Young Guru Says Jay-Z’s Expanding Hip-Hop Culture
March 2, 2010 @ 2:31 PM EST
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After some more MSG talk, Guru provides some mo’ insight into Jay-Z’s current musical and artistic direction. He also respectfully disagrees with Cornell West and explains why.
OK BEING THE JAY-Z STAN THAT YOU ARE…IT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE IF YOU DON’T HAVE A MONTHLY OR TIME TO TIME UPDATE SIT DOWN WITH GURU TO DISSECT THE HITS AND SOMETIMES MISSES OF SHAWN CARTER’S MUSIC AND HIP HOP AS A WHOLE
DUDE IS HIP HOP KNOWLEDGE…I MAY NOT BE A JAY-Z STAN, BUT I’VE ALWAYS BEEN A FAN OF GURU. WHEN DUDE TALKS, ALL KNOWLEDGE.
SH*T NEED TO BE IN A WHOLE SECTION BY ITS SELF….JUST HIP HOP DIALOGUE. SOMETHINS LIKE RICK GERVAIS SHOW ONLINE….JUST TALKING, BUT THE SH*T IS INTERESTING JUST THE SAME
THINK ON THAT HI YELLA NINJA…THINK ON IT
Real talk, Guru is an insightful dude, and is sayin some real shit. He knows Jay better than most.
jay z overload rap radar special damn
real talk guru real talk
dman says:
Tuesday, March 02 2010 at 2:56 PM EST
jay z overload rap radar special damn
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LMAO…YOU GOTTA GIVE YN CREDIT FOR THE GURU INTERVIEW THOUGH…SH*T WAS GOOD
Feed us more YG interviews btw did he start teachin yet?!
I respect Guru, and the way he carries himself, plus his trackrecord… however I agree with Cornell West, I believe Jay is doing more to harm the culture by staying in it, and not really giving off a message, or having any substance in his content. If Jay’s true reasoning is to expand the culture, than honestly he is doing a lousy job of it! B/c hiphop (The 5 Elements) Jay ain’t promoting that at all… Jay is promoting money, swagger & success… which is cool, and Success is a good thing to promote, but we all know Jay lacks substance!
woooooooo
this nigga young guru….is all knowledge. this nigga needs his own rap radar section. i got more outta this shit than 88.7% of the shit yall post on a daily basis.
now, doesn’t it feel good to really FEED your site visitors? shout out to DARKAQUA*
can’t wait for the next part. peace
@MrWah
you might need to rewind the interview and watch again, joe. what we talkin bout?
@ Nathaniel
What I’m talkin about homey is the portion in which Guru talks about Cornell West’s comments about Jay and how he respectively disagrees with Cornell. All I’m saying that I while I respect what Guru’s opinion of Jay’s state, and what he is doing… I disagree with it, and I’m allowed to playa… I personally agree with what Cornell West had to say… its not saying its wrong and not saying its right… Guru says that Jay is expanding the culture, but what is culture today is not the same hip hop culture I grew up on in the late 80’s, early 90’s…
I think the messages in Jay’s songs are missed on BP3. Guru explained it best with “what are we talking about?” “Off that” reference is good. “Off That” had a good message. Fighting in the club…we off that. There comes a time, when you shouldnt do things anymore.
I the messages are there. Its up to us the listener to hear it.
Guru kicking science
I have no problem with people having opinions on either side, but, honestly, what specifically do people want Jay-Z to address??? If it is about the culture, yall would play the hell out of him if he brought Oprah to Marcy and taught her how to breakdance on some cardboard at 40 years old. SMH
His gift is MCing. As far as lyrical content, he addressed Katrina on Kingdom Come, he said F Bush on American Gangster, he did the BETTER song about Haiti…I really dont know what more ppl want from him. With his worldwide shows, he is spreading a part of the culture, which is getting kids all the way out in Slovakia interested in finding out more about the culture period.
IRONICALLY, if you’re into the ALL aspects of the culture, you might want to check out what Dame is doing with his DD172 spot. Good stuff.
NOT HATING ON YOUR OPINION #rimshot
@MrWah
indeed you’re allowed to do whatever you want.
“Jay is doing more to harm the culture by staying in it, and not really giving off a message, or having any substance in his content. If Jay’s true reasoning is to expand the culture, than honestly he is doing a lousy job of it! B/c hiphop (The 5 Elements) Jay ain’t promoting that at all… Jay is promoting money, swagger & success”
^this is why i said you missed it. none of that has anything to do with what cornell west said about jay-z being motivated. judging by the moves he’s made lately, motivation clearly isn’t an issue…nor has it ever been for jay-z. but as far as the above snippet i quoted you on, what message should jay be giving off? 100% righteousness? is that what the 80’s and early 90’s was about? (and hip hop was a lot more than east coast native tongue movement in the early 90’s. Enter the Wu was out in 1993, and i didn’t hear none of them niggas talking about the 5 elements of anything. NWA, The Chronic, Doggystyle, etc.
if you think “money, swagger, and success” is all jay is promoting (and promoting being successful should never be a criticism), then once again, you missed it that portion of what guru was saying.
i never understood how niggas all love cats like Biggie, 2pac, call Dr. Dre a legend, love Big L, Ghostface, etc etc but turn around and ask for more substance from Jay-Z. he’s just as multifaceted as all them cats, and the catalog has EVERYTHING of “substance”, as well as just the complexities of being a human being you could want. but alas…
co-sign _MelG_
thats what i’m saying…i’m confused about these Jay-Z expectations. for you pure hip hop heads out there, the nigga JUST did DOA (Death of Autotune), attacking the trend following, lack of creativity and individual artistic integrity of the majority of the rap industry…
and yall niggas still ain’t satisfied. hell, the nigga did a tribute to New York, played it at the world series even for the world to hear. and niggas STILL ain’t satisfied.
i guess he gotta join the Nation of Islam, and change his name to Jay-X or some shit.
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@ Nathaniel….
Some MC’s u feel where they are coming from, you relate to them, etc…. and some you don’t!
Jay is 1 of those dudes, that while I respect his talent, and he does have gems in his catalogue, I won’t deny that…. Jay doesn’t touch me like that…. He never has! As in regards to your comments about Jay having just as much substance as other rappers ie: Nas, Biggie, Scarface, Ghostface…. I’ll debate you on that one all day long playa. To each his own… but the arguement is not so much about what Guru was saying in defending Jay, but a matter of personal taste and opinion…. The fact of it is… whether you believe he is trying to expand HipHop, Guru, or Jay himself, or not… the quality of Rap music, and the Hip Hop culture today itself is terrible right now. We used to tape the radio, in 2010 who the fuck listens to the radio unless its satellite radio? There are some great artists, and up and coming artists, but there are more duds than anything else. But there is no way in hell you could compare 1994-1997 to anything in the 2000’s…. let alone today. When Jay dropped RD, nobody was looking at dude like he was next up to battle for the throne. He wasn’t coming close to Biggie, Nas, or let alone Jeru The Damaja in 96….
Gr8 post YN…
@ MrWah
I feel where ur comin’ from, but Jay has dropped more gems than he gets credit for. I’d agree that its not on the same level as a Nas, Scarface, or a Common…but he has dropped ’em. U’ve got to remember that Jay is a hustler 1st and he’s in the business of selling records. But the main difference between him and say a 50cent is the fact that Jay gives u his life on record, which in many cases r thought provoking and motivating.
Jay being 40 and still being relevant in itself speaks VOLUMES. It’s a testament to what stayin’ true to urself will afford u. We as fans(in general) would not allow this to happen if he wasn’t some what official. Fact of the matter is Jay has done more for hip hop and the culture in the past 10 yrs than any1 else has.
I c ur point tho.
@ MrWah But what is culture today is not the same hip hop culture I grew up on in the late 80’s, early 90’s…
Of course it aint because its expanded to different genre of music!…Jay-z performed at Glastenbury you think he would of done that in 96 hell he wouldn’t been able to do that in 2000 either! Hip-Hop has Came along ways from the corner to the world series opening up for the Super Bowl selling out the Garden if you gonna tell me that he aint part of the reason that america is accepting Hip-Hop then ya Crazy!….i bet you there’s people that don’t know a talib kweli or a Lupe fiasco but the same person can tell who jay-z is and heard at least one song they was familiar with or liked!..as far as substance goes he has a few songs that i can vouch for the Meet The parents on blue-print 2 perfect example!..he talking bout dead beat Dads not taking care of there sons and paying for it years later!…trust i could relate to that as we speak!..aint trying to go through his whole catalog but theres a few more!…Nas and them are good rappers and artist but they aint selling records and this business thats what its all about and to be past the age limit required and still be true to yourself and what u rap about!…and be able to bring it further with each album c’mon how is he hurting it?
everybody is talkin like jay-z is makin hip hop international!!
in spain, they only know about eminem, in france EM has the biggest fan base…and so in other europ countrys. maybe not in the UK.. but western europ(spain, france, germany, scottland, sweden………) belongs to Em!
Guru is very bright. I wish I could talk about shit with him,
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