Nelly Rages Against The Machine
Nelly’s got a chip on his shoulders. Yesterday, he turned to his Twitter account to vent about the lackluster promotion of his current album, 5.0 Apparently, Universal Motown only shipped 200,000 copies. Read up what he had to say below.
A record deal is a 50/50 partnership!As a artist its your job to provide the record company with music that they(record company)can sell! Thing about the partnership is that n the public eye the responsibility is not 50/50!the artist is always the 1who catches 90% of the blame. When a artist doesn’t deliver sufficient material they(artist)gets its budget cut for next album or worse dropped from the label!
So not only is the label ur partner but also disciplinarian and 90% of the time the one who decides if the partnership continues! Nodoubt wen a artist doesn’t deliver a song that does crack top of the charts or even top10 the label is quick to say artist didn’t deliver. So intern the artist must bare the brunt of that failure and take responsibility and consequences as handed out by his or her label!!
So who fault is it when a artist gives the label not only a #1 hit but there first top40 #1 n label history!sell 2mill n singles n 2.5month. Who should be held responsible wen a artist has a history for selling records so its not like a new artist n no1 knows his r her name? Benefit of the doubt: Maybe no1 wants to hear music from that artist?well if that was true then the artist would not have a #1 song! Benefit of the doubt:Maybe no1is checking 4 the artist anymore?Well if that was true then how do u explain selling 2mill singles n 2.5month?
I careless about haters u cant hate on #1song n 2.5mill n singles!but the fact is that some1 need to holdup there end of the partnership! If the music wasn’t good how do u get to #1 and 2.5mill!!but if folks say they didn’t even no wen the album came out????? If u only ship 200thound of an album how many are u f#cking tryen to sell??the artist does control that nor does he or she control marketing. “”5.0″”Every1 luvs da album n say its crazy!So wen u hear folks say they didnt no it was out r there were hardly any n the store!WTF?
KC
Nigga shut up! you sold ya soul a long time ago now you aint sellin you mad at the label news flash its not 2000-04 no more u aint a hot topic in hiphop
Do they teach grammar in Nellyville? This fool makes the whole rap game look bad…SMH.
It really didn’t matter how many records the label shipped it still wasn’t gonna sell. The label obviously knows there no high demand for Nelly anymore so they did the right thing.
Banks got undershipped.
Sold out everywhere over here at NY.
Nelly? not so much
This nigga is blanking! Dam keep bringing up 2.5 mil and #1? Sound like a bitch about it butt i dont blame the bitch! ha 250,0000 what the fuck? They did bank the same way. Create your own label and become the boss if it is this serious than.
200,000? The actually shipped 200,000?? I woulda forecasted 1300 first week.. Be grateful u washed up has been..
@fuck ya life agreed. Ain’t nobody checking for nelly.
Agree ^^^
nigga noone feeling your shit anymore
all them lil justin Bieber crackers brought that shitty song online
be happy with that 2.5 mill downloads paid for
i dont believe that number
You should be happy some corny motherfuckers copped 50,000 copy’s of your shit when a cd that now sells 600,000 in the first week is like selling 2 million in 2010
you aint get the memo people dont buy cds anymore
you ungreatfull country ass nigga this aint 2000
Apparently Nelly did get the memo. Physical cd sales are almost extinct and there is virtually no cd shelf space.
And when a label goes in 50/50 they also expect YOU to use your resouces to promote your album.. You have zero to little presence in the under 25 market. Nobody take you seriously as an artist.. You really havent a had a good verse since “Grillz”..
That “The label ain’t promote my shit” is lame and not even an excuse anymore. You don’t need to promote hit records and great albums.
Nobody gives a shit and the game has changed since you entered in the late 90’s.
Shawn is 1005 correct
i hope nelly reads your post
You know you dudes never bitch about this shit until it happens to your favourite rapper (not saying this nigga is mine, but being a Nas fan, the idea of a venting online letter aint foreign) lol
I get where Nelly is coming from, but at the same time outlets are closing year by year and online is where most people are buying their music from anyway. For the label its a matter of people cost effective and not losing money on unsold physical CDs.
Yeah, there is the risk especially hip-hop that cats go for the free bootleg when downloading, but this guy cant complain about lack of promo when his single has been on the radio all the damn time (compare to some Def Jam artists). If the album is dope the crowd will go to i-tunes.
Look at least your label is putting your album out my nigga. Ask Jeezy and The Game how bad its gotten. People worried about selling first week like that shit still matters. We got a bigger battle on our hands now where our favourite rappers cant even get they albums out, let alone promo and outlets.
this nigga wish he had as many sales as twitter followers
I want the names of the 2million people who bought his single.
Subject matter… Subject Matter… Subject Matter…. What does this man REALLY have to say thats Artistic?… I never had a problem with Nelly but, C’mon now. Why buy a Nelly album in 2010? Waka Flocka Has took the Spot for the Club Songs….. Shit even the album cover looks Uninspired… C’mon man. 5.0? Get the FUCK OUTTA HERE. Idk why but… Shit just made me upset. But some fucking Effort into it…
Same shit EMI did to Lloyd Banks, I think he could have done 80 to 90 easy, but when you only have 12 CD’s per store, the distributor failed on their end of the bargain. So Nelly they didn’t believe in you and same for you Banks. And, in the words of Dave Chappelle “Tough Break Nigga.”
All comments ^^^ are ridiculously accurate.
I would like to mention that Kanye doesn’t have the same video/radio play he’s used to (although it’s picking up), but his album buzz has been crazy in spite it.
Bottom line is you CANNOT BLAME THE LABEL anymore. It’s wack, it’s corny, its dated. Nelly should know better, and be grateful for what he has (radio gig) and stop acting like a spoiled kid who got it’s toys taken away.
I feel him. He just got find a new way to market. Everything is online now…thats probably why they only shipped 200,000….but still thats a low count. Damn….think they setting you up to drop you.
He does know grammar, @LT. It just happens to be country grammar!
LOL AT queens i co sign…nelly fell off along time ago , dogg u aint rap your first album was (was an ill album too ) but go cry to JT or some shit ,….
Nelly never has anything interesting to say. Shut up and retire nigga.
I knew this was coming after the sales came in.. I personally think no one intrested in a nelly album in 2010-2011..
STFU NELLY. STOP BLAMING THE LABELS…..YOU DIDNT SELL SHIEEEEEET.
AND LMFAO @ THIS NIGGA FOR THINKING THE LABELS ACTUALLY CARE BOUT HIM AND THINK THEY’LL HELP HIM…SMH
nigga(s) if yal were in his shoes, ud be upset too…
Bottom line yal talkin bout he shud market his shit better (true) but marketing dont really got shit to do with how many CDs get shipped… I mean if im not mistaken
I didnt even know it came out.
He shoulda did a mixtape.
His last album was sub par and barley sold 230,000 copies after two years! The label did right; Nelly is half the rapper he use to be.
@esquire when was the last time u heard a good 16 or even 8 BARS FROM NELLY DUDE RNB ,. im sure he said he was pissed about not being in the top ten hot mc list like REALLY hes team must big him up like crazy koz they gettin payeddddddd
lol @ So Icey Boy. The nigga sold a million digital downloads. Someone wants to hear his shit. If the label is providing enough product to be purchased the artist cannot be blamed for that.
And this is the epitome of an “artist” being concerned with accolades and other frivolous shit. How about the fact that NOBODY is receiving you music well? Is that a concern? No hate, but gave hip hop a stiff dick when you decided to Hip country on us.. So all of you artist that use Hip Hop as a stepping stool to your “bigger” career, like Eve (Hows that Hollywood plan working?) don’t get mad when Hip Hop forget about you and ain’t supportive of your shit.
@KeV West, that translates to $1Mil in gross funds generated.. Realtivly peanuts in the grand scheme.. Nobody makes money from singles, at least on that level.
see the problem for nelly now is his sales trend speaks for itself, he can still create radio singles, but that’s all he can do. Be glad he made some money from singles, everyone know the youngins buying album these days won’t support an album from an artist that peaked a decade ago. But if he was really hoping to use any momentum from a solo album to push a Lunatics record, that hope is dead and gone. No label gonna promote or distribute that project that he can’t move units as a solo artist.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ONE TIME WONDER. YOU WERE ONE FUCKING MINUTE OF YESTERDAY. NOW, FUCK OUTTA RAP. YOU ARE DESTROYING IT.
Damn i dont see why all the hate. all I read was REAL TALK from Nelly
I stopped checking for Nelly since he came out to begin with, wasnt really my style even during “Country Grammer” days. I respected that era though cause everybody was eating from Hot Boys to Nas to Mos Def, etc. Times changed though.
So what if they only shipped out 200k? He only sold 70k the first week so it doesnt really matter.Nelly is over,done and finished.He was finished since he released that awful brass knuckle bullshit.
Nelly could have done more for his own project. I seen his promo at the Pacman fight in Dallas.
He should have hit the radio stations and release exclusive music to build a bigger buzz, but he didn’t. He put all his eggs on his #1 single to promote the album. That’s his fault. So what if the label only shipped 200k total, son wasn’t selling out, and he never cracked the top ten on intunes at any point. I was surprised he done 60K.
Man i might just cop a copy of it and then when i see him ima slap this nigger with it! Nigger what i look like listening to this shit when its about to be 2011? Im not no dam school girl! Them 50,000 man are they deaf! He better keep selling them nelly fitness video just like dre pushing them beat headphones! Smfh
NELLY DISCOGRAPHY…
1st album = 9 x platinum
2nd album = 6× Platinum
3rd album = 3× Platinum
4th album = Platinum
5th album = Gold
6th = twitter rant “it’s the label’s fault… I’m wack”
NELLY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON’T PUT OUT REAL GOOD MUSIC. YOU DECLINE. IT’S NOT HATE, IT’S THE TRUTH. YOUR LATEST ALBUM COVER TELLS THE WHOLE STORY IN ONE.
Man……this cat sold millions…he got every right to vent. That bein said….he outta know better. He know he aint nobody droppin videos left n right like back n the day, nobody selling over a mill first week no more….and that aint nobody buyin physical cds no more. His label probably looked at his last album sales and said….:”if he sell these, we’ll get behind it”. I dont blame em. Nelly….its the independant mans game now homie. All the loot you made….you shoulda been like Cube by now mane…droppin movies….diversifyin. Either that, or drop somethin MAD HOT so the public gotta get back on ya jock fam.
Damn. Even women aren’t buying his shit anymore. His album “buzz” was silent as hell, I didn’t even realize he had released 5.0. I think too many other club rappers have filled that void. As a woman, I need something more lyrical and Nelly’s “pretty boy sing-a-long raps” are played out. Oh well, tough luck.
@Industry Disk Cleanup
thatss thorough.
and definitely a steady decline, cant deny those facts
50 cent or dmx can’t sell right so nellly don’t worry it just the regular decline that a artist goes through
INDUSTRY DISK CLEANUP says:
Sunday, November 28 2010 at 4:03 PM EST
NELLY DISCOGRAPHY…
1st album = 9 x platinum
2nd album = 6× Platinum
3rd album = 3× Platinum
4th album = Platinum
5th album = Gold
6th = twitter rant “it’s the label’s fault… I’m wack”
Brass knuckles went gold??? that was wack too i dont know how he went gold??
He Should have done that joint album with T.I. he was talking about 2 years ago instead of releasing these last 2 wack albums. The T.I. features are the only reason i check for a nelly album and the last 2 were trash. he thought he could go away and do movies(Longest Yard) and come back, dont these rappers realize there is no coming back from that, look at Ja Rule,DMX, even 50 cent after GRODT movie his album dont sell like they use too either, one exception to the rule almighty king him self marshall, still sorta applies to him though after 8 mile and then Encore and relapse, but he is on fire now . once you go big screen its a wrap it may not happen right away, but you cant really top your best performance.
your career over
travel over seas and get that cracker kung fu money
your done state side nigga
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one of the reason Nelly fell off because that “tip drill” video and he start goin pop
NELLY u suck point blank. U had a good run thank you and good nite.
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HIPHOP JUST TOSS EVERYBODY IN THE GARBAGE FOR THE NEXT NEW THING AN A WHOLE LOTTA PEOPLE JUST MAD CAUSE THEY BROKE JUST CAUSE YOU DONT LIKE NELLYS MUSIC DONT MEAN HE TRASH YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT BUY IT BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER
just like someone said before…..just wait until it happens to your favorite rapper bet your little comments will be different then hahaha.
i aint heard a gud song from nelly in a min. …this is the future rite here
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@Major VA.. No my friend. These MF’ers toss hip hop aside… When Nelly made a country song do really think he’s was worried about Hip Hop and it’s direction? No he wanted paper.. And that’s cool.. And let’s not make it seem like he’s done anything Buzz worthy in yrs. I like Nelly, but game moves on.. Move with it or don’t. Nelly has made enough coin to actually be on his own. Period. And enough coin to not be obligated to make bullshit records to “sell”. He’s one of few that can dictate his artistic integrity.. His music, unlike Jay or Kanye, hasn’t grown. Nothing about him musically has advanced. It’s the same shit. OVER and OVER.
Rap is like boxing.. A young and hungry mans game. Young and hungry fans and young and hungry artist. Melle Mel, Rakim and G Rap got pushed to the side.. What the fuck makes Nelly beyond the natural profession of the game. Poverty is motivated MF’er and Nelly aint ha that type motivation in yrs…. Now go make a country album and see how much “they” support you.
Let’s take the posters off the wall and the Band aids from under our eyes and look at this from a grown stand point.. At no other point in history has it been easier to get your music to fans, legally an illegally, and with that said… When your shit is not taken in by the fans. It’s genuine. They aint fucking with you.. Go make some straight to DVD movies, a la 50 and STFU.
(Stepping off soap box)
@Major.. I didn’t intend that directly you Bro. Just went off on a tangent..
I just came from the mall…shelves was overflowing with 5.0 copies lmao
i hope nelly reads these blogs. its time to hang up the mic
1. How come everytime a artist doesn’t sell “the big bad record company” doesn’t ship enough copies? (Wale, Chris Brown, Nelly)
2. Nelly has a new album?
LOOK MAN HIPHOP HAS TO CHANGE IT CANT STAY STUCK ITS A NEW DAY & TIME HIPHOP IS EVERYWHERE IM OLD SCHOOL 38 MY SON 19 HE LIKES GUCCI MAN I DONT LIKE IT BUT THAT DONT MAKE IT WACK MUSIC IS FOR EVERYBODY HIPHOP ISNT MUSIC ITS A WAY OF LIFE IF WE THROW EVERYONE AWAY WHO DO WE HAVE I CAME FROM WILDSTYLE CRUSH GROOVE AND BEATSTREET MY SON DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT THATS OK THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE
be happy that even some people bought your music man cause this shit is wack.
quit rapping. You are a disgrace to the rap game.
peace
Nelly, you were one of the bests, but guys are right, you haven’t put out anything really good in years. You do the same shit as 50 Cent does, thinking you don’t need to put out great music anymore to stay on the scene because of your name. Not the case.
You and 50 should stop following trends and putting out wack sounding trendy garbage.
This is a trend im seeing quite often with some of our elderstatesmen in hip-hop
Nas
LL
Ghostface
Redman
Method Man
Shyne
Always The Lox
alot of artist go against the grain with their labels
i heard styles once say that he got 7 bills off the album on koch witch to me seems like good money seeing that TLC only recieved .25 off every alum they sold off CrazySexyCool which did numbers like suduko.
so if you have problems with the label go independent
as far as cornell hayes i saw this coming from a mile away
remember when brass knuckles was getting ready to come out and wayne did that wierd ass “speech” about nelly because they were under the same Universal umbrella (you-tube it)
theres just not a market for slow country/hip-hop songs
so what nelly should do is talent scout!! find a young spitter who he can jump on tracks with them to keep his name relevant snoop does it and busta is doing it with reek. peep ghostface and trife or d-block and bully that was one of LL’s downfalls he never put anyone on! . also get a percentage of that good advance money
Also Hip Hop is so disposable and i blame the slave mentality
Madonna has been around for years YEARS and co-signs for gaga who is obiously a carbon copy
however Kim HAS to go at Nicki? kim never put another female on so why go against the future?
the only other time i can recall this in another genre was when MJB went at K. Cole & when Janet puled her titty out because she felt threatened by Beyonce at the superbowl ’04 blacks have this mindset that we have to bring each other down at any cost rather that build a unified front which is just what those anglo saxans in power want
these young cats go at olderheads like they are hogging up space
im waiting for the day some new up and coming rock band takes shots at bono and U2 but it will never happen because there is a respect factor in other genres and what sucess will it bring? but only in hip-hop where beef was used as a promotional tool so much after Jay & Nas its become obsolete
@ NELLY
U SHOULD FEEL VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY FORTUNATE TO BE THIS WACK AND SELL SO MANY RECORDS IN YA CAREER!!!! BE GRATEFUL AND DISAPPEAR!!!! THE END!!!! GOODBYE!!!!
SIDEBAR: I HATE TWITTER!!!!
DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!
@KnaledgeBorn…cosign
First Off: Nelly sold 63,475 Albums first week… 9,285 of those were bought digitally… Which means he sold 85% physical first week (According to Nielsen SoundScan)
Nelly’s label did not fail to promote. He performed on LIVE television along with interviews and guest appearances on major talk shows/music shows, and live sporting events. 106 & park, Manny Pacquiao fight, Jimmy Kimmel, The Ellen DeGeneres Show, Chelsea Lately, and Jay Leno. LACK OF PROMOTION?
ED LOVER CAN I GET A C’MON SON!?!??
“Just a Dream” sold 2,017,343 singles digitally to date. Because it is a HOT CROSSOVER TOP 40 RECORD THAT WORKS FOR NELLY. I say WORKS FOR NELLY BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN AND PRODUCED BY Rico Love, and Frank Romano and produced by Jim Jonsin FOR NELLY. HOW ABOUT BE GREATFUL? HOW ABOUT CREDIT THE TALENTED BEHIND THE SCENES PEOPLE WHO RECREATED “NELLY”
YOU GOT EGO AND YOU DONT EVEN WRITE YOUR SHIT! Nerve brotha… Nerve.
Being in the music business myself and working at a label/distribution company… You made a mistake with that second single “Move Ya Body”. Second single should of been “Live Tonight” with Keri Hilson. Then you would have definitely (in my opinion) seen a better first week sales. Still would NOT have sold over 200,000.
Be a true partner and don’t be a pest to your distribution company/retailers. We are aware of the climate and we have good resources that help us know what to ship. Its obvious 200,000 was more then enough first week.
Best of luck.
COSIGN! to everyone!!!!
Lol no one’s really looking for you Nelly. You were actually pretty good on the radio, maybe you should stick to that…
When you suck, you suck.
I PRAY TO GOD NELLY READS THESE RESPONSES. Maybe he’ll learn something. He keeps screaming about selling 2 million “just a dream” singles, well how come the people who bought the single didnt buy the album? Its over dog, and im from St. Louis. I was actually hired by Derrty Ent to help with marketing of Brass Knuckles but my company was never paid so we didnt do it. Nelly just invest in your city, and im talkin about Skybox.
@ J M… Let the church say Amen. I’m ready to donate to the “building fund”. HA!!!
On point Brother.. On point.
I would comment, but a majority of my fellow rap radar Constituents summed up my feelings about said rapper.
Nelly’s bootyhole is hurting yall…
I was in Walmart last night and i seen a few 5.0’s on the rack so that 200,000 shipped sounds about right. Nelly chill homie you had a real good run.
Lil Wayne changed the game a long time ago. If you dont put out music to keep your fan base and showcase your growth as an artist your fans are gonna listen to someone else. Even Jay put out a cd every year and i hope nelly doesn’t think that he is bigger than that. The ” I dont freestyle for free” era is dead. Im not gonna talk down about nelly because he even without big album sells im sure he doing better than me money wise, but he should use this moment to change the people in his circle. Cause if I know this, the people he pays should know this. Its not the end nelly, what u need to do now is call every up and coming rapper and do a mix tape just no bubble gum rap you are gonna have to go hard.
THIS IS TO MAJOR VA. YOU SAY BLACKS NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE CORN BALL MOTHER GOOSE RAPPIN NELLY? WELL ITS MORE WHITES THAT BUY HIPHOP THAN BLACKS AND MABY THERE RIGHT, NELLYS DONE, GET OVER IT , IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF THEM MATE!