VH1 Famous Crime Scene: Tupac Shakur
February 13, 2010 @ 8:26 AM EST
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Missed this yesterday. Let’s watch and see if there’s something new to learn. R.I.P. Pac.
Yo man don’t forget about biggie’s episod. . R.i.P 2PAC ND BIG
cmon now we all kno Crips killed Biggie & Pac..
RIP
None of the outlaws was out there that night Pac was mad at them from not coming threw If you dont belive me Watch T.H.U.G Angel dvd
this video is a fucking lie who paid these cowards to lie for Sugh again!!!!!!
bloods killed Biggie in Suges order, search about the Rampart Scandal and you’ll see
pretty good watch to be honest..
Suge still had something to do with his shooting.
The pieces fit perfectly.
How come Suge didn’t get killed too? He was literally right next to him. He only got grazed by a bullet. If the person just straight fired his shit in the car, Suge’s ass wouldn’t be here lieing about shit.
The reason why Yaki Kadafi got killed it supposedly an “Accident” But it wasn’t. He seen who the shooter was and knew it was someone that rolled with Suge Knight. Suge didn’t drive to the hospital. Suge will not say who shot Tupac(Claims he doesn’t know but he does he’s just covering his own ass.) It might sound crazy, but seriously how can someone not make this connection?
this whole shit makes me sick to my stomach. i still can’t look at that nigga and be comfortable with the thought of him being gone. fuck hip hop, dude was gonna be more and more important for articulating the betterment of our youth at large…and who knows, if he got to turn 40, like jay did in dec. can’t imagine.
but yo, i think pretty plainly the crips were behind the shooting. suge refused to speak so the pressure on him let up, khadafi agreeing to speak got him murked, and suge and the bloods sought justice in the streets cuz they knew there would be none in the “justice” system. this is how orlando gets popped eventually. these niggas don’t trust police, they’d rather take shit into their own hands, lives for lives.
biggie…i don’t know. he wasn’t even gang related or a real street nigga. Pac was loved by the HOOD out west. the HOOD, in the ghettoes. he was like niggas young malcolm x out there. i think its a toss up who killed biggie. but got damn, he shoulda know better than to be out in cali like shit was sweet. the only reason he didn’t know how hot it was is cuz he wasn’t that type of nigga. he was just a rapper from bk with NO west coast connections whatsoever. the whole shit is just fucked up. RIP to both them niggas tho peace
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Biggie wasnt a real street nigga?
at least he didnt have to go to art school to learn how to be a gangsta…..
tupac was a ballerina before he became “malcom x jr.”
and big neva got fucked in the ass lmao
r.i.p biggs and pac’
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Yeah @ Nathaniel, you’re a fool if you believe Tupac wasn’t anything more than a frustrated WANNABE gangster. BIG on the other chance was a very genuine thug. These are things to idolize but they’re facts. BIG was probably one of the few rappers that some of the things said he was true. Also, I don’t see why Suge would set up Pac and then sit right next to him while the shooting happened, especially when a bullet grazed him when had it been a couple inches more it could’ve killed him. Haven’t watched the clip . . . I’ll watch it later.
These AREN’T* things to idolize . . .
I swear I miss this nigga Pac….on some real shit!! The only artist I can listen to and be like ; damn…
R.I.P to the GREATEST
When I was younger I thought Suge had something to do with Pac dying, but that’s some bullshit. I think Pac died, because he was playin’ with the streets too much. He was just the 1st rapper of his stature to get caught up. TI almost got rocked when his boy Philant got killed, Big L got killed, Jam Master Jay got killed, and Freaky Tah.
People die in the streets everyday-
We all know some people on the west coast know what happened. Even Suge by now im sure he knows too!!
and that nigga Orlando got got!!
anyway Rest In Peace Pac
Rest In Peace 2Pac!
@ Bigg John if you think tupac wasnt a real street nigga just because he went to a performing art school, ur ass is truly a dummy.. you acting like pac was going back to a well heated mansion in the suburb after school.. Nooo he was going back home to a place no heat, no food, the same condition a typical young black male was going thru in the “HOOD” at the time, he was just bless to be able to have a chance to get a better education at the time, and a slight escape from the harsh realty of the hood life and education for a while.
It is well known within certain communities in LA that Tupac died as a result of involving himself in a gang dispute. No record industry beef was responsible for this.
Also, to everybody in LA—–can you please gangbang on the cops and not your peers. Pac would like that. Thanks.
To further comment I’ll add the following as to why ‘Pac was nothing more than a manipulative fraudulent criminal.
1) The question we all need to ask ourselves when these rappers post NWA talk about criminal activity in their songs: What legitimate gangster would air out his CURRENT lifestyle through a form of entertainment that is heavily listened to by all audiences? The answer is simple really. I don’t think I need to say it for you.
2) He’s [Pac] a very emotional/sensitive individual and that’s evident with his expression through songs, his tirades in the last three/four years of his life and his interviews at a young age. Drastic difference between the 2Pac at age 18 and the one four years later. While he may have had a rough upbringing nothing about his childhood suggest he was ever involved with the “street life”. To the average person it’s obvious that his “gangster behavior” is nothing more than an act. He is someone that is easily influenced by his peers. You see a softer more kind side in his behavior as a youth because his mother sheltered him from the streets and had him sent to an Arts school. Once he started his musical career you can tell by who he was associating with was starting to mold a new thinking pattern for Shakur. He didn’t commit crimes. He hung around with people that did. He knew that his music touched those of the street life, he knew they respected him for his music. This allowed Shakur to start to behave as what he fantasized, what he desired to be. A feared, womanizing, respected “thug”. He knew that he could say/do whatever he felt because 9 times out 10 nothing would happen. He knew that by aligning himself with legitimate “thugs” he could come off as bad as he wanted. This however, is what lead to his downfall. He was so delusional, so arrogant he thought he was on top of the world. At heart he showed to have some good intentions but manly it’s his brain that was his worst enemy.
I don’t see anything wrong with wanting to remember Pac for the legend he was . . . as a musician. But, to respect or idolize for what he did outside of music is a sin in itself. He chose to live a different lifestyle and thought he could avoid the consequences. It’s sad because when these kids grow up without a father figure and start to listen to hip hop and they find out who he [Pac] was and watch his antics they want to replicate it and well I don’t think I need to say what the problem with that is.
Sad, sad world.
@James…Khadafi got murked in his hometown projects in Orange. He had a vest on when it happened cuz he knew they were out for him. Had to be someone with power cuz those projects were furious before they tore en down. He flew to NJ as soon as he could walk out the hospital cuz he knew what we still don’t. Fluck Suge even if he didn’t have anything to do with them getting killed cuz he plays the “I don’t know nothing” role like we believe him.
i think pac getting killed was just cause & effect…not knowing the repercussions of certain actions & behavior.he lived the thug life..the gang affiliation,these things are part of the game.the romance of living up to a rep an image brought to life & exaggerated by the music which spoke the nature of shakur & the people he’s encountered in his life.With that said..some people will call you on the words an artist composes to sell his marketed music.if your a gangster rapper those real gangsters are gonna test your authenticity being that you’ve assigned yourself there representative.The problem that i saw in that era & still now is an entertainer not being able to seperate entertainment from real life & an industry sets it up to be that way.i never understood street credibility & the connection to good hip hop music..yes i understand hardcore rap but alot of artist true success lays when they aim to make universal good music.mastering the art of hip hop of rap in its current form & adding to it is what embodies”the greats”…everything else additives.what is a rapper??? holla if you feel me!!!!!!!!
When keeping it real goes wrong!! Y’all niggaz stop crying like bitches, it is what it is THEY DEAD & AINT COMING BACK!! “Stop Snitching” isn’t that the law? Lol…
DAMN I MISSED THIS TOO PROPS FOR POSTING THIS CANT WAIT FOR THE BIGGIE EPISODE TO AIR
AS FOR THE TUPAC KILLING JUST LIKE THE BIGGIE ONE I DON’T THINK IT WILL EVER BE SOLVED CAUSE OF THAT NO SNITCHING POLICY PEOPLE HAVE, SO YOU CANT BASICALLY GO NO WHERE WITHOUT ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING YOU GOT NO GROUNDS TO WORK ON AND ON TOP OF THAT THE POLICE KNOW THEY FUCKED UP SO THEY DON’T WANNA GIVE THIS CASE ANY SHINE CAUSE IT MAKES THEM LOOK BAD CAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE WENT AFTER THE CAR AND SPOKE TO THE WITNESSES SOONER SO IT WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO BE A MYSTERY AS TO WHO KILLED PAC.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT WAS THE CRIPS SEEKING REVENGE FOR THE ORLANDO BEATING BUT THEIRS ALWAYS THAT THOUGHT IN MY HEAD IT WAS SUGE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MOTHERFUCKER THAT JUST HAS GUILTY WRITTEN ALL OVER HIS FACE AN THEN WE CAN EVEN GO FURTHER AND SAY IT WAS THE ILLUMINATI FOR PAC SAYING KILLUMINATI YOU NEVER KNOW
I LIKE HOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY THIS “I DONT KNOW” CARD… LIKE COME ON NOW ITS 2010 & SOME PPL STILL WANT TO PLAY STUPID ….. I KNOW THERE’S ALEAST 1 PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN! BUT I GUESS SOME SHIT WE JUST AREN’T SUPPOSE TO KNOW RIGHT?? & SUGE JUST GIVES ME A BAD FEELING HE JUST LOOK 2 DAMN GUILTY FOR ME … HE KNOWS SOMETHING WE DONT KNOW I DONT CARE WHAT HE SAYS…
“i think pac getting killed was just cause & effect…not knowing the repercussions of certain actions & behavior.he lived the thug life..the gang affiliation,these things are part of the game.the romance of living up to a rep an image brought to life & exaggerated by the music which spoke the nature of shakur & the people he’s encountered in his life.”
^ PREACHHH!!!!!!!! lol and who ever sayin Pac was a wannabe gangsta is an idiot.. he was a thug.. guess ppl dont actually listen to his music
yea that orlando nigga killed him you can tell by the look on his face when he said I feel bad for him
I think Suge had Biggie killed or he knew that it was going down i think diddy knew for some reason too
niggas take that stop snitching shit too far man my brodie get shot im telling the police everything possible to get the nigga locced up
when you kill a nigga thats letting them out the easy way I would rather have a nigga suffer send a nigga to jail or shoot a nigga in they spine make them think about what they did
family is family if theres something that can help find the person who shot yo family member before another 1 of yo family get shot by them again why not
fucc any nigga on here dissing Pac Pac was one of the realest rappers alive niggas act like he hid the fact that he went to art school and he wasnt no dealer he says this stuff on his own we didnt just find out by pictures on summer jam screens or Smoking Gun reports
Pac and Em are the realest rappers period becuz they tell the truth they not living in fantasy land Biggie claim he was running the streets whereas he wasnt even running niggas on his blocc Biggie wasnt no Big time drug dealer he rapped about Neither was Jay but they got on records like they was frank lucas and shit
Pac came out and said I went to an art school I tried drug dealing but the shit didnt work I like white people music and poetry he told us this he reveal his personal life good and bad not just the good he told us shit people wouldnt let people know like his moms on cracc I would never let a nigga kno my moms on cracc
niggas act like Pac hid the fact he was intelligent basically but he was also a hot head everybody got a temper
at least he not claiming Gangs where he not from and kissing men pretending to be apart of some blacc MOb
At least he not rapping about Coke and it turns out he was a CO
At least he not saying he use to sling cracc then it turn out nigga was a Jehovah Witness passing out watchtowers(Ja Rule) LOL
he said this shit in his rhymes he never hid who he was like most of these niggas yall cosign
fuccing ricc ross is a lied to yall niggas then comes out and tell the truth after lying twice and he one of the realest Rappers in The Game GTFOH Niggas
yall niggas need to stop confusing real with street just becuz you street or H60D like ya boi it dont mean that you real a real nigga is a nigga that holds his tongue for nobody and let everything be known how he feel half of the streets and the hoods is filled with fake niggas and foofer ass nigga like yoself Big John and Barry Washington Cuz half the shit yall say on here yall wouldnt have said to Pac Face suge Face or nobody face but Mac’s
Its real niggas thats in College its real niggas everywhere not just cuz you dont snitch and smoke kush and sell cracc all day Cuz yall niggas wouldnt know what a real nigga is becuz yall momz raise yall to be a bunch of bitches talk behind baccs and shit that hair salon talk
Im sorry for the long paragraph but im tired of niggas thinking becuz they from the hood they real every real nigga know the hood is filled with fake niggas
This all doesn’t matter, what matter is…if suge didn’t not kill him, why didn’t his so called friends put out a 9mm and shoot the motherfucker before killin tupac, or at least they coulda shot the car to stop it!!thats weird man, because the cops always do that, and GANGS ARE SCARED OF IT!!!GTFOH!!if i was there even if i wasn’t pac’s friend i would at least try to stop the murderers car!!this is fucked up man, and pac knew he was going to die anyway!!
AND Its funny because everybody is worried about wayne!!!he’s in jail, what worst than gettin raped and kissing his father could happen to him…yes ladies and gentlemen he got raped like a bitch!!
@ Will
CO THE FUCK SIGN!!!
PAC was as real as they came. Yeah, he wasn’t as nice as BIG but he was the REALEST n!99@$ to ever touch the mic! Em and DMX r the only other cats to REALLY bare their soul on record. PAC is the Marvin Gaye and Bob Marley of r time.
@ will and da business
GTFOH
pac was as real as they come?
you ever seen the chapelle show when keepin it real goes wrong?
i guess ur boy tupac kept it REAL and got fuckin killed cuz he was a REAL HOOD NIGGA
smh as the these dumb asses idolizing this nigga….
this nigga was a fraud talking like he new the streets and shit
c’mon even dr. dre was a fuckin fairy before he was hardcore nwa dre, eazy wasnt no gangsta
shit he couldnt eve write his own lines, that was all cube…
u guys act like music is real life….
anyone can claim to be the realist, tattoo “THUG LIFE” on their stomach, and make a diss record talk in bout fuckin peoples wives, but dam did u no him personally? talkin like he’s god..
i mean i like pac….. biggies my man but shit even i new after ready to die he stopped giving a shit and pretended to be a fuckin black mafioso and only cared bout the dough….
i respect biggie cuz he didnt have to make diss song mentioning peoples names, he would murk you subliminally, like a REAL STREET NIGGA……
idk man im big on the Wu but i new that they werent no ninjas, the was was just 9 hungry dudes trying to make some dough off of music……
same shit wit pac just a hungry young black dude tryin to play a role and make some dough so he could feed himself and his moms…
but where he fucked up was he started to believe his own lie… deep down pac new he wasnt no hardcore thug thats why he rolled wit suge, cuz he felt protected and love, he was soft man… but that not to knock him as an mc he was talented as fuck but he got caught up in his thug persona just like how big got caught up in his coke kingpin/mafia phase…..
i respect pac but i think he fucked up his own shit and got biggs killed 4 nuttin
R.i.P pac’ and biggs
to you idiots up there. i never said anything about “a real street nigga” in relation to pac. i said the west coast ghettos/hoods whatever loved that nigga. he put REAL time into the lives of those…elementary schools, middle and high, magnet programs, just in the streets in general. he really loved niggas…he didn’t just shout out hoods. he really spent time trying to build. lots of it.
all this other shit yall talking is bullshit.
@ John
First of all pump ur breaks homie, no need for the disrespect. I’m not here to beef w/ no n!99@ on a website, everyone here is entitled to their opinion.
Besides, I think u missed the point of what Will was sayin’. Yeah, if u just stratched the surface of Pac’s music u’d think he was just an hot headed thug. But he was definitely DEEPER than that, dude had purpose. He wasn’t rappin’ get to rap.
Dude was an activist for the hood, he spoke for the voiceless. Ppl FELT Pac for his heart felt music. Songs like PAPPA’s GONE, TRAPED, BRANDA GOT A BABY, CHANGE, and countless others. I agree that he wasn’t the best lyrically, but it didn’t matter bcuz he spoke the TRUTH!!! More ppl RELATED TO PAC bcuz he spoke on REAL issues.
If that doesn’t make him REAL, than idk what does.
r.i.p pac may more music live on forever big homie!
@ BIG JOHN
Nobody is acting like cuz is a god but you on here acting like Pac was being something he wasnt he revealed everything in his life to us he didnt lie about going to private schools and being a ballet dancer listen Carefully you fuccing idiot
“HES THE ONE WHO TOLD US HE DI BALLET AND ALL THAT SHIT HE DIDNT HIDE THE FACT HE WENT TO AN ART SCHOOL OR DID BALLET HE TOLD US THIS HIMSELF”
how many fuccing times do i have to say it compared to these rappers today where you find who they really are thru Smoking Gun and mistreated unpaid ex- Friends there is no rapper realer than Pac he says himself that he didnt start this thuglifestyle until he got treated like a thug for that Jay Walking Beatdown that would fucc up my way of living too if im not a thug and i still get treated like one and no justice is served
but hes real becuz he told us about everything in his life everything he left out nothing while niggas Like Ross and Wayne leave out shit and lie abot shit all the time and yall give them a pass
If pac wouldve never told us about him going to performing arts school and doing ballet nigga you wouldnt even known
he was the undissable rapper Jay-Z couldnt put Pac in tights on a Summer Jam Screen becuz the pics had already been revealed by Tupac himself
he obvious was a thug what rapper besides Em Or Dmx do you think is crazy enough to shoot a cop in the ass a cop who wasnt bothering him but bothering somebody else and live to tell about it LOL Pac was a thug after he got his ass whooped for that Jay Walking Shit but you cant discredit dude at all he told us everything about his life he never hid anything there were no hidden secrets from Pac
Will i think ur a necrophiliac… why dont u go fuck his corpse
You dumb ass niggaz Orlando “Baby Lane” Anderson from Southside Compton Crips shot up 2pac and Suge’s car for the jumping he recieved at the MGM a few hours earlier. Suge had nothing to do with it. Couple of days later there was a gang feud between Mob piru’s and Southside Crips in Compton. David Mack former LAPD who was arrested later for bank robbery hired a hitman with the money he got from the1st couple successful bank robberies.
Big John succ a cocc nigga you obvious obsessed you keep commenting like i said nigga you would never take that tone with me face to face cuz
Barry Washington…… If you put some of time you took in voicing your dumb ass illogical opinion on this in to writing something constructive you might be able to do something with your life. None of you dumb muthafuckas knew Tupac or Biggie personally so none of you can really say shit. You only go by wat the media tells you, or what you see online. And for your information, you claim Biggie was a real street nigga right??? But where was he from??Claiming to be raised in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn, he actually grew up in neighboring Clinton Hill.
Tupac is ‘Black Jesus’ no doubt just like the song says. A ‘saint for us in the ghetto to help carry us through.’
Was on the brink on changing the world.
Look what happened to hip-hop after 96. Became all bling bling w no substance and now looking at 106 and Park, these rappers now are literally clowns. Point blank he died because he was trying to unify the ghetto and was gaining to much power. His mom raised him to be the black prince and for any of us living at that time, we wouldve done anything Pac asked us to do. March, vote, whatever it took for change.
Suge killing him? You see where those bullets hit? Which one of us going to be in a car for that? Hell naw.
Its on us to know teach the younger generation as Pac would’ve wanted us to. He was trying to get us to break out of the matrix. My lil bro is 17 and just now understanding Pac and getting away from todays hip-hop.
RIP Makaveli the Don. You’ll always live on.
jbx
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[…] This slipped under our radar. Last week, VH1’s new series, Famous Crime Scene aired their Notorious B.I.G. episode where they reenact the night Biggie was gunned down in L.A. and provide us with an in-depth look into investigation. 13 years later, the murder of the Christopher Wallace is still unsolved. And if you missed, Tupac’s episode, catch up here. […]
[…] This slipped under our radar. Last week, VH1’s new series, Famous Crime Scene aired their Notorious B.I.G. episode where they reenact the night Biggie was gunned down in L.A. and provide us with an in-depth look into the investigation. 13 years later, the murder of the Christopher Wallace is still unsolved. And if you missed, Tupac’s episode, catch up here. […]
RIP Big AND Pac. Pac my #1 all time, Big my #2 all time, short difference between them to me.
Fuck all the bullshit 4 real, yall all sound corny. It’s that HOOD and that STREET bullshit with a capital BULLSHIT that got black people, poor people, anyone in poverty, hell any of the lower class, it’s the ignorant ass mentality that got us staying in the positions we’re still in today.
And when anyone with a voice comes along to try and preach and expose the problems and help us out of our wreck, yall motherfuckers clown em for not bein HOOD and STREET.
Man, f*ck life. I was bumpin All Eyez On Me like the day before last too.
[…] This slipped under our radar. Last week, VH1’s new series, Famous Crime Scene aired their Notorious B.I.G. episode where they reenact the night Biggie was gunned down in L.A. 13 years later, the murder is still unsolved. If you missed Tupac’s episode, catch up here. […]
2pac was killed gang member orlando of crips due to pac recognizing his as a thief of his death row chain, and stomped him in las vegas , he later came back and shot him in reveange . If you want to kill some one will you be in the same spot as Suge.
Foi o sugi teve um envolvimento muito grande, isso se não foi ele mesmo quem incomendou…é certo que ele teve grande participação no caso!