Birdman Suing Jay Z Over Lil Wayne Album
July 16, 2015 @ 3:14 PM EDT
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Beatrice Revenge.
Birdman’s got his nest full. TMZ reports that Cash Money is suing Jay Z over the release of the Lil Wayne’s F.W.A. The album was released exclusively through Hov’s TIDAL streaming service.
According to the lawsuit, Cash Money calls the release, “a desperate and illegal attempt to save their struggling streaming service.” Let’s see how this one unfolds.
Birdman is salty but he right about them tryna to save a struggling service that will eventually fail and collapse
b.dot you forget…. CM actually throws shots at the album itself, saying it got “tepid reviews” and could hurt Cash Money. lolll
“a desperate and illegal attempt to save their struggling streaming service.”
SO TRUE
so is Cash Money suing Tidal, or JAY Z?
Tidal. B. Dot said Jay-Z for the headline grab.
*rubs hands together until it starts a fire*
Birdman needs to get the fuck out of his feelings. The Free Weezy Album was a free project & Tidal was a platform to release it on. Sorry For The Wait II was a free project & DatPiff & LiveMixtapes were platforms for that. No matter what Tidal is doing businesswise, this is about his beef w/ Weezy, or else he could have acted 2 fucking months ago w/a cease and desist when Wayne first signed. The ship be sinking @ YMCMB. Wayne says he’ll never fuck w/em again, When Views From The 6 drops Drake’s deal is complete, Nicki is about an album away from finishing hers, Tyga can’t sell a $2 bootleg of his shit if he wanted to stay on the label, & no one else on that roster is more relevant than me, except maybe Mystikal because that Feel Right record w/Mark Ronson goes hard. Even his new _____, Young Thug, just got guns & dope took out of his house. Smh.
If you was giving away your CD for FREE but 2000 people PAID you for it how is that a FAILURE? That’s a 2000% PROFIT!
But then you have to account for production costs like paying for beats, writers, engineers, etc. Birdman is suing his ass for The Gold Album too, so even though he didn’t put the album as a YMCMB release, Birdman might’ve gave him an album advance(I doubt it). All in all, he’s getting crazy publicity but not for his music, so that 2,000 is a disappointment.
Why do you have to account for production COST when you giving it away for FREE?
you’re simply an idiot and actually believe that he wanted to really put it out for free thats all
Rather if her wanted to or not he DID! And you can’t change the FACT that people PAID for something that was FREE!
Because the 2,000 people that paid for it may not cover the costs it took to record it. You could still take a major loss. Especially if you are banking on the fact that the free project will help promote the next album (that will be for sale) that could also do low numbers.
exactly…back to yo mommas basement you go.
It’s SOLD 2K copies but it had MILLIONS of FREE DOWNLOADS! All he wanted was DOWNLOADS and NO SALES! but somehow it’s SOLD 2K copies. He expected it to SELL “ZERO” copies! I’m not a MATH GENIUS but I know 2k is better than ZERO!
I am not sure you fully understand what “profit” actually means.
Profit = Revenues – Cost
In this instance…
Revenues = Album Sales
Costs = Marketing, Production (Studio Time, Engineers, Producers, Mixing & Mastering, etc), Packaging, Distribution… Amongst other things.
2000 albums sold at $10 a unit = $20,000
I’ll let you decide how much you think the album “cost” to make.
Either way, realize album sales will never represent “pure profit”, this can only be revenue as cost has not been deducted.
He was giving it away for FREE so he must not cared about the cost. I know it’s a loss when you add up the COST. But you DONT ADD up the cost when you giving it away FREE!
How much did it cost Wayne to make the FW Album and he gave it out FREE and didn’t sale 1 copy! That mean Tyga last album SOLD better than Wayne’s by 2000 lol
All i’m saying if something is FREE but 2000 people PAY for it it’s a 2000% PROFIT!
It’s FREE so it’s suppose to ZERO SALES!
Name me ONE THING ANYTHING you EVER seen for FREE and 2000 people PAID for it other than Tyga’s album!
He just made HISTORY and yall calling it a FAILURE!
A Failure woulda been if he gave it out for FREE and only 2000 people DOWNLOADED it! Now that’s a FLOP!
But if it’s FREE and MILLIONS DOWNLOADED it and you SOLD 2000 copies it’s a WIN!
again I don’t think you understand what the above comment is trying say… for features, marketing, productions, packaging, label costs… that album is not considered a free album… he intended to make money from it but just did not because it flopped… sure he put it out exclusively on spotify for a day or 2 and maybe got some money from them but other than that the album is a failure hes not an independent artist that gets more profit per unit sold
I’ma put as simple as I can. If you worked 40 hours a week but when you got your check they PAID YOU for 80000 hours will you be MAD?
How did he intend to MAKE MONEY off album SALES from a FREE ALBUM? What don’t yall UNDERSTAND about FREE? That mean it’s NOT FOR SALE!!!!
SIGNED artists make MONEY doing SHOWS and FEATURES not ALBUM SALES!
you comparing apples to footballs…wayne can throw some trash out and the people will gobble it up, make it hot and then repackage it for mass consumption cuz its trendy now and people are willing to buy it..Tyga ain’t got that type of influence…there’s no bounce back for him cuz he doesn’t have the same type of energy or push behind him i.e labels hangin from his nuts,producers that wanna produce for him or company’s who put up $$ for him…Wayne really ain’t paying to record anywhere cuz its wayne now Tyga on the other hand got bills, babies and invoices…#facts… a L is a L for him.
Nah homie you don’t get it. Artist have been releasing mixtape for free for years and other websites and bootleg outlets sell it, u talking like 2000 copies is amazing. Dude had Kylie Jenner, the kardashians and Chris Brown tweet out his album link and all. Still FAILED!
But the big picture that you are missing is, when u release a product that only sells 2000 copies. When you release that and it shows that in 7 days only 2000 people were interested in paying for what you have to offer, so who is going to invest in promoting your music after you flop?
Your product or brand is clearly not in demand.
Nipsey Hussle sold more than a 1000 copies of a $100 mixtape. The shit was FREE but he had a proud to pay campaign that got supported. That is by far more success than Tyga failing to sell even 3000 copies of his $10 CD.
If you released something that failed financially and it failed to build you a hype, it did nothing positive for your brand, then you have nothing to show for all the work you put into that album. That’s the definition of a flop in my eyes.
Name me something ANYTHING you EVER seen for FREE bout it SOLD 20K unit? ANYTHING not just music! Have you ever seen somebody SPEND MONEY at a FREE STORE? I haven’t!
You are an idiot, I just gave you an example of somebody’s fanbase who purchased a CD that was FREE for $100 a pop. More than a thousand ppl in fact. What more do you want me to say?
And this was in ONE day. Tyga had a week and struggled to get 2000 ppl to pay $10 for his shit.
Which one you prefer?
Just fuck off and hold this L for being a dumb fuck.
I can name you like 5 of your favorite albums/songs in the past 10 years that did that. Drake “Best I Ever Had” was FREE!! on a FREE mixtape that still went #1 on the Billboard and RIAA when i was packages and sold, Kudi “Day N Nite’ same thing, Future ‘Commas”, etc….Any viral/mixtape that comes out and becomes a hit…the label repackages and sells it.
Bobby Shmurda etc…what world are you living in!? LOL
Megamind
I’m pretty sure he made more money than that over all the streaming numbers was pretty high but whatever’s clever
Well Neilsen Soundscan and RIAA are calculating 1500 streams = 1 album sold.
So he needs roughly that 1500 streams to make $10.
Now I dunno where you heard that Tyga got mad streams but his streams weren’t high enough for any Hip Hop site to report it so it legit couldn’t have been that many.
Let’s say he got 1 million streams. Do the math.
He would’ve only made about $667 extra bucks from those streams. That can get you about bottle in South Beach and some gas money homie, nothing to be phoning home with.
Whatever’s clever
Lol cool.
But he wasn’t looking to make NO MONEY off SALES! It was FREE! What don’t people understand but FREE? I NEVER PAID for something that was FREE!
2 niggas yall love to hate. lets see how yall comment on this lol
Haters gone say why Sue if you a multi millionaire… Or since you a Blood go beat up Jay and get him to sign over the royalties…
Man the industry as a whole should blackball and turn their backs on Birdman for the way he’s treating Wanye this guy single handedly saved Cash Money at his Peak…See Bird and Slim didn’t play with Juvie and BG like this he knew they were dead ass his pussy hurting about Wanye though feminine ass gangstas
That’s what Wayne is doing now. He saving CM again! This is all staged. Drop a free tape to check the temp. The water wasn’t hot enough yet. So now this fake lawsuit. Watch C5 drop with no promo and a milli the first week. You don’t hear nothing from Slim and Cortez do you? This site faker than Meek and Nicki’s relationship. Hip Hop is the new WWF!
I won’t even be surprised if Wayne does A milli in a week.
I can’t believe people still believe this to be a publicity stunt.
You gotta convince me how Birdman benefits from his name being smeared by his #1 bread winner and its because you didn’t pay him properly? That means there is no way in life Birdman would ever pay anybody properly. Lil Wayne was literally the last hope that he could do right by somebody. So a campaign displaying that he truly does fuck over EVERBODY he does business with, isn’t the kind of publicity you want.
What you just wrote let me know its working lol don’t be fooled homie it’s only ENTERTAINMENT! Baby don’t RUN Cash Money SLIM DO! Have you HEARD anything about SLIM the MASTERMIND behind CASH MONEY? The NEW GIMMICK in hip hop is CREW BREAKING UP and FAKE RELATIONSHIP!
You don’t get where they at being DUMB homie!
What you just wrote let me know you’re stupid as fuck. Not everything is a publicity stunt. The guy you replied to completely shut your argument so just stop
Fam u still haven’t provided a reason as to how they benefit.
I’m a marketer so I understand ROI, a very simple KPI used to measure how much impact on revenue something has.
For this its pretty simple, how is this so called “publicity stunt” benefitting Cash Money?
When this is all said and done, nobody is going to be doing business with Cash Money. This is worse than when Mannie and Juvie left.
You saying these guys didn’t get here being dumb, as some form of defense, implies you believe them to be smarter than you.
We all know Slim is the business side of things who doesn’t want the limelight but let’s not go assigning genius level smarts to any of these guys.
The new gimmick in HipHop is crew’s breaking up? This is a NEW gimmick? Enlighten me, which groups are currently using this gimmick?
Understand something, no real business is willing to tarnish their brand for some extra hype.
If you do something for publicity it needs to result in an increase in revenues for you, in some way. So if that’s album sales, merch, something.
50 suing Ross. He said Ross was the one that leak the sex tape and he want Ross to pay his 5 million. Ain’t that’s snitching? Or since it’s 50 is cool to tell on people in court? I mean that’s what SNITCHES do! When they in TROUBLE they TELL on OTHER PEOPLE! 50 in TROUBLE and now he TELLING on Ross LOL
Snitching is ratting on someone you worked with. 50 ain’t never do no business with ross. And why is ross and 50 in this discussion?
No its not dummies! If you see somebody you don’t know SELLING DOPE and you TELL that’s not SNITCHES because you don’t KNOW them?
Time for Birdman to cut his losses and bow out gracefully. He has all of cash money’s royalties in perpetuity to live off of. He’s too damn old for all this shit.
Birdman is acting like a real bitch these days. He made 100s of millions off Wayne… Let the nigga live already
Stfu faggot ass nigga business is business.
Your fathers a faggot bitch and your daughters a future thot that some niggas gonna make his cum bucket just to spite you.
and you still coundn’t smash….
I wouldn’t want to but some other nigga will be though. She’ll be calling some nigga Papi out there.
aight bruh the daughter jokes gettin corny
And no fucks are given.
Go cut a lawn bearner
fuck you asshole.
El Homo acting like he’s a BO$$… stop it!!! You’re nothing but a hoe ass trick!!!!
I don’t understand why nobody has touched this guy yet.
Birdman is one grimey mothafucka. And look at the figure, basically the same $50 mil Wayne is suing him for.
Cash Money surely wasn’t going to release FWA nor any other Wayne album and so Wayne released it on a streaming service.
It was always questionable about how this Lil Wayne x Tidal thing was going to work out. I know fans want to say it was released for free on Tidal but Tidal is a streaming platform that has to license its music from the rights holders of the music. Which is why labels are cut the check for streams and then pay the artist. CM got Wayne under contract and they hold the rights.
Now where it gets tricky is, if Wayne’s lawsuit holds merit and they are eventually awarded whatever they seeking, Wayne should win back the rights to his music and this suit will be thrown out. If you read Wayne’s lawsuit against Cash Money he is alleging that Birdman also committed breach of contract by not committing to certain terms in his contract, rendering the contract void.
We don’t know if they are going to settle out of court and on what terms but as I said, its tricky.
Hov Going To Make Him Look Bad Watch This !-Kraft Bronx,Ny
The Carter V will be a classic. I’m expecting a November release.
You’ll just say its classic as soon as you see it get critical acclaim. Not knowing the person who gave it that is some corny white dude who just skimmed through each track to give it critical acclaim and told Wayne he’ll write whatever sounds good as long as he grants them a ten minute interview on the phone…
Or because Lil Wayne is a top ten rapper ever and I don’t think he would give us trash on his last album
The last few projects he dropped were trash.
They weren’t his last
but they was his
Read the comment smart ass, no rapper has only dropped classics but Wayne wouldn’t drop Waco shit for his last one
I didn’t say that there were artists that drop all classic. My comment was about Lil Wayne
BREAKING NEWS!!!!! BESIDES THIS BITCH ASS SHIT, BABY, BEATRICE, BABY OR BRIAN WILLIAMS HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN HIT WITH A 30 COUNT INDICTMENT FOR THE POTENTIAL SHOOTING OF LIL’ WAYNE.
That shit ain’t gonna stick
@ B.Dot
WATCH YOU GO RUN ON YOUR TWITTER PAGE AND START DEFENDIN’ JAY LIKE HE’S YOUR CLIENT!!!! PLEASE STAY IN YOUR LANE AND STAY THE FUCK OUTTA GROWN MEN BUSINESS!!!! SOMETIMES YOU FORGET THAT YOU’RE JUST A BLOGGER!!!!
……………..HA!!!! THIS SANDFORD & SON SAGE DRAGGED JAY INTO THIS SHIT!!!! BABY SHOULD KNOW BETTER NOT TO FUCK WITH JAY ON SOME BUSINESS SHIT!!!!
I’m like really half a billi nigga
Really you got baby money
Keep it real with niggas
niggas ain’t got my lady money
JAY Z
#BENSON
DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!
Lol this nigga really just compared Birdman & Wayne to Sanford And Son
…………….HA!!!!
DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!
Birdman you looking weak as fuck blood….. lost a lot of respect for you blood…….. I’m insane piru and we are done fucking with you….. #turnyourflagin B-dogs don’t act like that. You looking like D-trump right now!
That’s not gonna work
He suing for a product he didn’t fund whatsoever, nor promoted.
His lawsuit would technically be direct at LiL Wayne for breach of contract.
In any case, it’s too complicated to outright sue and actually win with all else going on legally already.
dumb ass Lil Wayne. He should’ve change his name or take on another persona under a different name and then release his album under Tidal?
“According to the lawsuit, Cash Money calls the release, “a desperate and illegal attempt to save their struggling streaming service.” Let’s see how this one unfolds.”
DAMNNNNNNN!
birdman a straight up bitch doesnt pay his producers and artists this ol dragonball head ass nigga just cares about the business and money thats it
stupid ass case
Isn’t he also suing Tyga for releasing his trash on Spotify?
How about pay up the money you owe
Birdman has made millions off ripping his artist off. Fuck em.
This is turning real ugly …
Bea is trying to stay out of jail. It ain’t gon’ work. Nice try, though.
At least he got the facts straight
What a bitch move. Birdman should never call himself a “boss” after this.
Wayne wrote for 85% of Birdmans solo albums, smh. He needs to just put down the Johnny’s Seasoning salt and give Weezy the money he deserves.