Complex Presents: No Debate (Ep.4)
August 26, 2014 @ 12:33 PM EDT
News
Great Debate.
It’s been a long time, but No Debate’s back with a new moderator, Peter Rosenberg, and special guests Noah Callahan Bever and Reef Tewlow. Topics at hand? Trinidad James, Bobby Shmurda, Young Thug, Nicki Minaj, and more.
Episode 3:
And we’re back! Along with Combat Jack, Complex’s, Insanul Ahmed, and Ernest Baker we predict if Iggy Azalea is Grammy-worthy, if 50 Cent and his elders should call it quits and more. Three times a charm, so check it out.
Episode 2:
With Combat Jack sitting in, Ernest and yours truly weigh on Troy Ave and hip-hop media.
Episode 1:
Everyone’s a critic—Even me and Ernest Baker. Here’s the first episode of our new hip-hop webseries, No Debate. Miley Cyrus, best rap verse ever? Ha! Com’on son!
@ B.Dot
THIS SHIT IS WACK!!!! AND THAT’S NO DEBATE!!!!
…………HA!!!! OF COURSE YOU WOULD BE SO WRONG ON A QUEENS ILLMATIC/STILLMATIC DEBATE!!!! FUCKIN’ CLOWN!!!! I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I GOTTA TELL YOU THAT YOU AIN’T BUILT FOR THE CAMERA!!!! AND GET RID OF THAT LIL CANAL STREET KNOCK OFF CHAIN!!!! CORNBALL!!!!
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MacDiesel aka Fagabeefy – Video game playing lame, go do something productive.
TOO BAD YOU DON’T GET PAID TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT THE FUCK I’M DOING!!!! CAUSE YOU WOULD BE ONE RICH NIGGA!!!! HA!!!! BUT THANKS FOR STOPPING BY!!!! YOU CAN JUMP OFF A BUILDING NOW!!!!
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lmao i knew this would be the first name i would see in the comments
These are the stupidest questions ever. Opening with a debate about Miley Cyrus’ rap career is stupid, but even entertaining the idea that Migos are more influential than the LOX is borderline heresy.
http://bkjames.bandcamp.com/
Yo, I didn’t even watch this shit. But did they really say migos are more influential than the lox were??
These three people in this show look like some fuckboys.
bdot the blogger talking out his ass as usual.
@Brian B.Dot Miller. Everyone’s a critic. Even Ernest Baker and I. Not even me and Ernest Baker.
Everything Ernest Baker is saying is completely fucking ridiculous, i am led to believe this dude was born in January of this year. Its like B Dot is having a debate with a 12 year old who just started listening to hip hop..
i dig the show. i would like to see more. also, in my opinion, B. Dot was right.
B.Dot finally found someone to debate with that has more moronic views than he does. He was on point in this one. Except on one point. Stilmatic is fantastic, but it’s not better than Illmatic. Migos, Miley?? why are these even debates though?
I never comment but Rap Radar can you please stop pushing artist like Troy Ave how about adding a underground rap section or giving some people other than MMG some shine. When I first came to the we site it was full of great music now all the material is repetitive or days behind similar sights
I don’t think they give MMG a lot of shine, I think MMG just releases a lot of music lol
@ B.Dot
YOU SLAPPIN’ SOMEBODY??!!! HA!!!! NEVER!!!! YOU WEIGH ABOUT A BUCK 80 AND THAT’S ONLY BECAUSE OF YOUR BOBBLE HEAD NOGGIN!!!! MIND YOU, YOU’RE THE SAME SHOOK NIGGA WHEN MAINO APPROACHED YOU!!!! THE SAME SHOOK NIGGA THAT GOT STOOD OVER ON AND GOT BARKED ON AND BERATED BY EBRO ON AIR!!!! YOU AIN’T BUILT FOR THE CAMERA AND YOU DEFINITELY AIN’T BUILT TO SLAP A REAL NIGGA!!!! ONLY BUILT TO SLAP NERD BLOGGERS LIKE DREW MILLARD!!!!
“I love Ebro. We gonna have a couple of drinks after this” – Brian B.Dot Miller after getting berated and embarrassed by Ebro on Hot 97.
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You know so much from a comment section. ha!
WELL, WITH THE MANY BLUNDERS YOU DISPLAY FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, YOU MAKE IT SO EASY TO EXPOSE A NIGGA!!!! MY RESEARCH TEAM SAYS THANKS FOR THE HELP BENSON!!!!
………..HA!!!! DID YOU REALLY HAVE DRINKS WITH EBRO AFTER HE GAVE YOU THAT VERBAL ASS WHOOPIN’ ON AIR???
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hahah this cat diesel just lives 2 try talkin shit 2 u behind a screen name lls
BDOT IS A LAME THOUGH I AGREE. HEARD HIM ON ALL OUT SHOW SOME CALLER MURKED HIM LMAO!
lls that shit was crazy, got respect for Jude tho cus he said that shit to his face. @therealmacdiesel:disqus different he just hidin on his free wifi
You wack as fuck Benson
damn bruh u aint have to do b dot like that lol
HA!!!! PUT A HURTIN’ ON THAT FOOL!!!! NIGGA BEEN QUIET ALL DAY!!!! PROBABLY LICKIN’ HIS WOUNDS!!!! THAT BITCH ASS NIGGA!!!!
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It comes off like @BDot is basically proving Drew Millard’s point about sycophant behavior with today’s rap journalists. Threatening him for having a differing opinion and writing a relevant critique on writers who propel an artist based off relationships and not music is ridiculous, especially when there’s relevance to the piece. The fact that a debate was basically thrown out the window is ridiculous. 100% props to Troy for the achievements so far but, I think this says more about people like B. Dot, Elliott, and Rob more than anything. “Hipster” journalism as B.Dot complains about is an area of conflict but; this buddy/buddy system and writers who in 2014 wont actively critique artists if their “friends” but instead push them to faux success even if the music is below average; is equally as detrimental.
@therealmacdiesel:disqus sounds stupid as fuck usually, but a lot of the times he’s giving you the REALITY! Truth is I heard @brianbdotmiller:disqus made Millard leave I was happy, like YEEE my boyyy… seconds later B.Dot says some clown ass shit. B.Dot’s said some pretty disrespectful shit in the past, so I wish he just scared Millard without having to talk about “you can’t call someone a bozo… I would never say something disrespectful about some-blahblah”. Bottom line fuck a handshake. Anyway the only thing I’ve learned from Ep 1 and 2 now is that ERNEST BAKER IS THE TRUTH. Wow, that guy’s too real. B.Dot’s scared to say what he knows about Troy honestly, Jack’s BEEN scared ’cause Troy told YN he’s coming for him. Ernest tho… that’s a real motherfucker.
B.Dot is a bitch, i’d whoop his ass
How’s troy ave moving in the right direction when the “people” hate that nigga in his entirety. to me he had the biggest buzz he’s ever going to have
lames fuckin run y’all genre!
i think troy had a better chance at success when the buzz was organic.. bricks in my backpack 3 time period. even the music was better. maybe because he wasn’t goin for a certain sound, but was jus making good music that suited him. i don’t see anything wrong with the support of Elliott and these guys. if you got good relationships u might as well use them.
troy jus needs a hit. anyone else think he will sound good on scott storch production? i mean he is goin for that 2002, 2003 feel.
this is one thing i hate bout these new internet hipster turn up dudes who right articles cuz they talk all of that behind a computer but wen they meet, he walks out the room den gets on twitter and be the “keyboard gangsta” again and talk shit den doesnt show up to the debate…… these guys are not really hip hop listeners and they are fags….. niggaz started listenin to rap wen kanye released 808 and heartbreaks and think thats the hip hop thing
Troy Ave Trash he sound like a fake ass 50 cent. As long as 50 here Troy will never get shine.
The dude from Noisy was spot on. If Troy Ave doesn’t wanna be called out he should make better music.
Troy Average is certified trash.
who the fuck is ernest baker… he is a undercover hipster!
This is some ridiculous blogger/nerd sh-t. Combat Jack is right: wanting to throw hands over tweets is some extreme f-ckboy sh-t!
B.Dot using the “going against the grain” phrase that alsina used is just hilarious.. dude is a joke
Ernest Baker really has the worst taste in music than any rap writer i’ve ever seen. He has some garbage ass opinions.
i feel sorry for your mother
can you imagine when 50 leaves hip hop OMG Hip hop needs someone like him to point the finger at and say thats the bad guy……….with all these soft wack fake dudes running around we only have 50. like him or not hip hop needs him.
Hip Hop deffo needs him I agree but damn he at least needs to release some good music. I think you can agree on that too?
JUST MORE OF THE SAME FUCKERY!!!! ONLY THING I SEE DIFFERENT IS THIS PEASY HEADED BUFFOON NAMED ERNEST BAKER WHO GIVIN’ B.DOT A RUN FOR HIS MONEY ON BEING NERD BLOGGER OF THE YEAR!!!! BETTER TIGHTEN UP BENSON!!!! LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY’S READY TO TAKE YOUR NERD BLOG CROWN!!!!
………….HA!!!! B.DOT’S AN IGGY AZELIA FAN NOW WITH HIS CONTRADICTIN’ ASS!!!!
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Why does Ernest Baker have a platform?
Iggy Azalea stays and 50 cent should retire, Troy ave is garbage! This guy doesn’t like NY street hip hop but
he wants to champion an Australia chic talking about being fancy. GTFOH!
Jorts lmao
Epi 3?
I am gonna give this epi a chance but honestly after Ernst Baker said Migos was more influential than the LOX, I really wrote this shit off. Ernst Baker is a fucking idiot for saying something so stupid. It just killed the legitimacy of the show.
This show is a piece of garbage. Nobody gives a shit what any of these dudes have to say. All these dudes sound ignorant and dumb as fuck. Don’t represent my culture with your bullshit.
Lol that 2nd episode was crazy corny…if I was a writer first thing I would do is start calling people like Elliot Wilson a bozo and wait, hoping for somebody to try to check me over it…
Just read the drew Millard article because of this…and its a really good article the makes a lot of sense. I never liked troy ave music and always wondered why he got press and hype. Now I know why, only thing I didnt agree with is saying hes just the new maino, pap, murda, saigon, because they’re all/were way better than him.
b.dot has the weakest opinions…just lame bruh
If B. Dot ever tried to check me, I’d snatch his doorag off his head and watch that nigga dissolve.
Ernest Baker is the worst.
B. dot is Stephen A and Ernest Baker = Skip Bayless.Young Thug is TRASH
rich homie the truth
how you use Young Thug and Rakim in the same breath?! shoot that man
this dude Ernest Baker is the definition of a hipster, he likes garbage rap like liking miley cyrus iggy and migos is literally the exact shit hipsters love. this clown doesnt realize that jadakiss has influenced most every street rapper out today fuck this clown
CAN’T BELIEVE THAT PANEL IS THE REPRESENTATION OF HIP-HOP!!!! YOU GOT ONE GUY THAT LOOKS LIKE HE WORKS AT A N.Y. PIZZERIA, YOU GOT ONE GUY THAT LOOKS LIKE THE GUY FROM THE BAND “DURAN DURAN”, YOU GOT ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE HE’S NOT EVEN OF AGE TO KNOW ABOUT OR EVEN TALK ABOUT HIP-HOP, YOU GOT ONE GUY WHO’S STUCK IN THE NEW YORK 90’S, AND FINALLY YOU GOT A GROWN ASS MAN WHO WEARS A FUCKIN’ DOO-RAG IN PUBLIC IN 2014 THAT’S TALKIN’ ABOUT “DATE RAPING” RECORD LABELS!!!! TALK ABOUT A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS!!!! YOU INSENSITIVE PIECE OF SHIT!!!! FUCKIN’ CLOWN!!!!
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