Hip-Hop Confessions: Cold As Ice
I know a hit when I hear it! Read more, after the jump.
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That tweet came from revered music journalist and Rap Radar Guest Lister, Paul Cantor. Over the years, Robby V. has evolved into a hip-hop punch line. But compared to most of the ka-ka I hear daily, his flow—or music for that matter, weren’t that bad. In fact, l still say “Ice Ice Baby” is a great hip-hop single.
Now before any “purists” choke on a Chew Stick, how many can honestly say that they’ve listened to To The Extreme? Thought not. Truthfully, most of us are probably basing his entire career off that one record. Now, I’m not touting Mr. Van Winkle as the second coming of Rakim, but why all the criticism? Perhaps, bad timing. Though “Ice Ice Baby” was a commercial success, the record didn’t have a place in the land of gangsta rap and Afrocentrism. I guarantee if that song were released today, folks would say, “He’s too lyrical.” Wouldn’t that be some ironic shit?
But Vanilla isn’t without faults. After all, this is the same guy that said his beat was different from Queens.’ And of course, there was that whole Suge thing. But I think it’s about time we stop leaving Ice out to thaw. As long as shitty popular acts like Shawty Lo and Ron Browz (amongst others) continue to record, there’s plenty of room left at the bottom of the totem. Word to ya mutha.
AMEN. Not to say Vanilla Ice was DOPE or anything, but when we are talking about the all-around ‘dumbing-down’ of hip-hop, he’s eons ahead of a lot of the dreck in current rotation. At least he had some form of entertainment value. His main fault was opening his trap and trying to prove his ‘realness’. He shoulda just kept dancing…
I was ten but still.
WHAT ITS LIKE…..
HAVIN A RONI….
WHAT ITS LIKE…..
HAVIN A RONI….
*dies dies dies*
I guarantee if that song were released today, folks would say, “He’s too lyrical.” Wouldn’t that be some ironic shit?
^^ That is too real. WOW
And yes I bought that album and listened to it when it came out.
I was never down with the VIP Posse. Ever.
In the great hip hop beef of ’91, I was one hunnid percent in Hammer’s corner. And that’s real. Geez I wish I was never 13.
I actually bought and listened to the album “II The Extreme” so I get where you are coming from. You’re so right, “Ice Ice Baby” would be the most lyrical dance song out right now. There are better lyrics in that than Eminem’s “We Made You” and I say that as an Em fan. You hit the nail on the head.
Why does her style remind of ME Phi Me , the early 90s rappers lol.
Things must be looked at in proper context. This was not lyrical for its time (Read: 1990) and his style was in no way original (which was another must) except this dude was white and shitty. It seemed like he got all this attention because he was white, not because he was any good. This tape, that’s right a tape, was given to me as a Christmas gift and I remember thinking it was garbage. My sister loved this tape and that’s who it was meant for. Go back to that era and I’d still take N.W.A., D.O.C., Too $hort, Boogie Down Productions or Public Enemy, etc. over this mess. If this shit were released today, it would sound dated.
I feel you; today rappers want to validate mess for artistry, when in fact they should just be satisfied as mess. you need both in the mix of things; don’t try to be something your not.
Of course that shit was a hit! And considering how he fell off (not telling the truth about blah blah whateva…) Mothafuckas is about to make T(rick)F(awse)a platinum seller, (I can feel that shit commin)
Vanilla, (picture said like Chris Kattan on vh1 when Ice went beserker)is WELCOME to this modern day rap shit, when its all said and done Vanilla should end up lookin like the crown prince of this sheeeit!
Why do you think Suge paid him a visit?? Not to say you weren’t aware (I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt) but Suge’s first signed artist was a cat by the name of Chocolate. He was from Dallas, if I’m not mistaken, as was Robby, and he penned a few rhymes for Van Winkle. One of them being the infamous single, “Ice Ice Baby.” He never saw a royalty check, so, Suge took it upon himself to come to Chocolate’s aid. In return for not getting dumped off that balcony, Robby signed over the publishing to that jawn. And hence, Death Row Records. Some food for thought.
Who actually remembers BET playing “Play That Funky Music” first? Who rememebers when his Wrap/Ichiban LP “Hooked” was in stores? Who remembers when BET played “Ice Ice Baby” FIRST. Then every video show on the planet followed suit? Who remembers SBK Records and them re-packaging “Hooked” as “To The Extreme”?
*Raises hand*
One.
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