGGAS AN ULTIMATUM FOR HIM TO GET A CHANCE TO PRODUCE ON THEIR ALBUM!!! NIGGA IF HE WANTED YOU ON THE PROJECT HE WOULD HAVE ASKED YOU!!!!!
DONT YOU HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!!!
Co-sign @Mac
blah blah blah stfu
Next time own your masters, man!
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yeah let this be over so we can get these two in the studio for Hip Hop
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bro im feelin pete ont his one, way to drop the ball on this atl and lupe. fail
Pete stop complaining
With lupes song urs gets more iTunes sales and people go back listen to the original
so shut the fuckup
respect to everybody involved. lupe could have just used the Original sample and not have to get permission from pete rock at all. the truth of the matter, pete rock sampled it from somebody else. so now lupe has to pay the original composer and pete rock, when he could have just paid one (1).
business is business.
god
Seriously if this is how Pete Rock asks all the time, no wonder he barely gets work anymore.
Really asshole like over a sample that ain’t even yours.
How gonna act like God’s gift. I wish the original composers would get involved to shut his ass up.
Been acting real asshole like over something that ain’t entirely his.
you just dont touch classic shit like that smh……..and if you do…IF YOU DARE, make sure you involve the producer/artist smh
Pete Rock is a legend and has contributed much to this game. But, unfortunately, the legends in this game look foolish when they try to “enforce” their legacy. Look, he is entitled to not like that song. But when he couches it that only if people jump through 11 hoops and bow down to him, they can use it, it seems petty. If Lupe uses it and it sucks, then it sucks. In my mind, hopping on the beat to begin with is a tribute in and of itself. If Lupe didn’t come correc,t then the fans should judge him. And because it’s such a classic record, he has to spit something amazing (which he didn’t).
Pete Rock, here, is unfortunately suffering from KRS-One syndrome. Someone who did something great, but runs aorund yapping out respect and construing everything as a slight, to the point where they are crippled as an artist.
Man, the only reason why Pete Rock is making a fuss now is because it’s about money and getting on a big project. Homie is mad they didn’t ask him to make his beat.
This is the 1st time Lupe’s rapped on this beat. Don Cannon remade this beat for a DJ Greg Street album some years back. A couple guys went in on it. One guy was Lupe. Kardinal Offishall was one of the others…where was Pete Rock, then? EXACTLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1l1K5W_24
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that was a mixtape track. not a major label single release…
@gammaboi it wasn’t a single
MTV is saying it’s a single. Plus, it’s clear Atlantic was clearly involved.
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“I gave the representative a conditional “yes” to use T.R.O.Y. for Lupe’s album but ONLY BASED ON HTE CONDITION I BE INVOLVED ON THE PROJECT”
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HA!!! PETE ROCK HAS TO GIVE NIGGAS AN ULTIMATUM FOR HIM TO GET A CHANCE TO PRODUCE ON THEIR ALBUM!!! NIGGA IF HE WANTED YOU ON THE PROJECT HE WOULD HAVE ASKED YOU!!!!!
DONT YOU HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!!!
^FRAME THIS! PETE NEEDS TO FACE THE FACE THAT HE’S WASHED UP. NEXT THING YOU KNOW HE’LL TELL ROSS RADAR TO PAY HIM TO WRITE ABOUT HIM.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
Greg Street’s mixtape was actually supposed be his album and it was intended for a major label release but never came out so he released himself, so did he check for clearance with Pete Rock – I bet not. Did Don Cannon get hell for it, I bet not. Yes, the fact it’s a single matters because Pete Rock wishes he had a single in this day and age. LMAO at his last relevant song being The Joy which is a bonus track.
I know lupe was lying.
Lupe is average at best – why should he touch a classic like this? Theres literally a dozen others who are more entitled to this. HE FUMBLED Electric Relexation, a song he only had to recite and he couldnt even do that.
The worst thing of em all is his weak claim that he wanted to do the song in order to help Pete and expose his music to a different kinda crowd when really, its all about him (Lupe). He wants to do this song so HE can profit from it.
Lupe, you played yourself. Fuckouttahere..
LOL at the people saying Lupe didn’t go in on the beat. He released the best song of 2012 with that song. And you say Lupe is average at best? Mmmm I don’t even need to try and defend Lupe cos after you said that, your opinion aint valid. Bottom line Pete Rock is looking like a prick. Acts all godly over a sample that isn’t his despite him sayin yes to it. The nigga is over
Fuck Lupe Fiasco! Where’s Bill O’ Reilly when u need him?!!
Pete Rock is a fuck nigga. period. making a legendary records and being a bitch nigga at the same time are things that happen often, all over the world.
i get sick of all this “respect me as a legend in the game” shit. these bum ass legends and what they feel entitled to. respect is being contacted in the first place, in november. cuz truthfully, NIGGA YOU DONT EVEN OWN THE SHIT. the samples never cleared, it isn’t even your shit. how many records has pete rock sampled in his producer career, and how many times did he ask personal permission from the originator of the record before he touched it? did he get a blessing from curtis mayfields estate, personally, and family, when he made The Joy?
“but only if i can be involved in the project”. in other words, it ain’t about hev or t-roy, it’s about money. fuck that shit. he just wanted his name on the shit. that’s all it is. Lu toss that nigga a frank and send him on his way.
he wanna be on stage rockin out while lu performs it all over the world. he wanna be brought out and put on the jumbotron so he can stunt. he want the original music video to play on mute on the screen while lu rappin. hahahaha… niggas, i tell you.
And if Lupe was interested in actually paying homage, that’s exactly what he would have done. Or of course he could have always used a different song, or maybe even done something original. But instead, Lupe decided to team up with the major labels to rape and pillage classic hip hop culture just to barely keep his name relevant, which is much, MUCH worse than anything Pete Rock has done here.
Pete Rock = irrelevant
Lupe = culture vulture and corporate pimp
STFU Pete. You’re salty because you weren’t involved with a song that YOU SAMPLED! You don’t own the fucking sample. When you thought that you and Lupe were going to work together you were quick to stop bitching. If I were Lupe I would tell you to go FUCK YOURSELF! You lost mad respect on this one Pete
LOOKS LIKE MY BOY PETE NEEDS TO SPEND SOME OF THAT T.R.O.Y. MONEY ON SOME COCOA BUTTER!! PUT THE ASHY IN CLASSY!!
Yall so disrespectful, and this is why Hip-Hop is a laughing stock in 2012. Outsiders use to be in aww of our culture now they laugh at us at every turn. HIP-HOP IS THE ONLY GENRE WHERE THE YOUNGER GENERATION DOESNT RESPECT THE ARTIST BEFORE THEM.
YOU WOULD NEVER HEAR TRAVIS BARKER TALK CRAZY ABOUT EDDIE VAN HALEN.
OUR MUSIC HAS WENT FROM SUGAR TO SHIT IN LESS THAN 30 YEARS..
SHAME ON US
STFU TRACK KING COLE
This one is my favorite sample stealing music issue.
You stole from me when in fact pete rock stole from someone in the first place.
So stealing from someone who stole is not as bad as stealing from the original creator.
I go for team Lupe on this.
Pete rock is genius but to much confusion regarding this just sample and make music.
copyrights are for losers
Where is the respect from ppl on here commenting? More than half these dudes commenting seem salty. I can’t wait until yall attitudes and behavior kicks u in ya own ass.
THERE IS LITERALLY NO RESPECT IN HIP HOP. JUST MAD PPL FRUNTING LIKE ITS ALL LOVE
I swear these legends all ways feel like someone owes them something.
A classic is a classic. If it wasn’t niggas would be able to make they own dope sh*t.
It’s like folks make it a point to to not acknowledge what that song meant, means to him.
It was probably less expensive to sample Pete & CL then Tom Scott + if it wasn’t for Pete sampling the song in the first place it would’ve been just like any other random song on the radio – he used the beat because of its nostalgic/classic value
Lupe, with all the drama he had with Atlantic records, he now sides with them – B.A.N. move!
How in all other musical genre people (fans& artists) got utmost respect for those who paved the way? Hip Hop is so fucking juvenile, shiiiit!
WTF! Reminise, really! PETE ROCK its only a BEAT you put “Over a saxophone and bass sample of Tom Scott’s cover of “Today” by Jefferson Airplane.. what the fuck is the problem?!?!
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