Louis Farrakhan Salutes Jay Electronica

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Peace Gawd.

Jay Electronica’s return shook the game up at this year’s Brooklyn Hip-Hop Fest. His reemergence even caught the of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who saluted the MC on the Final Call’s website. In the letter, Farrakhan defended Elect’s lyrical content and offered to meet him.

I am very proud of the Fruit of Islam (F.O.I.) and the Believers who stood with Brother Jay Electronica as he delivered what he delivered to the people gathered in Brooklyn at The Hip Hop Festival in New York.

I understand that some criticized Brother Jay Electronica’s use of profanity while wearing the uniform of the Fruit of Islam (F.O.I.) of The Nation of Islam.  I humbly and respectfully ask:  Has any of us who have accepted Islam and its required high degree of moral excellence and civilization ever said or done anything that is less than representative of what we believe?  I am sure that all of us, if we are honest, would have to say that we have.  Is the uniform that represents us as the Muslim Girls Training and General Civilization Class (M.G.T.) or F.O.I. more important than that which we say we believe and should represent 24 hours a day?  If we violate our own teachings or make mistakes in how we handle our teachings and ourselves with respect to our moral teachings, do we not expect and desire Allah (God) to be forgiving and merciful to us, particularly if we petition for His forgiveness?  Of course we do. (Read Holy Qur’an, Surah 26 “The Poets,” verses 78-82 – Abraham speaking of and to The Lord of The Worlds)

Is Brother Jay perfect in his representation?  Of course not.  Are we 100 percent in our representation?  Of course not.  As persons who have accepted righteousness as our standard of intellectual and moral conduct are considered “those who are striving to be upright,” then there is much room in all of us for improvement.

So if any of us have said anything that is offensive in the dialogue that has ensued, in these closing days of our Ramadan fast, let us ask Allah (God) to forgive us, for I am sure that for most of us the intention of our hearts was not to do evil but to encourage a better representation, a more perfect representation of what we believe.  Then let us be the first to exemplify what we are encouraging Jay Electronica and other Muslims, and our people, to do.

The Messiah is One Who is encouraging the steps that each and every human being makes in the process of reconciliation to God and resurrection to our original position with Him.  I am like a parent who is watching the steps that our people are making and that we are making in the process of resurrection.  What parent seeing its child making its first steps walking toward its mother and father dressed in a diaper that needs changing will think of the diaper change?  No parent will think of the diaper change; the parent will praise the steps that the child is making, knowing that the parents still have a little more work to do in teaching and training that the child may one day be “potty trained.”

Jesus, in The Gospel (John 8:1-11), gave a beautiful picture that describes our work today. A woman was found in adultery and brought to Jesus for Jesus to agree the adultery she was found in, according to the law sent down by Moses, required that she should be stoned to death.  All of those who came had their stones ready—but Jesus, The Messiah, kneeled down and wrote in the sand, “He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”  And none of those who came to stone her could throw a stone.  Being perfect in his righteousness, Jesus said, “Woman, where are your accusers?  Neither do I accuse you”; then he gave this command to her, “Go and sin no more.”

The Work of The Messiah is to reconcile fallen man into oneness with God.  That is a process that puts all who are a part of The Messiah’s Work on a journey that is exceedingly difficult.  Sometimes we are up, sometimes we are down; but nevertheless, we are encouraged to get up, dust off, and keep moving toward the goal.  So let us not be like the self-righteous hypocrites of that day when Jesus refused to accuse the woman whom they say was found in adultery.  Let us not strain at “a gnat,” and swallow “the camel” of our own evil.

I am grateful to Allah for my young brother and his effort to represent that which he has come into the knowledge of.  I am thankful to Allah for his work among the youth!  Is it not they whom Allah desires for us to save from the evil intentions of our and their enemy?

So let us in this month of Ramadan, this month of fasting where we deny ourselves that which is natural (food and drink and companionship with our mates during the daylight hours); let us who are fasting from the natural desires to give us strength to overcome the unnatural desires of stealing and lying and cheating and covetousness and the evil of this world’s life:  Let us ask Allah’s (God’s) forgiveness.  And as we ask it for ourselves, let us be quick to forgive others as well.

In closing:  I was one of the 85 Percent, according to our Lessons, deceived by the 10 Percent; but when I met the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, and bore witness to him and The Great Mahdi, Master Fard Muhammad, to Whom praise is due forever, I became one of the 5 Percent, “The Poor Righteous Teachers,” who know The Law of Cause and Effect, and are busy every day teaching the 85 Percent that are victims, slaves and tools of the wicked 10 Percent.

So, if someone offered me what Brother Jay Electronica was offered by Brother Jay Z, I too would accept it with the biggest smile on my face, for I too, as all of us in The Nation of Islam, are The Five Percent:  Poor Righteous Teachers who are called to teach the 85 Percent, and free them from the chains of slavery and subservience as tools of the 10 Percent.

May Allah’s peace be with all of us, and may He grant us forgiveness for any shortcomings that we may have and have manifested.  And if it is The Will of Allah, I hope that I will soon meet Brother Jay Electronica to guide him in The Great Work that I know he will do for The Cause of Islam.

Ramadan Mubarak.  As-Salaam Alaikum.
Your brother and servant,

Louis Farrakhan

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  • Lucky Lefty

    In other words, young ones….”Shout out to the bro, Jay Elec. Salute, my dude.”

  • .Trillion.

    Half the problems in the world are to do with these people and what they believe in SMH

    • marty mcfly

      No sir. The overwhelming majority of “these people” have never killed anybody, never wished death on anybody and want nothing to do with negativity and greed and power grabs of military strengthened nations funded by America. Id say this, why whenever there’s a conflict going on in the world? The bad guys are always the once with brown or black skin and the ones painted as good guys are always white? and that side always has a hundred times more military capabilities and a hundred times more money and have a death toll and body count thats hundred times greater then the other side but yet the other side is painted as the bad guys. Why when people say they would rather be free and unoccupied and un-oppressed? Why are they always the ones painted as the bad guys and the activity of invading nations are never put on blast? Just saying

    • marty mcfly

      And if your talking about the Nation Of Islam in america? How many problems have they really caused here? It would seem that they’ve been on the receiving end of problems (from the KKK, Police during Jim Crow and after, FBI-COINTELPRO, the CIA, the media etc…) alot more then the other way around.

      • Jake Zero

        The Nation Of Islam are’nt involved in violence, drug usage or drug abuse.
        They present themselves in a pristine fashion and do nothing but positive in the community.

        • marty mcfly

          Thats what im saying. Now its been years since I actually seen them in the community but I used to see them every now and then back n the day. They was just handing out Final Call’s and saying peace brother and peace sister as people walked by. Then I go home and the news is calling them a threat to the peace in america. I never seen them act in a way that they have been portrayed but I have seen the police get physical when it wasn’t necessary alot of times though.

        • Brian B.Dot™ Miller

          facts

          • THE REAL mac DIESEL

            NIGGA, SHUT UP!!!! YOU EAT PORK!!!!

            DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!

          • PTK

            Those ain’t no damn facts, did you (plural) forget noi killed malcolm, setting off a bloody war that spilled out all over the country? The black mafia?? Running drugs from kansas city to philly. Shot up khalis muhammad’s family in dc and drowned babies in the bathtub? Drivebys in ATL? Rumored to have killed black thought’s parents and napoleon’s parents? Not to mention beheading white people in detroit? WTF? Facts Only.

          • marty mcfly

            Even with that, your describing some murders (that were NOI but also paid assassins) from a huge organization ten times bigger then most other gangs in america and alot of those gangs have committed way more murders the the Nation Of Islam. In last 50 years you can speak on a handful of murders by the NOI, most these other gangs have committed more murders in a year then then the NOI did in 5 decades. Bloods, Crips, MS13 etc…

          • marty mcfly

            Or I should say men turned from NOI into agents that became assassins…

          • PTK

            Stop drinking that kool-aid. NOI has been shrinking since the 70’s. The FOI are assassins/goons. Earlier you said they haven’t killed anyone I just gave you a small history of people they have killed. They have been about killing from the very beginning and don’t get me started on the west coast killings. Biggie’s shooter? The DC sniper? It’s ridiculous to compare them to ms13 or the crips, these niggas are supposed to be positive. Instead they drown babies and kill parents in front of their kids.

          • marty mcfly

            How many people are in the Nation Of Islam in america? How many of them are actual killers? I said the overwhelming majority of “these people” have never killed anybody and thats a true statement. So if you gonna say I said something then be exact about what I said. You say the FOI are assassins and goons… No sir, again the overwhelming majority of them are everyday people that live normal lives like the majority of america people in general.

          • PTK

            The overwhelming majority of people in the KKK have not killed anyone.

          • marty mcfly

            but historically they have way more killers then the NOI. Put it like this, to be in the KKK as any member with rank you had to kill somebody or order somebody to be killed. To be in the NOI you gotta put your gun down and make a pledge to not kill. Thats two totally different things. The body count from the KKK is unknown because they have killed so many people that the system just lost count. The murders committed by members from the NOI would barely be enough to fill up one folder of names. Again the murders committed by the KKK are unknown because it was too many to keep track of.

          • PTK

            You watch too many movies. The murders they’ve committed in one prison can fill up a folder. If they gave up killing how do all these murders happen? How did malcolm get killed? Likewise the murders committed by the NOI are too many to keep track of. I can give you masaacres they have committed from every decade they have been active since the 1930’s. I can give you murders in every major city. Stop defending those clowns.

          • marty mcfly

            You can give me propaganda that you have no proof of but thats about it. Every government agency in america tried to take the NOI down and were unsuccessful overall and you mean to tell me at the same time they were committing an uncountable amount of murders and were the main traffickers of drugs in america? Ok well you need to take that information to the cops then cause the NOI has been around for generations now and over the course of decades those extremely large counts of murders and waves of drugs as yet to be proven in court to any significant degree that would suggest this is some sorta controlled effort involving everybody in the NOI and the FBI been trying for years to build those cases. Again the overwhelming majority of the NOI were not convicted or even accused of any murders, they are not assassins and goons and are not drug dealers. They everyday people that went on and lived their lives like everyday people.

          • PTK

            You sound stupid right now. Everything I’ve said is verifiable if you’re willing to look. You want me to do the google searches for you? How many murders do you want to see? How many do I have to produce for you to change your mind? Better yet; what is an acceptable amount of murders for a group like the NOI to commit? How many are you willing to turn a blind eye to? The counter-intelligence program of the FBI wasn’t interested in the NOI. They were not considered a threat. That’s a fact. They have always been cooperative with the Feds and the police. When the police were killing NOI members in Los Angeles they did nothing. They only kill black people. Is it that you think none of them have gone to jail for their crimes or is it that you are willing to accept crime from them? I think that makes you a hypocrite. Show me NAACP’s crimes or FAME’s crimes, anything that would normalize what these clowns have done. Don’t compare them to gangs or terrorists groups unless you consider them a gang or a terrorist group. If you still think a few murders here and there are acceptable do us all a favor and kill yourself.

          • marty mcfly

            Everything you just said is complete BULLSHIT. The reason you want me to fucking google shit is because thats the only source of information your familiar with and you know very little of what your talking about so you want me to look for things you have made an assumption about and have use adopted opinions about to form your own conclusions. Im aware that murders have been committed, just like murders have been committed by almost every large group of people ever. I could make the case that american christians are really “assassins and goons” like you call the NOI. The reason that would be considered bullshit is because the actions of a few do not represent the intention, mentality or the values of the larger majority. Again, every government agency that represents the law were looking at the NOI and that includes the FBI, the police etc… Your argument is that the NOI were a bunch of ‘assassins and goons” that flooded the streets with drugs and committed an uncountable amount of murders. You and I both know that is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. There is absolutely no way possible to pull anything like that off in america without setting off a firestorm that would have been so blown up to historical proportions. If you look at the way the mob in america was handled. How many murders, how much drugs and how many cases were built against the mob? The NOI has never had that kinda reputation and have no significant number of murders and crimes that is any close to being compared to the mafia or the Klan. Especially if the NOI and basically any large group of black people at that time were being investigating by the police simply for forming into a group to begin with. The NOI never cooperated with the police. Fool your talking about a time when racial tensions were boiling like crazy. The NOI and the law enforcement agencies of america wanted nothing to do with each other and the feds and the cops were consistently looking for ANYTHING possible to link the NOI to murders and drugs etc… What your dumbass is suggesting is that the NOI went on some kinda military invasion on america style murder spree and were also the ultimate drug dealers at a time when black people were getting looked up just for being black period. What you are suggesting is complete bullshit and totally false.

          • PTK

            You’re gonna have to google it because I’ve given you enough gems. You’ve been hoodwinked, bamboozled. If you’re not willing to question your own beliefs there’s nothing I can do for you. You can’t argue the facts that I’m presenting with the conjecture that you’re presenting. Which murders have been committed by the NAACP? First African Methodist Episcopal? Southern Christian Leadership Conference? Please tell me. The FOI is trained in hand-to-hand combat and weapons, why? Not so they can fight the FBI or the police, they never do that. BUt they shot Malcolm and countless others. That makes them goons. When you can send a trained squad of killers to beat people up they are goons. Show me a megachurch in the united states with a goon squad. Where TD Jake’s killers at? When those same goons are sent to shoot an unarmed man or small children they are assassins. And if you think the FOI makes moves without orders you’re a fool. Everything I’ve said has been reported in newspapers, magazines, radio books. Do the knowledge. There’s no need to argue. Or maybe you could just read the FBI files, it’s on their web site.

          • marty mcfly

            Yeah you’ve been doing alot of FBI file reading without having enough sense to know that the FBI and other agencies have made it their mission to paint the NOI as ‘assassins and goons” so the fact you believe it is not surprising to me. You mention a whole bunch of black organizations and then speak on the NOI, you act has if the NOI is a black wave that lays entire cities down but yet you have no huge list of a murder spree committed by the NOI. You dont consider the times of the 60s 70s and 80s when the police wanted to have a gun battle with the NOI so bad that in many cases they were the aggressors not the NOI, it would’ve been impossible for the NOI to be some murders band of assassins walking around out in the open in america and just spray people left and right without setting off a literal war. Your talking about my beliefs? Im not a member of the NOI but I do have common sense and I know for a fact it would’ve been IMPOSSIBLE of the NOI to be what describing has like an invasion of black people with military capabilities running all over america going on a murder spree. Like fool during those days the police would look black people so quick they would barely get off one shot before every cop in town was on their ass. Now you mean to tell me the NOI, was just running around like the fucking black mob in america and thats something you feel I need to google? If what your saying is true then there would’ve been a literal war on american soil, plain and simple. Thats not something I would have to google cause it would be historical fact at that point. The Mob and the Klan in america were organizations that went on murder sprees and rampaged america. Thats common knowledge. The NOI has never ever been even close to being considered as equal to such in any regards involving murder because thats just not what happened. Smh

          • PTK

            so you’re not a member of NOI and you haven’t studied the issue? please go sit down. at no time in this country’s history has it been impossible to get away with killing black people, have a seat. I’ve asked you over and over how many murders you want me to list. you complain that there are no arrests but then criticize the fbi files. if there are arrests and illegal activity there will be fbi and police files on it. Facts only. you can’t debate facts with your little opinions and assumptions.

          • marty mcfly

            I dont have to be a member of the NOI to know history idiot. Im from america. I was never in Vietnam but I could tell you about it cause obviously its american history. You talking about how many murders should you list? Any amount that you feel backs up your argument. You have compared the NOI as assassins and goons with a murder rate comparable to the KKK? If thats true you should have a very very very long list of murdered people then. Well list the names and you can use FBI files and you can use documented cases from a court of law. Make your list…

          • PTK

            give me a number

          • marty mcfly

            Are you a member of the NOI? so please sit the fuck down

          • marty mcfly

            And I never complain that there were no arrests? Again dumbass, there were many arrest back then. Black people used to get arrested for just walking around in an area where white people were present so yes arrests were made. Im saying if you have proof that the NIO is really a death squad that goes out killing black people like the way you are suggesting? That would be extremely easy to prove because all the victims would have had to come from somewhere, they had names so it would be hard to prove at all. The reason you want me to go find some shit that you can use as evidence to back up your argument is because you have none. You simply read some shit somewhere that you have complete faith is true from people that hated the NOI and black people in general to begin with.

          • PTK

            Which one is it: i have no evidence or i read something? you don’t have the analytical mind to do research for me. in all honesty which is dumber, you debating me about something of which you have no knowledge or me believing something i read?

          • marty mcfly

            Which is dumber? Well almost everything you say is dumb because what your suggesting is the NOI is a death squad that goes around murdering black people to a degree large enough to where the assassins and goons represent the whole Nation Of Islam? Well that would be extremely easy to prove. The death toll would be crazy if that was the case so where is it?

          • PTK

            what do you mean “to a degree”? a massacre is a massacre. are there levels to massacres?

          • marty mcfly

            Ok so list the massacres. The NIO is an organization with hundreds of thousands if not a million plus people in it over the course of decades and generations. If the NOI was running around in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s or anytime period, committing massacres then the whole world would point that out. It would be to big to not see. You have murders and massacres in america committed by two people that were reported on an caught immediately. So how the NOI and huge organization is running around doing massacres and nobody is saying that but you? If that was the case, not only would it be world news but there would be dead bodies all over the place with bullets in them that trace right back to the NOI. You would no only have reports but you would have actual video of the NOI killing large amounts of people and going to war with the police. There would be people with bullet wounds all over the country and if the NOI was committing massacres that would be world news fool. The fucking military would be called in… the problem is your bullshit theories just are not the case. On top of that you have government agents that have admitted that their intent was to change the publics perception of the NOI so they purposely put investigations of them to make it seem as if it was a criminal organization. Just STFU

          • marty mcfly

            Put it like this, I could give you list of murdered people killed by the mob that would go on for a very long time. The list would have proven cases where the mob and its members did indeed kill a large number of people without any shadow of a doubt. The murders by the mob are so well known that at this point its common knowledge. The Mob was a secret organization and people still know. The NOI was never a secret. They held events right out in the open where everybody could see them. They went out and spoke against murder and violence in the streets for generations. Now you mean to tell me the murderous activity from a secret organization from the mob is obviously well known but an organization like the NOI which was right out in the open and made itself known to every black and white person in america for the last 50 years… and you having trouble proving the NOI is really a death squad? You mean to tell me you caught something that most of america doesn’t even believe? Including the people sent to investigate the NOI? GTFOH

          • PTK

            keep it real, you just don’t know shit about the NOI. you’re just speculating. I never said I couldn’t prove anything, I said google it. alternatively, I asked you to give me a number of murders you would like me to present you with. how many murders for you to STFU?

          • marty mcfly

            Any amount you’d like but make it significant enough to prove what your suggesting. That the NOI is really an organization of assassins and goons? If thats the case then the NOI would be one of thee most notorious organizations of history. Not just american history but world history. The whole world would view the NOI in america was one of the most dangers organizations to ever exist in america. The fucking death toll would be ridiculous but that did not happen. 99% of the time when the NOI is brought in conversation? Murder is not even mentioned and if it is, Malcolm is the only name really said. 99% of the time when the NOI is mentioned, people say oh those guys in bow ties with newpapers and bean pies? Nobody runs when the NOI show up, as a matter a fact people walk up and talk to them. That does not sound like a death squad to me.

          • PTK

            Oh what’s this? Black Mafia? Mostly muslim and NOI members? And a list of their murders??? LOL I can’t wait to see what goofy defense you come up with. Log off fam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia#Infamous_Crimes_–_Many_Remain_Unsolved

          • marty mcfly

            So almost 20 hours after talking you post one shred of evidence. Ok now using your own common sense and also realizing that the agenda of the NOI was to turn those that were gangsters into civilized people. What you are suggesting is that the “Black Mafia” is the whole Nation Of Islam and all the members of the NOI from around the country are gangstas and assassins and goons from this Black Mafia set in Philly? NO fool. The first line of this wiki page says what? The Black Mafia (or Muslim Mafia) is a Philadelphia based crime syndicate… The reason they made that distinction is to show you the point of origin from that particular organization. Now if somebody is a from California and a member of the NOI and have never been to Philly, or the eastcoast and doesn’t know anybody from there? Is he also apart of this Philadelphia crime organization? Of course not you fucking idiot. You pulled up a small group of brothers that make up about an organization of about 30 people. Now is the NOI a small organization of people based outta Philadelphia? No, the NOI is a huge organization with members from all of the country and many of which have never met these brothers in Philly, never seen them not once a day in their life and wasn’t even around when those brothers was doing crime. You need to understand this basic point and for at least a second realize how stupid you sound. The NOI has been around for 80 plus years now and there has been millions of members in that time period from then to now from all over the country. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ARE NOT ASSASSINS AND GOONS. Now use common sense and recognize this basic point. You pull up a little ass gang in Philly called the Black Mafia and use them as the activity for a whole Nation Of Islam from around the country. I mean how stupid is that. SMFH

          • PTK

            you’re an idiot. what you have there is everything you asked me for. you want more? how many do you want?

          • PTK

            again, give me any decade and i will give you murders from that decade. give me any major city and i will give you murders from that city.

          • marty mcfly

            Give me any religious groups or political group and I can do the same. Murders happen ever day somewhere in america. I could take those murders and get the backgrounds of all those that identify themselves as christian (or any political side) and make up a big piece of bullshit about how christians in america are really assassins and goons. Only thing is I know thats some dumb shit. If the NOI was assassins and goons there would have been a war fought on american soil, its that simply. The NOI at several points from the 1960s through the 1990s had over a million members… If they were all assassins and goons they would have been so many murders in america we would still be finding the bodies today but again THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE NOI ARE NOT ASSASSINS AND GOONS.

          • PTK

            I gave you three groups: NAACP, SCLC and FAME

          • marty mcfly

            I didnt ask you about three groups? This is about the NOI fool. Like I said earlier, if what your saying is true then you need to take that to the government because every law enforcement agency in the country has been trying to established proof that the NOI is really just a whole nation of goons that are here to kill black people or people in general. They have spent millions of dollars trying to prove that theory and have failed. They get some gangsters who have done shit and then in the end find out that person did what the did on their own decision and was carrying out the wishes of the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY that are NOI from all around the country.

          • PTK

            “Give me any religious groups or political group and I can do the same.” I just gave you three groups, go ahead or STFU

          • marty mcfly

            Well even with the NAACP? They have had people in their organization that shouldn’t have been there BUT again, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people involved with the NAACP aint assassins and goons either. You lose again.

          • PTK

            LMAO cmon son, give me a murderer from the NAACP. And if you think these guys shouldn’t have been in the noi give me one example of them being condemned by the noi.

          • marty mcfly

            Thats not my job to do that. Im not making the assumption that a whole nation of black people are all assassins and goons but somehow your the only one who actually has proof of that cause at this point the whole government has pretty much given up on making that case. You had law enforcement from all agencies try to build a criminal case against “these people” for three generations now and after all this time they have come to the conclusion that certain people within these organizations just acted on their own will. It was never some organize crime shit to the level that your describing. Your the last wannabe cop making that claim not me. Again dummy THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of these organizations are not assassins and goons. Lets say what your saying is true? That would make the NOI the greatest criminal organization in american history. Like they dont even hide, they massacre warfare level amounts of people and walk around freely in bow ties and the police cant build a case against the organization itself but you can? LOL

          • PTK

            you can’t do it, cuz they never have. your boys are complicit.

          • marty mcfly

            Man STFU, you dont know which way to go. One minute there a crime organization all over the country and world and their assassins and goons that run around committing murders and massacres and now their complicit. Listen dumbass, if what your saying is true? Every American living in this country would have the same story as you but your the only one who believes this bullshit. Everybody else with common sense knows that you have a huge organization built on doing positive shit, that opened their doors to any black person. So with doing that, you also had some criminal elements involved as well BUT, if somebody is going around doing massacres like you say, its safe to say that person is responsible for their own actions. Again dumbass, if somebody who was raised in a christian church goes out and kills somebody, does that mean the whole christian community around the country is a criminal organization of assassins and goons? This is the simple logic that everybody who is not a ridiculously dumb piece of shit understands. The few doing some criminal shit do not represent THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY who are not doing that.

          • PTK

            yeah I didn’t think you could find a shooter from the NAACP.

          • marty mcfly

            What you are is a hater at the end of the day. The thought that not all black people run around killing people and selling drugs? Is something your own hatred and stupidity wont allow to accept but the NOI didnt form up as assassins and goons going on killing spree missions. That was never the case. You got people in the organization (like in almost every organization) that did shit because they still had a criminal mentality but again THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE NATION OF ISLAM are neither assassins or goons. Hater

          • PTK

            you’re blind b, blind to the facts.

          • marty mcfly

            Your blind to the facts and common sense. If I walked in a courtroom and said hey this one gang means the whole christian community in america is a criminal organization of assassins and goons? They would say GTFOH. This simply piece of common sense is what you just refuse to see so your the blind one, not me.

          • PTK

            you refuse to hear the truth. that was one set of circumstances in one city, i can give you similar examples from every city or nationally or internationally if you want. you can pick the year, the crime and the city!

          • marty mcfly

            Yeah what your dumbass doesn’t understand is if what your saying is true? There would be an all out military style war fought on american soil if that was the case. America would never let a black organization walk around free outside slaying thousands of people in every major city like its nothing. Thats the level of violence your describing? If the NOI was a nation of assassins and goons, you would have the straight up army, marines and navy fighting a war in the streets of america with black people. Period but that did not happen any time in history here in america where the NOI was engaged in that kinda warfare. You can not murder thousands of people around the country and then hide while also holding events and walking around in broad daylight wearing suits and bow ties. Thats an impossibility and even if they went to prison (which again the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY did not), if you had an influx of prisons all coming from the NOI around the same era whether it be all at once or over the course of years. That would be common historical fact. There is no way to hide a huge number of people all moving in one way, especially if their assassins and goons. Your so stupid you believe your own inflated bullshit but dont use common sense. If you build an organization of assassins and goons on america soil that means war period. There is no getting around that. The military would be called on the NOI and that did not happen to any degree that would suggest they are a nation of assassins and goons.

          • PTK

            you have a very active imagination

          • marty mcfly

            Thats not imagination, thats a fact. Go back and look at the racial tensions in the 60s 70s and 80s. The police and every government agency was already all over the black community. Now you mean to tell me the NOI are a bunch of goons and assassins that formed all over the country while they were being watched by the US government and at no point there was never an all out war? The NOI is not hard to find, the fucking temples are in the damn phonebook and its black people wearing suits and you mean to tell me they were assassin and goons committing massacres all over the country and then walking around in broad daylight and the military was never called in to combat against those massacres? I mean at one point you said the NOI has committed an uncountable amount of murders comparable to the KKK? That would mean there were black people in the fucking civil rights era going around murdering hundreds of thousands of people while also under watch by every law enforcement agency in the country at the same time? That is simply illogical and impossible. Now STFU

          • PTK

            how old are you? sounds like you were born yesterday.

          • marty mcfly

            Ok well damn, I guess the NOI is the greatest gang of assassins and goons that has ever existed in american history then. America thinks the Mob is tough? Damn I guess the NOI makes the Mob look like kids doing pranks then LOL

          • PTK

            first semi-intelligent thing you’ve said

          • marty mcfly

            Thing is your the only one who believes this bullshit. The fucking united states government doesn’t even believe that shit and they the ones that have been doing investigations ever since the NOI began and they dont even say the shit you saying. You take the Mob for example, there are a million reports, stories, documentaries, movies, etc… about the Mob. Their criminal activity is known by every person in the united states. The NOI been around 80 years and your the only one who can prove their really a crime organization of assassins and goons? Never in my life have I ever seen any piece of evidence that is undeniable proof that the whole NOI are really assassins and goons running around doing massacres. That sounds like some shit, a piece of white trash living out in the country would say LOL. Again GTFOH

          • PTK

            how much is farrakhan paying you?

          • PTK

            and for the record they never had over a million members. get sober.

          • marty mcfly

            Yes the have. Between the start of the Nation Of Islam and today in 2014, there has been more then a million people that have passed through their doors at some point.

          • PTK

            lmao you’re pathetic. just kill yourself.

          • marty mcfly

            You first hater.

          • marty mcfly

            You gave me the information from one gang in Philly as a representation of a whole nation of black people that have been NOI for 80s years. Are you fucking serious. There are gangs that have dont more murders and done more damage in one year then the gang you posted about did in their whole career as the Black Mafia. They even called themselves the black mafia you fucking idiot, I asked you about the Nation Of Islam. Clearly by naming themselves the Black Mafia, they gave themselves a separation in lifestyle and they let you know that by naming themselves the Black Mafia. GTFOH

          • marty mcfly

            I mean there are gangs that have DONE more murders in one year then the gang you posted about. Shit it gangs that have done more damage in the streets in two months then the Black Mafia and thats who you posted as the representatives of the whole Nation Of Islam. Just STFU

          • PTK

            nice try. you need more people.

          • marty mcfly

            No I dont. You named a gang from one city in america that identified their own self as a mafia, they did not say that they were the arm of the NOI, they called themselves th Black Mafia and the only repped one city in a country with a thousand cities and the NOI has members all over the country so one gang can not from Philly is not the whole NOI that has been around since the 1930s. The gang you named didnt even last for one generation. Again. FOH

          • PTK

            can you even read? is someone reading this for you? maybe they forgot to read you the part where they called themselves the muslim mafia or that most of their members were from the noi or that they got their dope from ny and carried out hits outside of philly.

          • marty mcfly

            Yeah and anytime a crew makes a distinction in name? Its a good chance what they are indicating is their moving on their own accord aside from the organizations connected to them. The NOI never had the word “mafia” in their name. These guys from Philly put that their as a representation of their own activity. and again. Naming one gang is not gonna speak for the larger majority. Most of the people in the NOI from other places around the country would not even know who you were talking about if you mentioned a crew from Philly a generation ago. Again dummy. The NOI is bigger then one gang in one city and is not a crime syndicate based outta Philly. Which is obviously the case since they named their own crew the Black Mafia. The fucking Trench Coat Mafia was two white boys in the country so is the whole christian community around the country of a nation of assassins and goons because of two white boys? FOH. One gang in Philly does not mean that the NOI is an organization of assassins and goons… It means those guys in Philly did what they wanted to do outside of the teachings of the NOI

          • PTK

            yup, the noi is many gangs from many cities.

          • marty mcfly

            That the FBI, CIA, police and the government itself has never been able to prove. You aint got the answers either.

          • PTK

            false annnd false.

          • marty mcfly

            No thats true. Now have they tried to make cases? Of course but as an organization they have yet to prove the NOI is a criminal organization as a whole. In 80s that has NEVER been proven.

          • PTK

            that’s not how RICO works.

          • marty mcfly

            Put it like this, if what your saying is true? Then you need to take that to the FBI and see if you can get a fortune for your information because the FBI and the CIA have been trying to build cases against the NOI for more then 50 years now and have not been able to prove that the NOI is really a criminal organization who’s intention is to murder black people. They been able to prove that certain people within the organization have been involved in murders and violence but they have never been able to prove that the whole damn movement is a nation of “assassins and goons” Like you have done more then the whole american government if you can prove what your saying in court and if its true then the NOI would be the only organization that has ever existed in american history that were a nation of assassins and goons. Smh

          • PTK

            LMAO are you stupid? do you know how many bids these guys have done? the only person that doesn’t know is you.

          • marty mcfly

            You wasn’t talking about bids you was saying (or implying) that the Nation Of Islam is assassins and goons. Again, even with that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY did not go to Jail and do bids. If that was the case, it would be one of the most reported stories in american history. Most of the people who have come through the NOI, just went on and lived their lives like everyday people. If they was all going to jail in any era, america would stop everything and report on that immediately but thats not what happened. Alot of members did go to jail, but how many christian americans have been locked up in Jail? Are they all assassins and goons? Of course not.

          • marty mcfly

            Take your case to court then. If you can prove the NOI is really a nation of assassins and goons? That will be the biggest criminal case ever tried. There would be more members then the fucking mafia going to jail if what your saying is true. For the last few decades they have had the FBI try and make that case and they have failed overall.

          • PTK

            the noi is washed up, so are you. kill yourself.

          • marty mcfly

            The NOI is an historical organization. You? Not so much and now your mad. Eat a dick bitch

          • PTK

            historical in terms of how many murderers and child molesters they could get in one place

          • marty mcfly

            The ladder in which is just you speaking on your own life experience but hey thats not nobody else’s problem. As far as murders go? Some cities in america produce more murders in one year then the NOI did in 80 years. You still lose.

          • PTK

            If the only way you can feel good about your boys is by comparing them to a whole city of murderers and child molesters…I guess. I guess you could say they never killed as many as hitler either.

          • marty mcfly

            Your the one making outlandish comparisons. Your talking about child molestation because YOU probably are a child molester. You sound like a sick fuck anyway. Again dumbass, I have used the words OVERWHELMING MAJORITY a number of times for a reason but apparently your too stupid to understand. Now the fucking united states government has been investigating the NOI for generations now. They have come to the conclusion that the actions of a few do not represent the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of the NOI. What that means is the murders that have happened to not represent the whole nation. The same way as when a christian commits a murder, that does not represent the whole christian community. The comparisons im making is to also make a point. Almost every known crime organization and gang such as the KKK, or MS 13, or the bloods, crips etc… have committed more murders in one year then the NOI has done in 80 fucking years. Less then 1% of any events put together by the NOI or involve the NOI break out into violence. The NOI make it their duty to keep the peace, they do not produce the violence. This is why for generations now, they have consistently taught against violence, against murder and they have ended many beefs and gang warfare in the streets. Again sir, for the last 80 years. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE NOI ARE EVERYDAY PEOPLE THAT LIVE NORMAL LIVES. They are not assassins and goons.

          • PTK

            too bad they don’t practice what they preach.

          • marty mcfly

            On top of that if what your saying is true then you would’ve victims of NOI murders all over the place but instead you have people showing up at NOI events and vowing to keep the peace. You have gangs showing up to NOI events and shaking hands with gang members from the other side and establishing peace. Like that does not sound like the actions of an organization thats running around killing people. If thats what the NOI wanted to do they could’ve just shot the people showing up in their own temples and churches but thats not what the NOI is about.

          • marty mcfly

            and I didnt make any speculation about the NOI you dumb fuck. YOU did. You said the NOI are really assassins and goons, smh. I said the actions of a few doesn’t mean thats what the overwhelming majority of people in the NOI are about. There have been people who are christians that have killed people so do they represent every christian in america? Of course not

          • PTK

            everything you’ve said is speculation. you have no facts, just knee-jerk reactions. everything i’ve said is searchable on google if you’re not too afraid of tarnishing your heroes. come back when you got some facts mane.

          • marty mcfly

            See what your doing is pretending to be stupid so that why you can say whatever. The basic premise of what im saying is The NOI is an organization that spread all over the country and has had numbers all over the country for generations now. Again fool, the actions of a few does not suggest that the overwhelming majority of a whole nation is an organization of “assassins and goons”. Your building a whole argument based on the ridiculously stupid idea that because there were some incidents of murder and violence from within the NOI that it somehow represents EVERY MEMBER OF THE NOI as being a violent killer or something. The ridiculous approach to your argument is stupid and you know it but you just pretend to be stupid. Again, you have christianity in america correct? Is every christian in america an assassin and goon because there has been murders in the past committed by christians? NO

          • PTK

            do they have assassins or not? do they have goons or not? you started this by claiming they never killed or harmed anybody and never sold drugs when you didn’t know what you were talking about. please show me where the actions of these killers has been condemned by the noi.

          • marty mcfly

            THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE NOI ARE NOT ASSASSINS AND GOONS. THATS WHAT I SAID BECAUSE ITS A FACTUAL STATEMENT.

          • PTK

            It’s a yes or no question. and unless you edited recently all you have to do is go to the top of the page.

          • marty mcfly

            What I said is undeniable FACT. YES the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of “these people” have never killed anybody. That simple statement is based in FACT and there’s no getting around it.

          • marty mcfly

            I never said a few murders here and there are acceptable (im saying the actions of a few dont speak for the LARGER MAJORITY) but what your saying sounds like you suggesting that the NOI is a death squad that has run through america murdering everybody in sight and flooding the streets with drugs during a time when black people were under a microscope everyday. Now your saying a few murders here and there? A few comments ago you were talking like the NOI was a walking black Pearl Harbor/911 on america soil. GTFOHWTBS

          • PTK

            What would you call it when a group from more than one NOI temple organizes themselves to kill a man’s entire family, including pregnant women and babies? Sounds like a deaths quad to me.

          • marty mcfly

            Id call that an open and shut case that could easily be proven in court. Specifically who are you talking about and what man had his entire family killed?

          • PTK

            Do the knowledge lame.

          • marty mcfly

            Your talking right now so im am doing the knowledge. Specifically what are the names of the entire family that was all murdered by an organized effort from several temples? Your telling me do the knowledge and you give me all this talking and give me no specifics? Damn near everything you say is some generalization or assumption or some shit like well Malcolm was murdered… Yeah I know that much fukboy but what entire family was murdered by the NOI?

          • PTK

            if i let you tell it nothing ever happened, so i’ll just let you google it.

          • marty mcfly

            Exactly. You dont know shit about what your talking about. So you go google something and thats “common sense” cause if the NOI was what your describing them to be? We wouldn’t even be talking about it now because every piece of news in the world period would have described the NOI the you way you just did but that never happened. Nine times outta ten the only people making such generalizations are people with white faces that represent some kinda law enforcement with a whole bunch of theories but very little proof of anything.

          • PTK

            ok

          • marty mcfly

            What murders in prison and how do you that the NOI have killed a large amount of people in prison. Are you locked up? Did you see the NOI in prison murder a whole bunch of people or are you just talking? Your asking me how did these murders happen? What murders are you talking about? Cause millions of people have been murder in United States history so who and what murders are you talking about? You say you got some large amount of murders they have committed so make your list. I could tell you, there are multiple gangs out here that dont even have 10% of the members that the NOI have that have murder way more then the NOI ever had and have done it in one generation let alone 3 or 4.

          • PTK

            do the knowledge. stop making excuses for them. the information is out there if you want it.

          • marty mcfly

            I know the knowledge and what I do know is that the NOI is not an organization of “assassins and goons”… Your the only person that believes that. Again and hopefully you get this basic point… THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE NOI HAVE NEVER KILLED ANYBODY AND LIVE NORMAL AND DECENT LIVES LIKE EVERYDAY PEOPLE IN AMERICA. The actions of a few do not paint the picture for the LARGER MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.

          • PTK

            Killing Malcolm X in and of itself is an indictment of the entire nation of islam. Anyone that stood by Farrakhan or Elijah while that shit was going on is complicit. But we don’t have to view that tragedy in isolation because there are plenty of murders to go along with it.

          • marty mcfly

            Yes and thats why that particular murder has been looked at for decades from every different viewpoint possible. The reason people still stood and still stand in general is because if they themselves did not commit the murder so its only so much they can blame themselves for something they did not do. The people who killed Malcolm are on record as the trigger men. The NOI split in different directions but they are still united in the core values of what they stand for and 99.9% of the NOI is and was against killing another black leader so thats why they still stand. Also because they know common sense says THE ACTIONS OF A FEW ASSASSINS DO NOT REPRESENT THE LARGER MAJORITY OF EVERYDAY PEOPLE. Are you suggesting the NOI have killed a million people? a hundred thousand, ten thousand, a thousand? Like how many murders are you talking about cause I tell you this much, if the NOI has killed more then a hundred people? That would be blown up so bright that the whole globe would see it. The Mob, the Klan, the most deadliest gangs in america have killed a 100x more people then the NOI has ever done because if the NOI was some kinda death squad of goons and assassins like your suggesting? The national guard and the military, the FBI, CIA, police etc… would have ignited a war against the NOI that would’ve been comparable to a Civil War campaign but that never happened. Again, what your suggesting is complete and utterly ridiculous bullshit.

          • marty mcfly

            If you asked most of the people in the Nation Of Islam if they personally were assassins and goons… 99.9% of them would look at you like your crazy. In any organization in which there has been a large number of members for generations… Your gonna find some people that have killed before. They do not represent the larger majority. Smh

          • PTK

            The FOI are goons. They kill people. Most of the people they have killed are black.

          • marty mcfly

            Yeah, like less then 1% of the NOI have actually killed before someone before.

          • PTK

            You have no idea what you’re talking about. The harm they have done to the black community can not be justified. At one point they were thought to be the main drug traffickers in the black community on the east coast.

          • marty mcfly

            GTFOH.

          • PTK

            do the knowledge.

          • marty mcfly

            You first dumbass

          • marty mcfly

            Even if you wanna say the few represent the larger majority? Its not like the Nation Of Islam all get together in america and go around shooting people. Like that makes no sense. What you have is some incidents in the past where people were murdered but how many times has the NOI been around and nobody was killed? Its like a million to one because there have been way more events and different occasions in america where a the NOI was present and no killings or violence occurred. For every one person that has been murdered by someone in the NOI, id say there’s been a thousand people murdered by mafia in america.

          • PTK

            Are you kidding me man? How many murders do I have to type outbefore you stop defending these clowns?

          • marty mcfly

            So what are you saying? I mean you can call it a defense but me saying “The overwhelming majority of “these people” never killed anybody”… Like thats just a true statement period. You talking about facts? Well that is facts. In the last 5 decades there has been more then a million people in the Nation Of Islam and the majority of them are not assassins and goons. Facts

  • Jake Zero

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!

  • PTK

    That’s the biggest shoutout Farrakhan has gotten in 15 years, you thought he was gonna say no?

  • IgnorantWisdom

    Yo Hov he is asking for a chain. Hahaa

  • BisonNation

    the nigga in the far left bottom corner went to Howard University. HU EVERYWHERE!!! haha! U KNOW!

  • Medina2x

    DECENT. Proud to have my X

  • GreenBergs

    blacks are confused, what are yall hebrew israelites, mufuckas that came from africa the motherland, or “children of islam”

    ??? make up your fucking mind

    • marty mcfly

      The middle one, which by default includes the other two.

      • GreenBergs

        No.

        • marty mcfly

          Or not by “default” but as a result. YES. Just based on origin and race, evidence would suggest these people’s originate in Africa.

          • GreenBergs

            Kk.

          • marty mcfly

            Black people for the most part just identify themselves as black. Religious belief aside, there’s no getting around the person you see in the mirror and the color of your own skin. So its really no confusion because black people usually say their black when asked what they are.

    • LONDON

      or maybe you’re a degenerate simpleton.

      • GreenBergs

        Its ok dont worry everything will be fine confused negro..

        • GetReal

          you’re a fucking idiot, just stop commenting you look stupid

    • Vurbz Fenomeno

      lol..being black doesn’t mean you have to pick a specific religion…there are white scientologists, christians, jews. I think you might be confused yourself homie

      • GreenBergs

        Yet yall always seem to identify yourselves as all em when mentioned or brought up you know exactly what im talking about, it isnt possible or rational… its like one day this dude snoop dogg is a dude from long beach then he becomes a rastafarian from jamaica..lol

        • Vurbz Fenomeno

          lol….how does being from a location equate to a religion…long beach and rastafarian are not comparable..its like saying one minute i’m from boston the next minute i’m Muslim…i think you’re a lil confused…and another thing is that snoop never said he was from jamaica…but FYI his mom is jamaican

    • Cmon Son

      Son just compared a geographic area to two religions and thought he made a point.

    • Critical Thought

      Whites are confused- what are they, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, muslims, hindus, pagans, atheists, agnostics, mormans, aliens?

      All races are represented among most of the faiths of the world. Mind ya business

  • Accounts

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  • ERIQ D.

    where’s the new 50 Cent record?

  • ERIQ D.

    So is Jay Electronica considered to be exalted? one who doesn’t bleed?….Souls, Symbols and Sacraments can’t escape mortality.

  • NYC Shawty

    salute for making those kids dress like clowns in a suits on a hot day

    • Honestly

      salute your own ignorance, then eradicate it

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    NOBODY CARES!!!! JUST PUT OUT A FUCKIN’ ALBUM ALREADY!!!!

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