Talib Kweli On Jay-Z Illuminati Claims

Saturday, January 02 2010 12:09 PM EST | Posted by: Big Homie | Posted in: Blog, True Story

Since the premiere of Jay-Z’s new video, more conspiracy theories have emerged, accusing Hov of being involved in the Illuminati. This morning on Twitter, Talib shared his thoughts on the propaganda.

Comments (187)

  1. cat says:

    I was just thinking what a sad year it’s been for Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson.

    Every person he ever disses goes on the up and up, while simultaneously Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson goes on the down and down (and down low with Tony Yayo).

    Think about it.

    Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson dissed Kanye. Ye sold a mili.

    Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson dissed Weezy. Weezy sold a mili.

    Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson dissed Jay-Z. Hov sold a mili.

    What a LOSER.

    Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson even lost to Rick Ross. Ross was higher on the hottest MCs list, Ross’s album sold more than Woodface’s, and Ross had one of the hottest albums of the year.

    And lest I forget, who can ignore Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson’s baby mama’s house burning down… PLATINUM SHIT!!!

    And now look at this. Weezy’s traveling all over the world, getting produced by the same French producer who produced Madonna’s hottest album so far.

    While Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson still plunges his tongue deep in Tony Yayo’s chocolate hole.

    2009 was a sad year to be Curtis 50 “baby mama drama” Woodface Johnson.

    He must be happy it’s over.

  2. Nutz says:

    If Jay a freemason based on this vid then so is chris brown, soulja boy, diddy, beyonce, lady gaga and many others

  3. Ty says:

    I’m with Nathaniel as far as being burned out on this topic.

    I just have to say this . it is unreal to me how apathetic people can be . For so many not to even WONDER why a thinker like Jay Z believes it’s worth it to put all of these images in his videos , shows just how YEARS of “dumbed down” entertainment has truly created a people that aren’t curious and don’t ask questions when the answers may be tough to get or to accept . Jay thinks there is something worth enough value to be gained by fighting that battle . Not odd to yall ?

    Who knows what Jay did or didn’t do ? But don’t yall wonder WHY, he keeps goin’ at Jesus, why he keeps these images in his stuff, how he’s the number one dude in the game currently when he’s not the best rapper anymore, etc etc .YALL DON’T EVEN WONDER ?? YALL ARE CLOSED OFF TO EVEN EXPLORING IT ???

    While the low dudes on the totem pole are still talking guns and drugs , don’t yall wonder what the next thing REALLY is that Jay adn Ye and the elite or on to ?

    Jay won’t answer 50 or Beanie but he’d make a WHOLE video to thumb his nose at those that think he sold his soul ? .Nah he don’t fight unless there is a prize to win . What is it ? Who knows? But hats off to the people that are alive enough INSIDE to at least wonder .

  4. yaboitone says:

    BLAQSCORPIO (first off your name sounds like a male stripper but thats besides the point).

    YOUR A DUMBASS!! He’s FLOODING his videos and music with this imagery INSTEAD OF JUST TOSSING IN A FEW, for the same reason that he throws up the middle finger to the camera in the video. He’s saying that no matter how OBVIOUS he makes it, or how BLATANTLY he does what he does, YOU MORONS will still BLINDLY and IGNORANTLY follow and support him. He could come right out and say “he sold his soul to the devil” and DAMN NEAR ALL OF YOU would STILL follow and support him……OH WAIT??….

    HE DID COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT ON HIS VERY FIRST ALBUM!! LMFAO.

    you all are idiots.

  5. TheTruendLivn says:

    HE DID COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT ON HIS VERY FIRST ALBUM!! LMFAO.

    >>
    please quote where he says such a thing.

  6. ... says:

    “HE DID COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT ON HIS VERY FIRST ALBUM!! LMFAO. ”

    So the Illuminati recruited some random drug dealer nigga outta Marcy BK back in the early nineties and set it up so that he could be one of the most successful Hip Hop artists ever in their plan to rule the world… *sigh* BTW with all your “Illuminati” paranoia here’s a piece of advice if your fear of them is so deep then you shouldnt be :

    Using the internet
    Using a computer
    Using a cell phone
    Using a credit card
    Have a bank account
    Be living in any country that requires identification of any kind
    Communicating by email, text ect…
    Using GPS
    Be treated in any hospital

    And that’s just to name a few

    Yet you should be

    Living in a cave or remote location away from all modern day amenities and just living off the land with no contact with the outside world

    Like Talib said it kills me how cats will reach for the most extreme theories yet with actual issues right in front of them they care nothing about IE

    Genocide in Darfur
    Genocide in Rwanda
    The G8 summits
    The pillaging of resources in Africa
    The gentrification of urban neighborhoods forcing the disenfranchised out and the rich moving in
    The starting of wars that have nothing to do with 9/11 but instead an attempt on securing oil
    The mental slavery of black people which is so far gone that they buy into what they think they are and kill each other off

    And that’s to name a few

    So while you might be like “oh you guys are blind” blah blah blah who is really blind to the TRUE issues and menaces in the world and instead choose to focus on an entertainer as the harbinger of the Apocalypse/NWO/Bloody Mary/ The Candyman/ Michael Myers/ Asteroids ect…
    The biggest threat humanity ever faced is fear and ignorance

  7. ReppinHard says:

    ^^^
    CO-SIGN!

  8. Nas says:

    yeah co-sign as well ^^^

  9. Ty says:

    The people that keep stating over and over again that we are ignoring :”real” issues while reaching for outlandish conspiracy theories don’t have any idea whether or not that is true. This isn’t a post about Darfur, or the real reason behind the war in Iraq . So to comment on those things would be out of place .

    On a post about Jay Z’s new video it is appropriate to comment on………. Jay Z’s new video and our impressions of it .

    All these issues yall raise are important, that doesn’t mean this isn’t . The souls of our people are valuable. Look around yourselves . Even our music artists are living crazy and ending up in jail now. Our people are dying inside and out .OUR entertainment is helping to kill them . THAT’S IMPORTANT IN MY OPINION . Yall minimizing it doesn’t make it small . I believe a dark force is strategically killing us as we listen to our music , watch our shows, smoke our weed, dumb out in the club etc. etc . numbing our souls little by little and yall are seeing the results of that in the paper and in the news everyday . Death is the result .

    Is Jay a part of the dark side (not necessarily the illuminati) ? Who knows? But yall acting like this is unimportant is irresponsible and dismissive . And to all yall HIGH MINDED social activists that I’m sure are commenting from the picket lines, when they post about Darfur , the war in Iraq or other world issues, please trust that I will comment on those too. Peace .

  10. HE DID COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT ON HIS VERY FIRST ALBUM!! LMFAO. ”

    So the Illuminati recruited some random drug dealer nigga outta Marcy BK back in the early nineties and set it up so that he could be one of the most successful Hip Hop artists ever in their plan to rule the world… *sigh* BTW with all your “Illuminati” paranoia here’s a piece of advice if your fear of them is so deep then you shouldnt be :

    Using the internet
    Using a computer
    Using a cell phone
    Using a credit card
    Have a bank account
    Be living in any country that requires identification of any kind
    Communicating by email, text ect…
    Using GPS
    Be treated in any hospital

    And that’s just to name a few

    Yet you should be

    Living in a cave or remote location away from all modern day amenities and just living off the land with no contact with the outside world

    Like Talib said it kills me how cats will reach for the most extreme theories yet with actual issues right in front of them they care nothing about IE

    Genocide in Darfur
    Genocide in Rwanda
    The G8 summits
    The pillaging of resources in Africa
    The gentrification of urban neighborhoods forcing the disenfranchised out and the rich moving in
    The starting of wars that have nothing to do with 9/11 but instead an attempt on securing oil
    The mental slavery of black people which is so far gone that they buy into what they think they are and kill each other off

    And that’s to name a few

    So while you might be like “oh you guys are blind” blah blah blah who is really blind to the TRUE issues and menaces in the world and instead choose to focus on an entertainer as the harbinger of the Apocalypse/NWO/Bloody Mary/ The Candyman/ Michael Myers/ Asteroids ect…
    The biggest threat humanity ever faced is fear and ignorance

    ^^^^^^^^^

    BRILLIANT THINKER!!!

    i wish i would have been able to comment that 1st but a co-sign will have to do.

  11. United says:

    Cosign my nigg above, Ty, and …

    Keep thinking

  12. TheTruendLivn says:

    Props to Ricky Retardo, excellent articulation..

  13. Care Free Livin says:

    uh oh….
    my mom is a free mason.
    she is doing the peace sign in a picture…

    =/

    get the fuck out of here

  14. Lunatic says:

    Did you actually expect Talib to speak out against Jay? Of course he’s going to defend him. That would be career suicide for him and he knows it. Thats why he’s kissing ass.

  15. TH says:

    Black folks always want to tear down successful black folks. Sad! That is the new “gossip” in the church though, “Jay-z believes in the devil”. A black pastor in training told me. BUT i also remember him telling me about debit cards, computer chips, Dr. York, aliens, etc….. I guess 2012 wasn’t enough

  16. ctg says:

    I wish people would stop conflating freemasonry, the illuminati and devil worship. They’re 3 separate things.

    Freemasonry is not a secret society. There’s tons of reliable information out there about it if you’re really that interested. It’s basically a modern day, Europeanized version of the Ancient Egyptian mystery systems (African mystery systems). Oh by the way, Christianity and Judaism are also based on things from Ancient Egypt too. It all comes from Africa Black man (and woman). You have a great history that you need to read up on.

    The illuminati is a theory. It’s not real. There was a real illuminati in Europe in the 1700s but that’s not what people refer to when they say it nowadays. When they say it now they’re talking about a shadow world government that is conspiring to unite all countries into one (new world order). Again, this is a theory. There’s no real concrete proof this exists. 2Pac created the idea of Killiuminati, which was a concept that killed the *idea* of the illuminati. According to Pac the idea of the illuminati was just another way to keep people’s self-esteem down, especially African-Americans. If you believe there’s some secret powerful organization keeping you down then you’re not going to try as hard to suceed in life. You need to kill that belief and start to work harder. That’s why Pac did 5 songs a day and had a crazy work ethic. He didn’t believe in the illuminati, he believed in himself (self-esteem).

    And devil worship, well that’s worshiping the devil. Baphomet or whatever. I haven’t done that much reading into that.

    As far as Jay-Z goes he’s not illuminati (because it doesn’t exist). He might be a mason. Also, he seems to have a new found obsession with Aleister Crowley, who was involved in the Ordo Templi Orientis and Thelema. The Beatles and Michael Jackson featured Crowley’s face on their album covers by the way (Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band & Dangerous respectively). Jay featured Crowley’s face in the “Run This Town” video and also was seen wearing a “do what thou wilt” shirt in interviews (which comes from Thelema). While Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) does include Baphomet I’m not ready to call Jay a devil worshiper yet. I need to do some more reading about it before I come to a conclusion.

    I suggest you all do the same too. Don’t rely on youtube and blogs for your information. Go to the library and do your own research. Be critical in your thinking.

  17. blaqscorpio says:

    @ Yaboitone

    Whether he is or he isn’t, he DOESN’T control my life! I’m not sure about you though, you seem a bit too invested in how he chooses to live his life.

    Let’s add to this list though:

    Oprah
    Tiger
    Russell Simmons
    Diddy
    Bob Johnson
    50 etc

    Just add every minority doing good for themselves on to the list

  18. Ty says:

    @ ctg

    Very well said . I appreciate your willingness to at least research this . It warrants that at least . Also emphasizing as I have that the three organizations in question aren’t necessarily the same . Good comment .

    Not sure whether the illuminati actually exists or not though. Researching it . Peace and keep being critical, anything or anybody real can stand the critique, those that have something to hide can’t stand it . Nor can their followers .

  19. iLLersz1 says:

    Fuck Kweli Fack muslim ..

  20. ... says:

    @ctg

    Thank you as well glad to see there are actual people not following the preconceived notions of the masses, investigating things for themselves and coming to their own conclusions. Use your brains people for what you think you know might not actually be so. Be the mind not the mob.

  21. Oj Da Cornball says:

    He’s trying controversy now. Taking advantage of what he know they saying already. yet he is part of it.

    Kwali knows thing.

  22. So Icy Boi! says:

    Talib Kweli know they are all Freemasons Rihanna, Jay-Z, & Kanye West ….Why would u even respond to some shit dat been goin on since slavery??….that nigga in it too so …first of all why even waist ya time speaking on it??? you aint got shit too do with it

  23. United says:

    ^^^^^^

    Grammar Lessons

    Heres a link my brother.

    http://www.dailygrammar.com/

    he’s speaking on it for the same reasons YOU myself and these 70 + comments have

    and plus the other blog.

    think about it.

  24. News Flash says:

    Breaking story…

    Every Geometry And Trigonometry teacher is a free mason…

    rulers…..

    TRIANGLES.
    weird shapes…

    Pentagons.

    oh no…

    hahahhahahahahahahahahahahah.

    Im sorry. dont wanna burst yall’s bubble, but okay. lets just say jay IS a freemason, how has that affected you? does that make you wanna join??
    does that video brainwash and rape your feeble mindss??
    if so, then you were just plain stupid to begin with.

    if music makes you wanna go out and do something stupid then you are stupid. its that simple.

    oh is it proof you are asking for?

    think of young children, undeveloped minds right?
    they see al pacino cussing on scarface, what do they do?

    they run out to the living room and SCREAM BITCH, FFUCK, SHIT, SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND.

    my little cousin did when he was younger.

    im just sayin yall.

    use your mind. dont be influenced by what the media, the blogs the internet says,

    cuz if the free masons and illuminati are as powerful as you guys think. wouldnt they be controling that too??

    - Mayor West.

    hahahahah

    just pick up a bible and shut up.

    tommorow is sunday, give God the glory and stop worrying about Jay-Z.

    im sure our Father will be proud of that.

  25. PAX says:

    There is a huge difference between beign in the Illuminati and beign used by the illuminati.

    Annuit cœptis do your research.

  26. klol says:

    He’s trying controversy now. Taking advantage of what he know they saying already. yet he is part of it.

  27. News Flash says:

    word ^^^^^

  28. News Flash says:

    word to PAX

  29. Pac says:

    Tupac said it best.

    fear is stronger than love,

    yall are scared

    it shows

  30. Dan says:

    Bunch of fucking Fruit Loop lookin’ muhfuckas in here. You niggas need to get some sleep and put the pipe down.

  31. So Icy Boi! says:

    Yea i guess 2 Pac aint say Killuminati for a reason ??? 2 Pac was lying huh? aint no Illuminati …..SMH 2 Pac named hes album “Killuminati” for fun??? and i guess 2 Pac dissed Nas and Jay-Z for no reason?

  32. PAX says:

    Jay maybe is a freemason who knows… but the Illuminati is some other type of order, there are different kinds of freemasonary lodges those recognized under the Scottish rite that is mainly based in the United kingdom and there are other lodges that are not recognize by this order, already there you have two kinds of freemasonary systems. Secret societies can manifest themselves trough various ways and are not necessarily all connected they deal with valuable knowledge that if you take enough time you can find in a good library. These people deal with the “occult” which can be simply translated by hidden knowledge mostly related with ancient egypt, within these groups there is good people and bad ones just like in real life, you can even find freemasons building hospitals and helping their communities but there is also other societies that are not necessarily connected to freemasons in most cases is people dealing in financial circles and banker’s societies; the trilateral commission, the council of foreign relations, the Bilderberger etc. This information is out there they are not hiding nothing from you if you feel like making a difference there are many ways to do so, if the hip hop generation would only start opening more books and poppin less pills maybe our immediate communities would be different, education and knowledge of self that’s what’s up…and btw i think the video is nice but besides that whatever beliefs jay has is not my business as long as i know what i believe in.

    Peace

  33. Pt Onassis says:

    I guess ignorance is bliss. Real talk people, I’m a Prince Hall Freemason, my father was, my grandfather was, and my great grandfather probably was. I was raised in the Methodist Church. Today I am an executive in a oil company, my father is a retired lawyer, but guess what, I’m also a fucking QUE, and a married man, and a father. Oh did I mention, I was made a Freemason while in college, I had QUES, Kappas, Sigmas, Alphas, and Iotas in the room when I went over, here’s what is going to fuck all you ignorant bastards up, who dont know what the fuck you are talking about, the whole process involved THE BIBLE & GOD, no bullshit. I mean I got no reason to lie, the Devil never got the respect of being mentioned, nor did Iluminati. BUT, and here is what is crazy about us as black people, when one of our own make it beyond what some ignorant ass nobody believes is acceptable, then we say they worship the devil or they are apart of the New World Order, or they sold their fucking soul. GET A FUCKING LIFE AND WAKE UP.

    TO BE ONE ASK ONE. Simple as that. If you can’t do that then shut the fuck up about Freemasonary, because it help some our generations make it through the fucking oppression, the real opression that the White American put upon us for years. And look at us, on hear downing another black man for making it, and being in a position to dictate the culture of that which we love HIP-HOP. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE STILL HERE ON THIS SITE BECAUSE OF HIP HOP, FUCK THAT. If the Iluminati, has a trick for our collective asses, then they got us years ago, with the damn BOOM BAP, and the bass heavy medolies, and flipping of verbs and nouns. BASIC THOUGHT IS THE PLAUGE OF OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE.

    Get over your damn selves, Jay isn’t the only person that can make it, shit we all can, get your ass up and make it. Then see who says if your Black ass sold your soul.

  34. RARA!! says:

    TALIB IS LAME For Speaking On Another Man’s Business!
    Did That Nigga Ask U To Defend Him… LAME??!!

    If It Walks Like A Duck And Quacks Like A Duck..It Ain’t Rocket Science Nigga! It’s DUCK!

    Where There’s Smoke There’s Fire!!!

    From D’evils,Lucifer,”Jesus Can’t Save U”, images of the Baphomet in His Video,Masters Of The Craft 666 on his clothing!

    I Don’t Like His Flow And Music Enough To Ignore What’s Obvious In My Face!

  35. PAX says:

    i Guess Talib and Hi tek is dropping soon…twitter the new way to make a publicity stunt.

  36. blackgracekelly says:

    Re Jay’s recent wearing of T-shirts that say: “Do what thou Wilt”

    “Despite the frequent assumption that ‘Do what thou Wilt’ is solely an exhortation to hedonism or licentiousness, Thelema as it was formulated by Crowley is a path of spiritual development based on seeking and putting into practice one’s True Will, or destiny—the soul’s Will rather than the ego’s desires.”

  37. Ty says:

    Some of yall are so in denial it’s pathetic . I don’t have anything against Jay for “making it” . I am proud that someone from our culture is an icon, not only to us but to the rest of the nation and even the world . That’s the silliest defense I’ve ever heard . Who’s saying Rob Johnson is a devil worshipper ? What about Jordan ? Lebron ? Tiger ? Bill Cosby ? Oprah ? Denzel Washington ? They’ve all made it who’s saying they are involved with the occult ? Nobody is saying it about them because they aren’t hitting us over the head with blasphemous lyrics, and occult images . Jay deserves these questions because he’s brought them on himself . Quit being so proud of him that you can’t see the obvious . He’s black but so what ? If he would use my soul as fuel for his rise to the top his being black don’t make me ignore that fact .

    Also just because some of yall may be in some order or another , please don’t flatter yourselves that you know all there is to know about the organization . They all have their secrets . Not necessarily eerie or ominous, but don’t defend too hard what you can’t know in full .

    Lastly I keep seeing people commenting things like, ” Just know what you believe, if you do this can’t affect you …” and , ” I’m not scared , my God is bigger than illuminati or devil worshippers….”
    I can appreciate where both comments are coming from but come on yall . WE DON’T LIVE IN A BUBBLE ! . It’s like thinking because you’re a good driver that you will never get in a car accident. Somebody else sucking behind the wheel can just as easily have you 6 feet deep . See what I mean ? If these people are walking around under the influence of dark forces due to music that perpetuates the darkness then when they rob you, or rape a female related to you, or shoot you for no reason will you care then ? Does it matter then ? Will you care about the forces of darkness and their real agenda then ? If Jay has really sold his soul , that’s what the enemy would use him for . To sow seeds of death and destruction .

    God truly is bigger than everything that opposes us but until he takes us outta here we are to try to make a difference . Not just sit back in the truth keep it to ourselves . I was done but I had to give another perspective on the same 2 or 3 defenses for Jay that keep coming up . Wake up and quit thinking that making it financially in this world is the end all be all . You can be ROTTEN and still be rich . Money is not my God . It’s some people’s though, cause they’ll curse the real God just to get some more of it .

  38. cpmedia81 says:

    talib spread his butt cheeks and told satan to enter. fuck all this shit. END OF TIMES!!! HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF RELIGION, ART, AND SELF AND YOU TO CAN SEE THIS BULLSHIT HAPPENING. IF YOU HAVE A GUN MAKE SURE YOUR SCOPE IS ON THE POPE AND POPTHAT CRACKER

  39. yaboitone says:

    lol. lmao. TO ALL OF THOSE WHO REALIZE THE TRUTH, which is JAY-Z IS IN LEAGUE WITH AN EVIL POWER GREATER THAN HIMSELF (WHETHER IT BE THE ILLUMINATI, SATAN, OR BOTH)

    PLEASE STOP ARGUING WITH EVERYONE ELSE. You can tell by ALL of their arguments, that they are already either ignorant, brainwashed already, in denial, or JUST PLAIN STUPID. The fact that most of them don’t even realize what this “evil” has to gain, by brainwashing them is proof enough that they just have NO CLUE what is going on. I AM FULLY AWARE of what they want, so FEAR has nothing to do with anything. It’s simply a matter of being aware because the old saying goes:

    IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN SOMETHING, YOU WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING and all of you who don’t see the obvious right in front of your faces are classic examples of this fact. SO KEEP ON worshiping YOUR GOD “J-Hova” and he will lead you EXACTLY where he wants you to go whether you realize it or not.

    @THETRUEENLIVN: Being “subjective” doesn’t mean turning a blind eye or being ignorant to OBVIOUS truths either. You can only call something “coincidence” so many times, before LOGIC forces you to accept it as fact. There isn’t just ONE Jay-z, rhianna, beyonce, kanye, Rocafella, video/song/show/quote/ or image that reveals the truth about these people……..THE REVELATIONS ARE ALL OVER EVERYTHING THEY DO!!!! So suck a real fat dick with that subjective bullshit you spittin.

  40. dman says:

    well look how much he got u fuckers talkin get a life then some pussy then a job oh and i dont give a fuck even if he is a masonic mindfucker hes not mindfuckin me im not illuminati never will be so ill move onto the next one

  41. People love to wax religious and spiritual on the beliefs of other people. I have no problem with people making arguments as to the beliefs of an individual, but don’t take the lyrics and video imagery of an artist out of context to make that point. Religion is and has always been a poisonous elixir that society could never get enough of. Religion and so-called Secret Societies, that is, as they both function the same way – like oligarchies. Power in the hands of a few at the top, intellectuals in the middle, and the clueless at the bottom.

    This line, “…when Jesus can’t save you, life starts when the church ends…” is real rap. This is not a dis on God or Jesus, or a proclamation of his allegiance to Baphomet. But if you’re gonna believe in something, at least know how it’s supposed to work. God works through people, and if there is no one around to help you, nine time out of ten, your’e not gonna see an act of God in your life (even if he does act); immediately, at least. Thus, when Jesus can’t save you, life starts when the church ends.

    Church folks and New World Order conspiracy theorists are going crazy with this. But yet, are totally clueless about any of it. People in secret societies don’t openly recruit, at least not in the way some of you are saying Jay is. The society would not be a secret for too long, now would it?

    But let’s not be naive either. Secret Societies are not myths; they do exist. But the ones that we should be worried about, we don’t even know the names of. Which goes to the comment dude/oh girl made about the Iraq War and our real reason as a nation for going over there. Do some research about the society Cheney, Bush and others belong to. Jay-Z would probably never be asked to participate.

    Jay’s just playing with y’all.

  42. Nathaniel says:

    @ Pt Onassis

    yep. Prince Hall. thank you my nigga. this is partly EXACTLY what i’ve been telling these fools. for those of you who need further clarification, in Atlanta, Ga, right next to Madame CJ Walker’s beauty salon lies THE ORIGINAL SCLC OFFICE. (Southern Christian Leadership Conference, founded by your beloved Martin Luther King). and guess what is next door, around the corner to that….

    yep, you guessed it. an old Prince Hall Mason building. another little known fact is that the Prince Hall masons funded a lot of the SCLC’s efforts in the 50′s and 60′s …including the development of most of those black and white photographs that documented the marches.

    i guess now its time to turn your attention to MLK and say he was a devil worshipping secret society monger too huh. ridiculous. and ty regardless of how objective you come off, its clear from all these posts (reading comprehension) that you obviously believe all this shit. but once again, history history history. it shows where we’ve been, how we got where we are, and the demand of the times.

    some of u bible toting scripture readers would do well to couple that with a true understanding of your own history, to balance those verses with the clarity of the history of the world. the truth is in that knowledge. that way you won’t have to speculate and wonder back n forth. you’d KNOW, and wouldn’t be talking all that opinion shit.

    its no secret. none of this shit. fools distracted by illuminati, as if that shit, and all their supposed rituals, has something to do with…iono…

    the literacy scores of black male 3rd graders being used as a measuring stick to how many FOR PROFIT prisons are built in america. you can read all the spook stories you want, that ain’t gone keep our young brothers out of that trap. look around you.

  43. DanM says:

    what difference do it make? watch it or dont watch it. daamn

  44. Hova says:

    yall eminem stans are lame for saying jay z is trying to copy off of 3 am nobody cares about eminem this 2010 not 2001

  45. cpmedia81 says:

    yeah nobody cares about em… lmao. but satan sprays jizz on jiggas face

  46. rocstar says:

    LOL someone is probably printing out a transcript of all these comments and giving them to hov and he is probably laughing his ass of

  47. BE says:

    “Jigga held you down 6 summers, damn. Where’s the love?”

  48. BE says:

    On a serious tip, if you listen to hip-hop you shouldn’t even be tripping off this. We live in a fallen world.

    Like Lupe said on “Hurt Me Soul”

    Now I ain’t tryna be the greatest
    I used to hate hip-hop… yup, because the women degraded
    But Too $hort made me laugh, like a hypocrite I played it
    A hypocrite I stated, though I only recited half
    Omittin the word “bitch,” cursin I wouldn’t say it
    Me and dog couldn’t relate, til a bitch I dated
    Forgive my favorite word for hers and hers alike
    But I learnt it from a song I heard and sorta liked
    Yeah, for the icin, glamorized drug dealin was appealin
    But the block club kept it from in front of our buildin
    Gangsta rap-based filmings became the buildin blocks
    For children with leakin ceilings catchin drippins with pots
    Coupled with compositions from Pac, Nas’s “It Was Written”
    In the mix with my realities and feelings
    Living conditions, religion, ignorant wisdom and artistic vision
    I began to jot, tap the world and listen, it drop

    I had a ghetto boy bop, a Jay-Z boycott
    ‘Cause he said that he never prayed to God, he prayed to Gotti
    I’m thinkin godly, God guard me from the ungodly
    But by my 30th watchin of “Streets is Watchin”
    I was back to givin props again and that was botherin
    By this uncomfortable as a untouchable touchin you
    The theme songs that niggas hustle to seem wrong but these songs was comin true
    And it was all becoming cool..

    We’ve all seen worse and heard worse. If this upsets you so much why not leave 100 comments about all the negative things hip-hop portrays. Women half naked in videos, the violent lyrics, the glorification of drug use. There is toooo many things that you can speak on.

    And all of those who trip on him being a Mason or Illuminati need to just chill too. Because that’s the dumbest thing in the world. Who cares if he is a Mason. My best friend is a Mason and several of my fraternity brothers.

    Just my two cents. Don’t care to really discuss religion on a hip-hop blog. So I won’t get into that. Peace.

  49. Supermalt says:

    @ctg

    You missed out the word “corrupted”. Dunno if that was intentional or not, but by ommiting that word, you are justifying its current form and practice, which is not just by any means.

    Peace.

  50. Ty says:

    @ Nathaniel

    When you say it’s obvious I believe all of this stuff , what do you mean ? I believe that music is one tool used to mislead our people yes . Jay Z whether knowingly or not does it too . By his lyrics and by his use of images and what he promotes as important .

    Is he illuminati ? I don’t know . Is there an illuminati ? I don’t know . Do people sell their souls for real ? Yes . Did he ? Don’t know but if he didn’t he uses more images from that arena then most I’ve seen . Don’t believe all freemasons are bad . Do they all know everything there is to about the organization ? I doubt it . The higher ups , probably hold a few things back .

    I never claimed to be objective . I am just open to other opinions. You I don’t necessarily disagree on most things if you get right down to it . A lot of what you say is true. You just fail to include the use of music and other mediums within our culture on the list of things that are helping to hurt our people. I also resent the fact that you and others assume that I’m on Jay all day everyday to the exclusion of other more important issues . That’s presumptuous and in my case most incorrect . I KNOW where we are as a people. I KNOW where we came from . I also know that our own artists (Jay is just a microcosm of the bigger picture) are under the influence of dark powers and it is permeating the minds and hearts and minds of our people . The evidence is everywhere around you .

    So while yall keep hollering black history, and keep minimizing the effect that evil spirits CAN have (whether or not Jay’s purposely doing it for fame,) , and while yall act like we live in isolated bubbles and don’t have to live around people who’s souls are full of the hatred and darkness that these spirits bring, through music and the use of occult images that DO have power . I will keep telling people to at least think about the possibility that some of these dudes took a payoff to mislead us . I KNOW the truth, but what does that mean for the people down the street that don’t that are falling victim to this crap . The soul is the driver’s seat of the body , THAT’S why the war is on for that part of us . We’re losing and yall are too blind to see why , cause ,”It’s just music, why don’t yall get on something more important ……if you don’t like it don’t listen.” How is that gonna help my son who has to go to school with syrup sippin’ , gun totin’ , hateful young people that are being rotted from the inside out by our own art forms? How does what I know help me then? Knowledge is to be shared . So we can ALL live .

    Throughout my posts I’ve only spoken for me . Please don’t attribute anyone else’s words , thoughts or beliefs to me . If you don’t care enough to read all my posts I understand , but then don’t assume what I believe or don’t believe . I’ve been honest and I sincerely weigh other’s opinions . I don’t know it all . I’m learning , and I want to know more .

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