So Humble
Bink’s got the hot hand. Recently, the Virginia producer supplied the heat (“Santorini Greece”, “Game Ain’t Based On Sympathy”, “Scientology”) to Rick Ross’ new album, Rather You Than Me. But before reuniting with Rozay, Bink provided bangers for Roc-A-Fella all stars Jay Z, Kanye West, Beanie Sigel, and Freeway. Here, Bink speaks on his latest work, publishing, production, B.I.G., studio sessions, and more. Subscribe on iTunes here.
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This the dude that be crying about Just blaze, Jake one, Justice League,
Mark Henry, Antman Wonder, Arab Music, and a whole slab of other
producers accusin them of takin his style. smh. stahp it five
I’m going to have to see that twitter profile of yours to see whether he was right or not.
It’s not like he’s lying. Lord knows from drake sounds like bink’s style. Money dance does too. Mark Henry ish is reminiscent of bink. They’re all dope producers too.
I agree wit you that they all dope. I wouldnt say they stealing his style, I dont even think they’re influenced by him. they all got that live feel. they’re influenced by bands. live drums, live instrumentation doesnt belong to any beatmakers and producers. He strikes me as somebody who really believes his signature trademarked sound is live sounding drums and sample chops. I’m getting into A&Ring & I’ve been basically soaking up everything from everybody I’m around. I got some great mentors who arent afraid to show what they know & help young women get into this side of the game. no humble brag shit but I was able to be around during Drake’s “Views” record. specifically the song “Views”. we were talkin about how bink accused Maneesh of taking his style on that record when maneesh was literally not even thinking about him in the least. he was really annoyed & hurt by that. Neesh is a really good guy so that made me do more research and see that bink loves to make these wild accusations
Yo chill with the essay’s B
Lol bet
Told you it was to much for these suckers to handle, keep spitting that shit fam…….
if you don’t mind are you what label /company are you a&ring for?
that “live” feel as you say…. at least when it comes to rap, that “pocket” in rap music was damn near invented by him .. maybe the roots touched on it, but he took that shit by storm.
his fate is tied to blaze, like hov and nas.
you said the things that made all the other producers and yet .. as basic as drums are niggas still out here with struggle drums.
tims drum work, the neptunes synths and chords are all “tools” that everyone has as well.
the only real difference is signature of arrangement, but for you to act like someone like mark henry is even in the same class, you outta pocket.
mark henry can’t even get the tone right on his snares and his kicks trash .. he love the live pocket tho, but the polish aint there and hes not getting there.
Maneesh – … where to start .. nowhere.. cause the only album he’s ever been is drake’s album .. he was a dj before that.
He didn’t just wake up with no influences on how to sample and lay the drums like he did. He was hurt because he thought no one would call him on it. you defending a nigga with NO CREDITS!!!
how crazy is that ???
S.N: i feel bad for the antman situation thats my nigga .. that was a clusterfuck.
ant is part of the new breed of fuck digging for samples i’ll make my own .. he in a whole different atmosphere.
you sound very knowledgeable so I appreciate your input so much! I want to respectfully respond to each of your points in the order you mentioned them. (I like debating cuz as the only woman in most sessions I’m in I have to know my stuff cuz yall love to try us smh lol)
About the “Live” feel, I’m saying bink is great at it! no debating. But, it wasnt innovated by any one producer. Before bink producers were playing actual live drums on record or programming in a similar live pocket. And it would be wild to assume nobody else was influenced by live drummers but one person. “Maybe the roots touched on it”. The roots are literally a live band, with an accomplished live drummer in questlove who played on rap albums. And THEY had influences in other live bands and drummers. Not once have I heard Quest accuse others of biting because they apply live musicianship, specifically drum pockets, to music. I think that would be presumptuous.
I said I have yet to see an interview where bink isnt disparaging Just blaze and I believe your response to that is “His fate is tied to Just blaze, like hov and nas”. Just Blaze doesnt disparage bink. It appears to be a one sided beef. Jay doesnt disparage nas and vice versa. A engineer here just told me he saw Just and Bink together. it would be awesome if they could squash it all and uplift one another. (I know, corny lol)
I mentioned the other producers signature sounds to explain my view on what it means to innovate a sound. Before Timbo nobody was experimenting with time signatures with syncopated drums and warped synths like that. Before Rza, very few people were flipping soul to sound so dark with the half bar loops and martial arts influences. You couldnt even accidently stumble on to those approaches to music. The reason bink thinks 30 people sound like him isnt because they are stealing his style. Its because what he is claiming to be his is a staple of music theory. Drum fills, flammed notes, triplets, rudiments. This is not a beatmaker innovation. He’s not the first person to apply this to rap and r&b.
I would never compare mark henry to bink. I dont even think they sound alike. My comment was questioning why Bink would disparage that guy. Nobody is comparing them. Bink is a production great, Mark is a new comer with a growing following. Mark more than likely loved bink. I dont think there is a need for you to disparage him by saying sound is trash. *Shrugs
Neesh is a good dude. Thats why I’m “defending” him. He has never taken shots at bink or anybody. We have some instigating ass engineers here sometimes and they mentioned what bink said about neesh and even then he wasnt taking shots at bink. He was asking everybody in the room why bink said that though because he made no attempt at biting him. I can speak to this because I happened to actually be there. The record came together organically. The melodic elements came first, then neesh laid dummy drums for a drummer to come in and replay but time got crunched and ideas shifted and after fine tuning and shifting it sounds like what ended up on the album. He was hurt by the accusation because it blind sided him and he felt it was unwarranted.
And then there is some inconsistency with who bink seems to take issue with because he applauds Vinylz who has that live feel on TI’s “Warzone” but then goes on to diss Jake One and Araab Musik who dont even have that vibe. Its odd.
The antman thing was really odd. There was clearly a misunderstanding because it looked like he just flat out snaked Antman for no reason. I am sure thats not really what happend because bink doesnt strike me as a snake at all.
you sound very knowledgeable so I appreciate your input so much! I want to respectfully respond to each of your points in the order you mentioned them. (I like debating cuz as the only woman in most sessions I’m in I have to know my stuff cuz yall love to try us smh lol)
About the “Live” feel, I’m saying bink is great at it! no debating. But, it wasnt innovated by any one producer. Before bink producers were playing actual live drums on record or programming in a similar live pocket. And it would be wild to assume nobody else was influenced by live drummers but one person. “Maybe the roots touched on it”. The roots are literally a live band, with an accomplished live drummer in questlove who played on rap albums. And THEY had influences in other live bands and drummers. Not once have I heard Quest accuse others of biting because they apply live musicianship, specifically drum pockets, to music. I think that would be presumptuous.
I said I have yet to see an interview where bink isnt disparaging Just blaze and justice league, and I believe your response to that is “His fate is tied to Just blaze, like hov and nas”. Just Blaze doesnt disparage bink. It appears to be a one sided beef. Jay doesnt disparage nas and vice versa. A engineer here just told me he saw Just and Bink together. it would be awesome if they could squash it all and uplift one another. (I know, corny lol)
I mentioned the other producers signature sounds to explain my view on what it means to innovate a sound. Before Timbo nobody was experimenting with time signatures with syncopated drums and warped synths like that. Before Rza, very few people were flipping soul to sound so dark with the half bar loops and martial arts influences. You couldnt even accidently stumble on to those approaches to music. With bink, what he is claiming ownership over is a basic staple of musicianship and music theory. The reason he thinks 30 people sound like him isnt because they are stealing his style. Its because what he is claiming to be his is a staple of music theory. Drum fills, flammed notes, triplets, rudiments. This is not a beatmaker innovation. He’s not the first person to apply this to rap and r&b.
I would never compare mark henry to bink. I dont even think they sound alike. My comment focused on the reason why Bink would disparage that guy. Nobody is comparing them. Bink is a production great, Mark is a new comer with a growing following. Mark more than likely loved bink. I dont think there is a need for you to disparage him by saying sound is trash. *Shrugs
Neesh is a good dude. Thats why I’m “defending” him. He has never taken shots at bink or anybody. We have some instagating ass engineers here sometimes and they mentioned what bink said to neesh and even then he wasnt taking shots at bink. He was asking everybody in the room why bink said that though because he made no attempt to take from him. I can speak to this because I happened to actually be there. The record came together organically. the melodic elements came first, then neesh laid reference drums for a drummer to come in and replay but time got crunched and ideas shifted & after fine tuning and shifting, it sounds like what ended up on the album. He was hurt by the accusation because it blind sided him and he felt like it was unwarented.
And then there is some inconsisency with who bink seems to take issue with because he applauds vinylz who has that lie feel on TI’s “Warzone” but then goes on to diss Jake One and Araab musik who dont even have that vibe. Its odd.
The Antman Thing was really odd. There was clearly a misunderstanding because it looked like bink flat out snaked Antman for no reason. I am sure thats not really how that went down because Bink doesnt strike me as a snake type of guy at all.
I think it would be healthy for Bink to participate in a producer battle. Sounds like he has some scores to settle.
the scores to settle are all from his oddly entitled beliefs though. what he seems to think he has ownership over is the most basic of music elements. drum rolls and samples? literally everybody that likes samples and has had band in school has that influence. He did not innovate that influence.
for example I can say this. What is Timbaland’s unique sound? those syncopated drums, off kilter synthesizers, abstract vocal sounds, and uncommon time signatures. What about RZA, dark soul samples, half bar loops, samples with vocals purposely included and manipulated like instruments. What about the neptunes, nontraditional synth chords, pop-esque polished melody, and pharell’s unique vocals on hooks. Those things are innovations. That is a unique style that can be traced to the creator. What has bink innovated? drum rolls programmed to mimic the pocket of a live drum player and sample chops? Thats like a Make up artist coming out today and saying her signature style is eyeliner! these are basic tools in every MUA’s repertoire.
I would enjoy a clash is all.
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lol I feel you. I agree. That would be dope to see/hear
You know your music fam!!! You’re either a producer, artist or in the game…as I am as an Music Exec. While I give Bink credit for being dope and having some hits under his belt…my issue with him has always been that he has the Erick Sermon syndrome. Which is he thinks the world owes him and over looks him…Erick should rightfully feel that way bc he was the East Coast funklord! And produced for whole crews.
What has Bink done aside from the dope record here and there??
I follow him on IG and he comes off as very bitter and contrite sometimes…it’s actually borderline wack and turns me off to his content.
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Imma have to ask you to chill, your knowledge is to much for these suckers to comprehend…..
good point
interesting points guys
Retire your wack ass podcast. Drink champs running that shit and already lapped yall lames 10x.
to keep it 100 them interviews been ass lately. b dot tell yn to step his game up.
Rick Ross Makes Waves With Rather You Than Me
Rick Ross would rather someone else have failing album sales than himself and he doesn’t have too much to worry about with his latest LP landing at #3.
Rather You Than Me pushed 105,650 total units with 70,000 album sales and 45 million streams in its first week.
While Rozay has five #1 albums under his belt, 2015’s Black Market landed at #6 upon its release with 64,000 units.
rather you than me was terrible!!!!!! that’s why you don’t see esco posting comments on here.
Nine albums removed from anonymity, Rather You Than Me secures Rick Ross’ slot within the list Top 5 of rap soloists to emerge from the South over the last 20 years, and is among his more cohesive bodies of work to date.
Gucci pucci is that you????
dude does actually seem quite bitter lol. He’s dope but I dont think I’ve ever seen an interview from him where he didnt mention Just Blaze and other producers in a negative light. Who instigates beef with Jake-one!? LMAO.
Bink sounding like a scorned hoe……
Virginia has always had the best producers and always have dictated the sound of the highest quality of hiphop; Specifically the 757 (Hampton Roads).
B!nk the Producer . I’ve heard his music over his career, since the “Don’t leave ” track for Teddy Riley and he’s had classic songs since inception. Clever humble guy who’s honest with his comments and ideals. True to his craft…
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Nice to hear you guys again, congrats Bdot on the Epic position 🙂
Great show this week
I wish ya hit me with more shows like before..
Elliot and B.Dot I really enjoyed you guys execution on this interview. A lot of people weren’t aware of how much work Bink contributed to the Jay-Z success and you guys really brought that to light. To able to hear some of the stories about his relationship with Nas and collaborations on songs such as Queens Story and Made You Look really grabbed my attention and has given me much more respect for Bink.