Beanie Sigel Calls Charlamagne Tha God
October 30, 2009 @ 8:17 AM EDT
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This morning, Sigel spoke to Charlamagne Tha God on 100.3 The Beat about his diss song, “What You Talkin Bout” and his relationship with Jay-Z. This shit’s heartbreaking.
Props: CTG
This is depressing.
these niggas ain’t strong enough
Man this is sad 2 see
Good interview, Sigel is hurt….
Jay-Z is still the best musically, but he be on some SUCKA SHYT!
50 Cent doesn’t play, playing chess with all these rappers.
Today, I lost a little bit of respect for Shawn Cater.
This all has to do with Yankees vs. Phillies..
Jay Z is weak! Always has been ! Beans carried the ROC…brought Street Cred n Joe Camel took advantage. Loyalty or disloyalty. U tell me ? How u stab Dame ? Bleek ? Amilla ? Def Jam ? N da back just to climb to the top ? Devil Worshipper !
Shit is sad. Heard this was gonna go down for a minute. But the tipping point was when jay had cops escort him out of powerhouse. People that’s ya homies ain’t posed to do what jay did. This ain’t even bout money. Jigga was wrong. This about being real. I hope Jay responds. PRIVATELY
You can’t help but feel this dude’s side of the story. So unless or until Jay gives his side, he looks more heartless and disloyal than he already did.
I enjoy Jay’s music but I’ve felt for a long time that he’s on some other stuff when it comes to his personal life, and how he deals with people. You wonder if the nigga even has a soul . From personal disloyalty the alleged masons and illuminati stuff, maybe it all fits together .
Only thing I didn’t really feel Beans on was what he said about Bleek . He didn’t have a convincing reason for being upset with him . I just think he may be a little envious that he got taken care or while Beans got left out in the cold. If he’d be honest I think he’d say that. I guess if you were really close with those dudes you would wonder how Bleek could be so cool with Jay even knowing you’ve been deserted . You’d think somebody would reach back.
Overall disheartening stuff man.
Jay you need to fix this shit! I can stand up for you on alot ot things but this shit right here. Fuck that! Beanz is a good dude. Your rhymes aint addin up and your bullshit catching up. YN get these niggas together on the phone or somethin. I dont wanna listen to this rap shit no more.
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wow so everyone got something to say about jay but to me the dame stuff is more of the suprise. about him moving the money around and taking cats advances!
also if beans wasnt getting any money how was he paying, by his estimate, almost a mill in lawyer fees…
i dont know man i personally feel like jay at some point was like “im not trying to be T.I. or wayne” so i need to distance myself from someone who’s been in and out of jail almost his entier career. those hiphop cops are no joke! i remember waaay back when jay was trying to tell beans that he needed to stop being so hot and reckless, i know from personal experience, eventually you just gotta stop talking to someone thats not listening and do what you have to so not to get pulled down too….
Beans is heartfelt and I am one of Jay’s biggest fans so I HOPE he speaks on it with honesty and at least gives Sigel the conversation he deserves. My bigger issue is how in an interview you (Beans) can mention at least 5-10 different legal situations you were in without taking a look at yourself and why someone who is climbing the business ladder would want to distance themselves. You (Beans) can’t handle business or watch over your own money cause you are always in some shit (for lack of a better word). NO Jay shouldn’t have said he would be responsible for your whereabouts that is a set up for failure. Besides he (Jay) isn’t your babysitter. At this point Jay’s (ppl) should advise him to address this head on or he is at risk at loosing the base that made and holds him down.
this is addressed to sigel. someone please make sure to get it to him or tell him about it:
your problem is the fact that you talkin bout gangsta, when you need to be talkin bout “Allahu akbar” in the row for prayer everyday at the masjid. you need to be w/ good righteous muslims, not gangsta muslims or gangsta anyone else for that matter.
yeah, you need to get on your islam, and get off your gangsta.
see youre right, your gangsta aint never been on trial……but youre islam is. Allah testin you everyday, yet you failin. you wanna a be gangsta, knowin that Allah dont approve. you wanna be a rapper. knowing that Allah dont approve. you wanna smoke out, syrup out, dope out, knowing that Allah dont approve. you livin your live in a way that Allah dont approve.
how you expect to have any type of success, when you livin your life in a way that Allah dont approve of. and you know, being a muslim, that success dont mean x# of dollars, hos, cars…..whatever it is that you call yourself wanting in life. success is that you obey Allah, do what you have been ordered to do, and be entered in paradise b/c Allah has shown mercy to you out of your righteous efforts in this life. all that jazz you poppin about takin bullets for jay and the roc……what you gon take for Allah? what you gon give up for Allah? youd rather give up your life for the sake of niggas and material, than to give up your foul lifestyle for the sake of your Lord. and this aint no diss “record” either. this a real record too.
and whats real, is that Allah has made it easy for you to get out of your situation of dope, gangsterism, , jail/ prison terms, etc…, yet you INSIST to stay stuck where you at. tryin to keep it real for ya “niggas” and the “hood”. rather, yoy a perfect example of “when keepin it real, goes wrong.” you mad at jay, for not visitin you in jail?!?
let me tell you somethin killa, i would not have visited you either. only niggas w/ no sense, visit other niggas w/ no sense in jail, locked up for some easily preventable crap, stupid stuff. nobody wann see they loved ones in a cage like a rat. see, once or twice, its ok. but when you start going to jail every two weeks, start gettin in trouble everyday…….nobody wanna deal w/ that, esp. ppl who dont wanna have nothin to do w/ that lifestyle and what it brings. ppl can only tolerate it for so long, then they give up. i know you know cats, muslim or not, who stayed in trouble time after tim after time. and they ppls was dealin w/them time after time after time. then what happened…..they gave up on them, and let them be who they wanted to be. they turned away from them, like they turned away from they own self. jay just doin to you what should be done to you…….boycottin you. muslims boycott you, why shouldnt he? everybody knows you dont support wrongdoers……that justs helps them in they wrongdoing. when a “nigga” know that a person got his back, right or wrong, he dont care how he act. but when a “nigga” know that he can get cut off for actin a fool, he think about stuff before doin it. that oughtta tell you somethin. i got muslim bros down here that stay in and out of jail. i go to the jails to propagate islam. and when i see them cats, them repeat offenders, i turn my head. why? b/c they know better.
dwight, you know better.
im only goin in on you, cause i feel like no one else do. i guess them brothers up there scared of you, since you know, you all gangsta and your gangsta aint never been on trial. i get tired of see you, my muslim brother, make the same mistakes over and over and over. you gots to know brother, that you cant keep on the way you are doin. dont you have mouths to feed? feed them the right way, and stop puttin hellfire in they stomachs and yours to. aint you never heard about the man who prayed to Allah, but his prayers were never answered b/c his wealth was haram, food was haram, clothes was haram…….
you want Allah to do somethin for you, or jay? want Allah to provide for you, or jay? want Allah to make it easy for you, or jay? you worship Allah, or jay?
no one is perfect, but when it is overly evident, as in your case, that one aint even strivin to be perfect……..then may Allah have mercy on you.
i love you for the sake of Allah, as i do all my muslim brothers and sisters, and i love for them what i love for myself. and i love for myself that i make efforts to get right and so the same for you. but what can i (or anyone else) do if you dont even love for yourself what someone else loves for you? think about that, for real.
again, i love you for the sake of Allah, no other reason. you dont know me from adam’s housecat, but you know its true, else i wouldnt be “takin you to the yard”. now love the ones that love you, stop loving the ones that dont love you, shape up, get right and obey your Lord so we can get it crackin in the next life. forget this one.
and dont be actin like i wrote too much for you or anyone else to pay attention to these words. if yall could listen to a 5+ min interview, you can read this.
I’m throwing the BP3 in the dustbin. Can’t afford listen to someone as ignorant and selfish as jigga.
and by the way, jay is all about his paper. scratch everything else. he’s always been out for presidents to rep him, and he will be that way till he dies or changes that. anything less, is uncivilized (in his eyes). so to expect anything else, is just a complete waste of time. this is what happens when yall (beans too) believe these rappers and their lyrics. LYRICS, MAN….LYRICS. as epmd once said:
“business, never personal.”
belie dat, remem dat, act dat.
Dudes was making fun of Jaz for basically saying the same shit, but it’s different with Beans?
Come on Son!
Emory Watup?
Tell Beans I aint to good with writiing letters and all shit i don’t even right my ryhmes, but what i will do! Ima send this opus scribed through the airwaves vibe wit me. – Do You Wanna Ride, Kingdom Come.
Chill Beans!.
real talk beans….real talk….saw it a mile away.
Jay-Z has always been “Shay-di”
Hip hop is a rollercoaster ride and right now we are at the bottom.. Jay needs to call Beans ASAP. Also I’ve lost respect for Jay after listening to that interview.
JAY-Z’S MINOR ASSOCIATION WITH THESE WEALTHY JEWISH BUSINESS MEN…MAKE JAY SEEM MORE EPIC THAN HE REALLY IS…THE PEASANTS THINK JAY-Z IS REALLY RUNNING THINGS BUT THE JEWISH MEN HE PALS AROUND WITH FOR PUBLICITY REALLY OWN HIS ASS…HE IS THEIR EMPLOYEE!!!! JAY-Z NAME BRINGS IN MONEY FOR THESE JEWISH BUSINESS MEN AND THEIR COMPANIES AND THEY DON’T MIND MAKING HIM SEEM IMPORTANT BECAUSE HE MAKES THEM BILLIONS! JAY-Z IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN EMPLOYEE WHO GETS PAID A CHECK TO MAKE THE REAL COMPANY OWNERS MORE MONEY!!!! THESE JEWISH MEN USE JAY-Z FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT…AND WHEN HE IS NO LONGER MARKETABLE FOR THEM THEY WILL CUT HIS ASS LOOSE!!!! BEYONCE IS ALSO A GOOD LOOK FOR JAY…THIS IS ALL ABOUT APPEARANCE…AND THE PUBLIC BELIEVES THE HYPE!!!
SOME ONE EXPLAIN THESE POINT PLEAE
1- WHY JAY Z BEEN SPOTTED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WITH A HOODIE SAYING “DO WHAT THOU WILT” WHICJ IS A FAMOUS QUOUTE FROM ALISTAIR CROWLEY AKA THE WORLDS FAMOUS SATANIST…
2- WHY IT TAKE 14 YEARS AND 11 ALBUMS FOR JAY Z TO GET A NUMBER ONE SINGLE AND FOR REGULAR WHITE PPL TO KNOW ABOUT JAY…
MAC to humble to be on somebullshit I seen from the sidelines how Grimmy these ROC nigga’s are… We from philly and nobody gonna look out unless we look out for our self I strongly urge the State Property Fam to put they own shit together and hustle hard and grind hard PHILLY BABY
real talk
“This all has to do with Yankees vs. Phillies.”
Let’s hear the whole story. Don’t get it twisted. Just because Beans is a a “real” nigga who sounds sincere and like he truly believes what he is saying doesn’t mean its all true people. ITS REAL REAL EASY for sh*t to get twisted. stay tuned.
REAL TALK BEANS,
50 got his team caked up, everybody want to hate 50, but he a real nigga,
got his team eating, game would still be good if he didnt mouth off.
jay is bitch-made.
beans keepin it real,lol , said jay running around with the jew-minati feel ashamed with the akies,
ratner said drop state prop,or u cant get a piece of the nets,lol.
guess thats what he has in common with obama,oy vai
@Slow Ur Roll, Know Ur Roll – Jay”s grimey get over it groupie
this was a very real convo…he aint studder once
truthfully we all noticed this
Jay-Z is for Jay-Z
i feel for J.Cole
Really people, i mean would beans even be who he is without the jay-z association. like most rappers he would of came did a couple of albums and then become a once upon a time rapper who needs to air out dirty laundrey to get recogniton and air play to talk about someone bigger than him for people to listen,(oh wait that is what happend) b/c all the people that are defending him do you have the,the truth, Bcoming, the reason, or any of the state property albums. would you have even listened to or even bought those albums without the roc a fella co sign? granted like jay said he is the gift and the curse. hes to big for anyone else to shine under him. is that his fault? should he limit his potential and legacy for someone else? would anyone else. the reason beans keeps saying it aint about money is because he knows you never bite the hand that feeds you. because like he said hes comfortable, he made money lots of it, and because J didnt babysit you and hold your hand and take responsibility for you, your gonna cry about it now for attention. not cool, lead by example is old tried and true mantra that many teacher/student relationships live by. you see the way j moves unscathed for 15 + years in an industry that has such a fickle aduience. you think someone is gonna save someone who keeps making the same mistakes. he would be as dumb as the fool making the SAME mistake of running in the streets, shooting ppl, getting into fights and then getting sued. to only FUCK UP million dollar deals by going into jail. because really who invests in an unsure thing? remeber this beans many ppl have talent, just so happens you knew someone who knew someone who introduced you to J for YOU to spit for him, that could have been another shmuck on a philly street corner with a story to tell spitting for J to eventually get a deal, a clothing line, movie and sneaker deals to live in a comfortable mansion with numerous cars to only turnaround and complain that the person who made most of what you have possible complain about it saying they aint do right by them.
thee end
I LOST A LITTLE OF RESPECT 4 BEANS 2DAY, HE SOUND LIKE THE NEW JAZ-O
It’s initially unfair to compare 50’s relationship with Banks and Yayo to Jay’s relationship with State Property. It’s not the same type of relationship.
Banks and Yayo are his dudes from BEFORE rap. State Prop came thru to Jay AFTER rap.
The day that Ty Ty and B- High start screaming “foul play”, then you’ll have a problem.
f that.. all y’all keep talkin bout jay only being bout jay well I would too. just cause this niggardly ain’t studder he’s sincere.what?!? I could go on air and not studder and tell all sorts or lies. beans shoulda takin care of himself never let No one else do that for ya even if they say they going to.I’ve had homies I’ve had to keep out of trouble and the minute I wasn’t there for him he tuned his back on me. like I was the one locking him up or I was the on that put him in the spot he’s in. I worry bout me my family and love my friends but I ain’t a babysitter. Dwight can get over it puss. be a man sell some records get over it.
you jay stans (realjay-zfan ) are funny,i was the big jay fan,but started to lose me with those last few albums.
there is no excuse for blocking beans from gettin money with 50,no excuse at all ,
u gonna say u lost respect for beans? lol ,beans is a real dude, look at jay,
riding kanye when he didnt even want him on, u guys are funny,jay is mad suspect
Ummm, 50 dont pay the gunit artist to perform. Beans is misinformed.
Is weak minded. THis is 50 playin chess for real. he put this in motion. we know that 50 has no heat for jay so what else can he do? sick jays own people on him. this is some real stuff.
real talk
“This all has to do with Yankees vs. Phillies.”
^^^^^^^^^ROFFLE
This is the quote of the day, hands down.
rrahha says:
Friday, October 30 2009 at 10:01 AM EST
real talk beans….real talk….saw it a mile away.
Jay-Z has always been “Shay-di”
^ haha truth.. ive been sayin this for years but now everybody get to hear it & believe it..
BEFORE I SELF DESTRUCT!!! “JAYZ TO BIG TO REPSOND”???….JAYZ IS NO WAY COMPARED TO 50..AS MUCH AS 50CENT ENTERTAINS PPL AND YALL SEE PIMPIN CURLY AND ALL THE OTHER SHIT HE DOES N SAYS ON THE NET…YALL FORGET 50 IS ONE OF THE IF NOT THE REALEST NIGGA IN HIPHOP! NIGGA BEEN SHOT UP ALMOST DIED, LOST HIS MOMS TO MURDER, DONT KNO HIS DAD, GREW UP IN THE STREETS HARDBODY..AND HE LOOKS OUT FOR HIS PPL ON THE LOW….50 THAT DUDE..AND HE STILL KEEPS IT REAL AND HE HAS AS MUCH MONEY AS JAY 50 DAT DUDE I RESPECT FIF..YOU GOT SAIGON, BEANIE ETC SHOWIN HIM RESPECT CUZ REAL NIGGAZ KNO THE BLOGGERS DONT KNO SHIT HE GOT THE STREETS ON LOCK! MONEY IS POWER…JAY GOT BIG AND FORGOT ABOUT NIGGAZ WHO WAS RIDIN WITH HIM FROM DAY 1..LOOK AT IT..DAME, BEANZ, PEEDI, JIM JONES, NAS AIRED HIM OUT, 50, THE LIST GOES ON…SUMTINS NOT RIGHT NIGGAZ
OH..BEFORE I SELF DESTRUCT NOV.23! LEAKED OR NOT IM COPPIN IT CUZ ITS A REAL HARD CLASSIC ALBUM…SO HARD THAT NIGGA FIF BROGUHT IT…NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE HIPHOP FUK AT CORNY LIL WAYNE BABY DRAKE KANYE(UNLESS HE GETS BACK TO THE OLD KANYE) SHIT…..LSITEN TO IT AND ULL FEEL HIS MUSIC AGAIN! I APPROVE…AND BABY BY ME PREMIERS NOV.2 ON MTV….SHUD B A FUNNY HOT VIDEO..FIF THE FAMILY GUY LOL
Beans STFU .. You chose to stay with Dame, dont be mad cuz you stay in jail. You were my 2nd fave on the Roc, now you look like Curtis Jackson, reaching for straws
some of you nigaz be commenting with str8 bs… what does 50 have to do with this???
at the end of the day you jay-z stans need to understand this niga plays dirty like any other exec. shit look at puff… and for the idoit who said 50 doesnt pay gunit for shows …theres plenty of interviews with yayo that say different…theres certain codes that live in the streets that die at this stage in the game…a certain moral fiber that jayz is losin …i could listen to his music all day but if im doing bizness with him im bringin a really good lawyer…
Shawn Carter you can’t be silent on this one…We would like to hear your side cause shit Beans is telling is depressing SMH….
this is cut n dry,jay is a herb
Jay should say nothing.
see even beans kno 50 look out for you if you on his label he was bringing spider loc on anger management tour with spider loc not even having a song out
1200 split wtf LMAO ol Diddy azz nigga wtf they going to do wit 600 dollars then they had to pay the bus driver and shit they would be lucky to leave with 300 dollars which is more than enough if they keep doing shows every single day out the year but still these niggas is platinum artists
i hope jay answer bacc to this i hope he not treating his artist like that all that Roc Boys in the building 2nite all that we in the house bullshit with pay like that them niggas in like a 2 bedroom apartment
i don’t give a fuck about these niggas crying and whining. bitch move. call the radio and tell all the personal.business.back story shit that doesn’t belong in the public.
beans. WHAT DO YOU WANT? the shit that kills me is these niggas REALLY think Jay is supposed to make them stars.
i’ll tell u what. J.Cole is gonna be a star, because he’s man enough to take his destiny in his own hands. these niggas can’t work efficiently for worrying about what jay-z doin.
Beanie Sigel is on Vol. 2, Vol. 3, half of the Dynasty, got the “beans i ain’t tryna change u, just give u some game, to make the transition from the street to the fame” line and mad shout outs on the blueprint…American Gangster, two State Prop movies, the clothing line…mad solo releases.
NIGGA WHY ARE U STILL BROKE. you a hustla right? take the strength of all that shit, the tours, hard knock life, roc tha mic, etc etc etc…u a hustla? make your bread nigga stand on your own two. nigga is probably 30…you cryin.
and how many court cases, shootings, jail time, have u had nigga? in the midst of all this potential success u still fucking around in the streets. so how can a legit nigga keep fucking with u in all your fuckery.
i can’t believe this nigga is expecting to get something out of his super-head like “tell all”.
@ dick in ya mouth, how could u eva b mad @ a nigga who made u a milli? Half mili? 100,000?, 50,000? C’mon Son!
@Nathaniel…word!!
WOW! YN actually posted this.. Given how your asshole bone is connected to Jay’s cock bone, surprised, I am.
@abdur rahmaan
if we really want to get to the REAL ROOT of all this shit my nigga, u hit it RIGHT on the head.
@wow
j.cole is gonna be fine. all he talks about is what HE has to do for HIMSELF in order to get where he aspires to be. as long as niggas wait on another man to take care of them, they’ll always be broke.
question. who has been taking care of jay-z all these years? JAY-Z.
“don’t follow me youngin, FOLLOW MY MOVES” …in other words education is what you need. not hand outs.
GIVE A MAN A FISH, HE’LL EAT FOR A DAY. TEACH A MAN TO FISH AND HE’LL EAT FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
^how can you be personally and business wise tied directly to Jay-Z for 10yrs plus and not learn to fish. these niggas still waiting for jay to give them fish, when he learned how to fish his damn self from watching other fishermen. = success.
I taught-em about fish scale they want me to fish for them
They want me to catch clean, then cook up a dish for them
All of this just for them, or they got a diss for him
They want me to disappear, like it’s gonna do shit for them
They say that i’m in the way, they want me to sit with them
But what they admitting is, they aint got shit for him
But really the fact is, we not in the same bracket
Not in the same league, don’t shoot at the same baskets
Don’t pay the same taxes, hang with the same bitches
So how am i in the way, what is it i’m missing?
Nigga i been missing, nigga i been gone
The shit that you just witnessed is the shit that i been on
And as for the critics, tell me i don’t get it
Everybody can tell you how to do it, they never did it
Now these nigga’s is mad, oh they call me a Camel
But I mastered the drought, what the fuck i’m an animal
Half-man half-mammal
My sign is a Sag, this is just what i plan to do
Oh don’t be mad.
hov is grimey
jaz-o
foxy
rule
x
so on and so on
@Bucky Love
that verse says it all. and ain’t nothing grimey about it. especially in those first 4 bars.
its funny. i’ve never heard a successful nigga cry about what somebody DIDNT DO for them that CRIPPLED their ability to succeed. never in my life.
if jay responds publicly, it’ll either be non descriptive, or the SAME SHIT HE BEEN TELLIN BEANS FOR YEARS probably.
“i came into this game on jaz back, i’m jumped off
stood on my own two, like boom thats that.
yea i’m here to show and prove”
-jay-z
^and thats real talk. beans is a disgrace. some niggas never grow up.
DAMN THIS IS SAD LIKE IM ONE OF TRUE ROC FANS MY FAVORITES IS JAY N BEANS THIS SHIT SADDENS ME BCUZ I LOVE HOV(PAUSE) I JUST WISH THEY WOULD HAVE A SITDOWN WITH EACH OTHA ERRBODY EXCEPT DIPSET THO
and its funny, this beans nigga was the SAME nigga talking shit about kanye’s dress code and calling him gay. you talk about loyalty, ye was giving your fat ass beats bruh. and outta nowhere u come with the jealousy generated jargon. meanwhile ye is out MAKING HIS OWN MONEY OFF THE KANYE WEST BRAND. not the Jay-Z brand…but his OWN brand.
nigga he’s more of a man than you. got signed to the roc and look at him now. STOOD ON HIS OWN TWO LIKE BOOM.
beans is jaz-o and dehaven, klein too, as far as i’m concerned. still waiting on another man to put a bib on you, sit u on his lap and spoon feed u gerber. disgusting.
For real though, Beans had ample time to be much more successful than he is now. Look at kanye, came in on Jay-z’s back and then stood on his own two feet. How I knew about Kanye was that he did some crazy beats for the Blueprint and then he was signed to the Roc. You gotta take care of yourself Beans, who took care of Jay-z? Jay did his thing man.
Still on another level, Jay-z owes it to Beans to sit down with him on some grown man shit and iron out their issues. Calling the cops on your former friend wasn’t warranted either. Very disappointing. It’s sad to see this man. Jay-z just needs to tell dude that “yow you can rap about the streets but leave that street shit alone, get your mind right. I had moves to make and you wouldn’t listen. Had to leave you and let you grow up.”
Just my take.
Dnt worry but J-cole, Honorary College Graduate, street scholar, driven and hungry, He going get his.
The 6 Man of the YEAR is Remi. Mr Zone 6.
http://www.reverbnation.com/blastmusicconcepts
If you don’t believe me see for yourself. I kid you not.
lol these dudes like marvel trading cards to yall, why dont yall just watch a soap opera or the wwe
The crazy thing is, strategically this isn’t a smart move for Beans. He let his talent go to waste by being locked up and then taking shots @ Jay. What he fail to realize is that Brooklyn is gonna hold Jay down soon after NY. Not to make it a state to state thing, the fact remains that once you’re a true fan of a real BK mc (Big,BDK,Masta Ace, Chubb Rock,Mc Lyte, etc.) we tend to side with one of our own. Unless Jay did the sucka thing, but we know Philly will side with Beans, however Jays success is a tale of struggle that we in the hood love to see and make moves to either mirror his or take it as a stepping stone.
@nathaniel, that entire verse is grimey, i dont know what you’re reading or how you’re reading it, jay-z kills it, tellin people do get off his d*ck and try to make their own sh*t. Rocafella rappers need to start making some good sh*t if they want money and Game needs to try actually rapping instead of dissing every person who’s successful because he doesn’t have sh*t.
Jay-z carried the label for like 10 years and NONE of them were able to have success. How don’t you succeed when you’re riding with Jay? If you’re half-talented you should be able to make money off of Jay-z and these guys haven’t made sh*t. He has no reason to cry, Jay-z was giving beans (who is actually good) and the other sh*tty rappers on the Roc props on every song, they were being promoted in the beginning, when none of them were able to catch fire wtf do you expect Jay to do? He can’t carry you for life, you blew your chance when he was promoting you and bleek and all those sh*tty guys earlier, he can’t do it forever, stop bitching.
Wow I always loved Beans but after hearing this interview I got a whole other respect for him! You could feel the hurt in his voice & I got to admit this had me in damn near tears myself! Especially because like Beanie said the ROC was literally like another family we all had growing up & it’s just real sad to see shit end up like this! Jay need to talk to Beanie!
This guy talking about that “fish” nonsense, c’mon, how can you not “learn how to fish” in all that time working with Jay, he sounds ridiculous. “We had no conversation about giving me game”, stop bitching, you should’ve seen how he was doing shit, if you can’t learn from watching Jay then just stop making music please. You’re an idiot if you don’t figure the game out in all your years with Jay-z, he did learn at least one thing from jay-z though “this ain’t a diss record its a real record” sounds a lot like “this aint a diss song its a real song” (lost one – JAY-Z)
dwight, lemme tell you why he didnt vouch for you when time for bail:
you were unreliable, plain and simple.
and i dont mean that from “i ride or die for my mans n dem” type. nah, you got that erryday. you know, “ya gansgta aint on trial”. rather, i mean from the “i’mma get black out and he gon get into some trouble and have to go back and imma lose my stacks b/c he got tendencie to not fly straight in the most supid of ways that just dont make no sense” type. and Allah knows best, but he prob. tried to make you see that at various points prior to that, but you wasnt seein that. matter fact, you said ya self, for example, he told you not to go at jada and nas or whoever you said. why you aint listen? boss tellin you “this”, but you doin “that”. so he was prob. tellin you: “ya need to stop ridin dirty, you a felon. you gon mess up your bread”, “ya need to stop syppin, you a felon. you gon mess up your bread.”, “ya need to stop buckin ery chance you get, you a felon. you gon mess up your bread.”
you my muslim bro and i love you for the sake of Allah, but i wouldnt have even vouched for you at that time, or now even, if i was in that situation. you got tendencies, bottom line. and trust, i aint even up on you like that. i dont be listenin to ya joints like that. i had found out you was a muslim from bros in the prison down here, and i started “seein” ya name connected w/ b.s. and so if i, a muslim from the down south who dont know you from a can a paint, could see it…….dont ya think ya “mans” could? now way would i have put my brerad on the line, knowin that more than likely, you gon mess up.
i mean check, see leslie (yall call him freeway), for example. i found out he was muslim from the same cats, and i started seein his name as well……..just not connected to no b.s. now check again, if the shoe was on leslie’s foot, i think jay woulda got him out. why? cause he aint got no tendencies!!!
another thing you need to realise…….idk about noone else, put i see jay moving from one plane to another. he went from gangsta rocafella…..to not gangsta roc nation. the boy been tryin to fly right ever since he realised his money makin potential. after he stabbed un, did anyone see him checkin for b.s.? no. why? b/c he aint wanna mess up his present bread and the loaves he was tryin to bake the next day. he make his dough, let it rise and made bread out of it, and made more dough for the loaves he wanted to cook the day after that. ya heard?
you aint do dat. you was the cat getin him the flour for the dough……but you started gettin the wrong kind of flour. he needed bread flour….you started bringing corn meal. you messin up his dough, and he cant make no real bread if the flour aint right b/c the dough aint gon rise. ya smell me? do you really?
the boy done move on to another type of dough and you still bringing corn meal. add bey to the mix, that boy is makin some international type dough, bakin world bread. you still makin box jiffy. say word? word.
so thats where hes at w/ his. where are you w/ yours?
nevermind that, where are you at w/ the Big Boss? the Lord of Mankind? obviously, if you aint flyin straight with Allah, how can you fly straight w/ anyone else? if Allah ORDERING you to do “xyz,” and you aint doin it, how can a man excpect you do what hes only ASKING you?
again bro., turn back to Allah, get ya mind right, fly straight…….and good things and true ppl w/ come your way. but as long as you chasin paper and street respect and brotherhood based on b.s……….then you should know that none of those dont: 1. last., and 2. go with you to the grave.
@ jamil,
we’re saying the same thing dawg. u must’ve misread me.
@ abdur rahmaan <—-saying more truth for the squeamish. preach.
I said it already and I’ll keep saying it …FUCK BEANIE SIGEL! 35 YEARS OLD DOG…JAY IS NOT YOUR FATHER, YOUR BROTHER, NONE OF THAT!!!! I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THESE RAPPERS GET SO EMOTIONAL…JUST LIKE BITCHES! YOU TALK ABOUT KANYE BEING GAY BUT YOU SHOULD CHECK YOURSELF FIRST!!! AND ALL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS TALKING ABOUT MORALS OR INTEGRITY…PLEASE!!!JAY NEVER LET HIS REAL PEOPLE DOWN (HIS MOM, HIS NEPHEWS, TYTY AND ALL THEM GUYS). BEANIE SIGEL CAN EAT A DICK…I USED TO RESPECT THAT FAT FUCK…STOP CATCHING FEELINGS PUSSY BOY..IT’S ONLY ENTERTAINMENT…
Hey Bruh….I’m not vouching for anybody, especially a felon who cant keep his ass home cause he keep violating…Sorry Bruh.
beans is the truth.. i like jay too but i can see how jay do that grimey shit. and i like how beans respect what fif has done beans keep your head up
every day the general public gets a glimpse at what a 100% real nigga 50 cent is. Like they say real recognize real not many can recognize 50 cuz aint many real ppl out here anymore.
I believe everything Beanie said is true or atleast how he really feels. Some of it is whining. But it sounds heart felt nonetheless. Hope they can sit down, chop it up and work it out.
Its a whole game of chess….waiting to see whats Jay’s next move, Poof CHECK MATE!
PLEASE!!!JAY NEVER LET HIS REAL PEOPLE DOWN (HIS MOM, HIS NEPHEWS, TYTY AND ALL THEM GUYS)
Yeah ! .. and all them got money from jay because of DAME !
Fuck JAY is a illuminati
abdurrahmaan that was the realist thing i’ve heard all day
yo. yall niggas arent really listening. like this aint about money or beans wanting a handout. niggas need to realize its about respect.
All u dudes are such lames for ur comments sucking Jay-Z. That track he did is real talk.
Who was fighting Jay-Z’s battles in the streets and going toe to toe wit the LOX, Nas, and anybody else who tried to come @ Hov…. Beanie and those Philly niggas. That Hot 97 rampage they did was a classic.
Jay-Z aint say shit to PAC and took an L to Nas. When was the last time he won something?
Beanie got every right to complain. If you the hitman for the boss, and the boss don’t take care of you, there’s a problem. Let’s be real. Don’t let having money be the reason you think Jay-Z could beat Beanie. If Beanie used Jay-Z tactics (how J talked about Nas baby moms after Ether smoked him) we all know Jay-Z would fall and the Roc Nation would be a death trap. U already heard Beanie say if Beyonce really knew Hov shed be disgusted.
Hov betta squash this, cus his street cred is on the line. This aint no youngin tryna come up in the game. Beanie is established and recognized by all.
im a huge beans fan but do any of yall remember beans and all deez other ROC CATS ALWAYS SAYIN ‘ I DONT NEED HOV ALL OVER MY SINGLES AND ALBUMS I CAN HOLD MY OWN’ BUT WHEN THEY CAREERS HIT A DRY SPELL THEY SAYIN HOV LEFT ME OUT TO DRY.
Anyway, this situation is a by-product of the “Roc-La-Familia” mentality, “Secret Society, All We Ask is Trust” vibe that Jay was so proud of when it benefited him from a street perspective. He (and by extension, Dame) did not treat their “artists” like artists; They were having “soul food sundays” and other things to reinforce the values they wanted their artists to have. The problem is that someone like Sigel, who was in need of that type of structure and atmosphere, was consistantly positioned as Jay’s “right hand man,” even more so than Bleek. Judging by Beans’ comments, it was apparent that Jay treated him as though he was intregal to the success of Roc-A-Fella records, when it has become apparent that Jay did not feel the same way. Thats where the root of this problem lies– Your not supposed to mix friendship and business, but in hip-hop, that’s what these “label heads” (from Dipset to G-Unit to Roc-A-Fella to Bad Boy to Death Row) do, and thats why the break-ups are so ugly.
JihaD
@Boom, You need to chill the fuck out,
Mr. Carter is international, Dude dont run rap no more he runs the map. So guess what? Aint nobody know who the fuck Beans is in Europe, Asia, etc. I am Jamaican and aint nobody up to18 know who the fuck he is.
In reality Jay-z bigger than this shit, He can ignore it, keep making money till it goes away and then haters like you dnt have nutten else to talk about. Butttt, cos Beans was his dude, he should address it and squash it. Not because Beans Could hurt his career but because its the right manly thing to do.
By the way lol, what the fuck is wasting time winning battles with often lesser rappers than yourself when you trying to tackle Corporate America and get your stacks up.
Afro-Americans shouldn’t take a page out of Jay-z’s book, yall should read the whole fucking book. Dudes and inspiration right there, Instead yall throwing rocks at him for not defending a jail bird who he gave a to die for opportunity to be very successful. tsk tsk tsk. I just dnt get it.
Shit is sad…
i just don’t see how anyone can feel sorry for beans. he was put in the perfect position for success, rollin with possibly the best ever, and he kept on messing up. Like i said before, its not like jay-z wasn’t on beans tracks or including beans on his, in the beginning jay was all for promoting the ROC, that’s what Dynasty Roc-La-Familia was all about. But seeing as that is one of his worst albums (every jay album has amazing tracks and this was no different but it had a lot of wack features), why the hell would he continue carrying those dudes for another 10 years? They’re all adults, they even claimed they didnt need jigga all over their shit and now this guy bitchin that jay left him. Its been already been said but i’ll say it again, this guy ruined every chance he was given, he didn’t listen, he refuses to grow up. Jay-z aint on that gangsta shit anymore, he’s grown now, he’s bigger than that, beans still runnin around the streets doin dumb shit at age 35.
Jay-z is evolving with hip hop and that’s why he’s got 11 #1 albums in a row, failure to evolve has killed great artists like dmx (his first 3 albums were sick then he fell off), its gonna kill 50’s career, and its the reason why beans never had a career lol. He’s got skills but when you dont know how to use them they’re useless. And it seems like beans is tryna have his cake and eat it too, i mean, he’s talkin so much shit about jay but then says “i aint dissin him”. Basically he’s saying, “yeah i’ll talk shit on a track but i still want to be able to ride his cock if he calls me”. For ppl who think this isn’t about money, you’re sadly mistaken. Everything is about money, this guy is jealous that he spent all his time being the Robin to rocafella’s Batman and he feels he should have some of what jay has. He says he’s not asking for handouts but he clearly complains that he wasn’t being given any handouts lol, i mean, its ridiculous to listen to this guy speak. You ruined you’re life, you’re career, i suggest stay in philly because thats the only place where you will have any respect. You should be happy that your philly rap fans arent like philly sports fans or else you’re failing ass would not be around to bitch about jay-z.
I really feel Beans on this i personally wit through a similar issue with Jameer Nelson of Orlando Magic. I carried this dude all through high school and college and now because i come from a street pedigree he wont even answer my calls. i was the god father to his first born son and him to mine and now he got his bread and wont even reach out. We come from Chester Pa. one of the hardest cities to grow up in America where not too many dudes make it out. Not only has he fronted on me but he’s fronted on his whole city. He used to be such a beautiful person but that money really f#cked him up. If i could rap i would say some of the same things. Its not about money its about friendship and loyaly but if you shining you should naturally want your folks to shine with you.
This whole situtation hurts to me to witness. And what I hate more is seeing grown azz men acting like the next man is supposed to hand the something. It’s b*tchmade to me. I never like to see friends go at it but at the same time, I’ve been a Roc-Fam fan since the beginning. I’ve heard all of their music and from the outside looking in, this is b*tchassness at best. While I do agree, for the sake of the friendship, Jay and Beans need to sit down and do the man thing, I disagree with how Beans is handling it in the first place. I’m a female raised by a man and the one thing my father always told me is that nobody is responsible for your success but you. If you want to be a bum for the rest of your life, the bum sitting next to you isn’t responsible for that. I remember when the Roc had primed Beans to be the next hot figure but it was up to him to take the reins and ride it out. He had everything he needed. He had the rhymes, the beats/beatmakers, the promotions. There is no way he should have ended up in his current situation. I understand he came from the gutter but so did a bunch of mofos. He chose to stay hood and got caught up. WTF is someone supposed to do with that. That’s his fault. Nobody else’s. Not Jay’s, not Dame’s, not Bleek’s. At least Bleek understood that. My thing is, he just needs to man the f*ck up, get on his grind again, and make us remember why ever thought he was hot. The same energy he put in to this diss record, he could have came with fire on something else. They gave him the game, but he folded before he saw the flop.(Poker talk) It’s all on him in my opinion. But I do think he and Jay need to have a man-to-man conversation.
Yes its true everyman should stand on his own but If you could help somebody Y not see this is what is wrong we never stick togeather jayz is selfish yes it s his money but somebody helped him along the way selfishness, greed,self promotion and turning on your brother is wrong and if it wasnt for the people buying music none in the industry would have money
The old “___________ is the Army” label foundation is flawed in much the same manner as a parent attempting to be “friends” with their child; at some point, the parent is going to try to disciplne the child, and the child isn’t going to have it. The large labels encouraged the “crew” movement because people are attracted to power– we root for a group of guys (with the always present “murda mami”) “forming like voltron” to take over the industry. This is why the Roc, Dipset,Ruff Ryders, G-Unit, Dungeon Family, Cash Money, Death Row, Bad Boy, etc used this template for success; We WANTED them to win–we felt as though we were a part of the “movement,”the success was shared with us all. The problem in (nearly all) these situations is that the label head is a successful artist themselves, and eventually the other artists don’t want to either A) stay under the shadow of the successful artists or B) continue to share the profit/spotlight with the other artists. Beanie Sigel, much like the Lox before him (First nigga talking that family shit/get a lotta dough don’t give the family shit~ Jadakiss), fell into the mentality that they really “were” a family (due to the culture that was fostered) and that label chain became his home. He forgot about being an artist; he was a “brother” to Shawn. That was why it was so hard to hear Shawn “refuse” to let him out of his contract, or not put him on BP3, or refuse to sign his release papers; he thought Shawn was really the person he had come to know, when in actuality Shawn was simply a Nino Brown– someone promoting friendship until you are no longer useful to his overall plans. This is why it hurts to hear Beans talk about this; sticking with the New Jack Metaphor, Beans represents G Money– A disgruntled fuck-up who really thought this ONE person would be “his brother’s keeper,” regardless of the actions which led up to the final falling out. The Song/conversation and response that Shawn just relayed pretty much juxtaposes the final confrontation between Nino and G-Money, with Shawn’s response being the final shot to the head– he didn’t quite believe what he was saying himself, but he knew he had to create some finality to the situation.
JihaD
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being the daughter of a hustler I was taught how to get my own and never depend on ANY body but myself. I don’t care who say that got me,Plan B and C are already in motion just in case.
Jesus ate with the disciples but was still betrayed with a kiss by Judas.
Sometimes the cross over is a double cross,but if Beans had not been so busy letting his life imitate the Art then he would not be on the other side of that fence, guess his “Spidey Senses” weren’t tinglin?!?
A favor aint never been fair and being a man with as many prison stints as he has,he should’ve known that!
I’m not saying Jay is right I do feel he has been on some other shyt every since the jay and b shyt started but this quote says it best…”This shyt is chess it aint checkers”-Nino Brown
Beans Protect your queen homie …
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Hmm… what the hell is wrong with this nigga? He is still not pushing that hard and it seems he will never make it. Although I think Jay Z should have not said anything, but that’s just my opinion..
@Nathaniel
I feel ya ma dude…
This shit is old news n he still bitch bout shit….
Get ur hustle up beans….
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