Cornel West Says Jay-Z Isn’t Motivated
Monday, February 08 2010 1:54 PM EST | Posted by: Big Homie | Posted in: Blog, True Story
Before Dr. Cornel West’s speech at The Center for the Arts in Buffalo Friday night, he spoke with The Spectrum on random topics including his view of Hip-Hop and Pop music on the radio.
Now I’m an old school hip-hop guy, and I know you’re big on that stuff and have even been mentioned in Lupe Fiasco songs. I’m kind of skeptical of modern hip-hop, pop kind of stuff. What’s your view of all of the stuff on the radio?
CW: Guys like Talib Kweli and Lupe Fiasco rap messages and have something to say. Now Jay-Z is on the radio and he’s talented, but he’s just not at the level he use to be at on Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint. The genius is still there, but there’s no more motivation.





Man, miss me with the fake Jay and B quotes already. Headlines. Some of you sites will do anything for attention and traffic. You really believed B would speak to Star magazine? Tuck your tabloid in. And why would Hov need to write a letter to his daughter? Bitch please. He wrote a song! It's called "Glory" and it's pretty fuckin' revealing. He went on the record (double entendre) but you still don't get it. You may hear baby Blue's first cries but no you don't know her height, weight or what she looks like. And no you ain't gettin' a flick, fool. Can new parents get some privacy? Even if they are celebrities. Sheesh! Who raised you animals? Party at the 40/40. Paps outside. Rushin' the velvet rope. Don't trip over your integrity.
Put us here if you like. The RR store stays open 24/7. SOPA? Yeah we Showcase Our Product Always. And we're gonna continue straight ahead til somebody up there turns out the lights. Start from scratch? I'm not afraid.
true, he ain’t talk about
shit since 03 “black album”
he just follows the hype.
does what hot at the moment
Nas>Jay
Negro please
somebody give him a copy of American Gangster
I Love Jay But C.West Kinda Has A Point I Mean At This Point There Are Still Shades Of Greatness But It Does At Times Feel Like Jay’s Just Making Music To Make Music With No Real Purpose And I Consider Myself To Be A Jay-Hova’s Witness But Even Then It’s Hard Not To Notice This…
it’s Hov’s prerogative to talk about whatever he wants, he doesn’t owe anybody anything.
Why is this non-sense even receiving a post?
I completely agree, minus American Gangster, BP3 and Kingdom Come lacked hunger
DEFINTELY TRUE..what was BP3 even supposed to be about? I have no clue what he’s trying to accomplish musically anymore..no direction, seems like he just wants to perform at big events and collect grammies to compete with Beyonce.
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he’s said in interviews that he doesn’t want to be the hottest rapper. he wants to be the BEST. Hell, if beating Elvis’ record wasn’t motivation, than i dont know what is.
Jay has never been much of a substance rapper… he has material is much stronger than others, but in comparison to certain artists…(Nas, Scarface, Ice Cube, etc) his shit is incredibly dumbed down!
Cornel West is off the mark. Jay-Z is rapping from the perspective of a TRUE, big-time boss. It’s a perspective that no other current rappers can really rap from. I think Jay-Z just wants to give the world (the hip-hop community, in particular) a whole ‘nother view. That doesn’t mean he isn’t motivated.
Whats the matter Big Homie? Can’t accept the truth? Take the dick out already!
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Rap Radar’s #1 fan.
THAT NIGGA JAY CAN TALK ABOUT WUT THE FUCK HE WANT!!!! I MEAN DOES EVERY SONG HE WRITE GOTTA HAVE A MESSAGE??!! JAY ALWAYS HAS MESSAGES ON ALL HIS ALBUMS!!!! JUST NOT ON EVERY SONG!!!! ARTISTS LIKE TALIB N LUPE ALWAYS HAVE MESSAGES ON THEIR SONGS CUZ THEY DO CONSCIOUS RAP!!!! JAY WAS NEVER A CONSCIOUS RAPPER!!!! THAT’S NOT JAY!!!! BUT HE’LL STILL PUT OUT SONGS WIT MESSAGES!!!! SOMETIMES U GOT GUYS LIKE DR. WEST WHO SOMETIMES GET A LITTLE AHEAD OF THEMSELVES N ARE TOO SMART FOR THEIR OWN GOOD!!!! LIGHTEN UP CORNEL!!!!
DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!!
I did not this site was marketing site for Jay-Z. Why can someone criticize him without this site catching feeling?
“And the music i be makin
I dumb down for my audience
And double my dollars
They criticize me for it
Yet they all yell “Holla”
If skills sold
Truth be told
I’d probably be
Lyricly
Talib Kweli
Truthfully
I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
(But i did five Mil)
I ain’t been rhymin like Common since”- jayz “moment of clarity”
ENOUGH SAID!
@another Mike I concur
That’s what im saying PREACH!!! ….niggaz sayin Jay-Z lyrical and have songz with meaning …. but what makes Jay-Z different from Lil Wayne and Gucci Mane?? … niggaz only like him because he from New York …he talk about money, cars, clothes, jewelry and how he use to sell drugs .. dis nigga stop selling drugs in 1990 and he still talkin about how he use to do it?? ….dis nigga never made one real song….
I’m surprised by Cornel West’s comments. They seem like someone with a cursory knowledge of hip hop would say. If you actually listen to some of the songs he put out on his last few albums there are some substantive songs on there.
“No Hook” American Gangster
“Fallin” off American Gangster
“Minority Report” off Kingdom Come
“Meet the Parents” off Blueprint 2
“Somehow Someway” off Blueprint 2
If Mr. West were to listen to the lyrics of these songs I think he would feel differently. It’s also easy to forgot how substantize Jay-z can be because he has so many popular commercial songs that get heavy rotation that people tend to simplify him to those tracks.
its 2010 people…reasonable doubt. illmatic and all that shit is not and will not work!!! Cornell is not in the game and doesnt understand this…
look at the line above “IF SKILLS SOLD…….”….raps changed…its not about who raps the best or is the most lyrical….this is not 1994
@ so icy boi….go listen to soula boy…jayz is not for you,….youre to dumb to understand obviously
OH SHIT YN aka HI YELLA NINJA…WEST TALKIN’ SALTY BOUT YOUR MAN CRUSH!!! I PREDICT YN WILL BE UPDATING YN BLACKOUT IN 5, 4, 3……
JAY NEVER BEEN A RAPPER OF SUBSTANCE…WHY CHANGE NOW??? DUDE STICKS WITH THE SAME SUBJECT WHICH INCLUDES HIS MONEY, HIS HI YELLA B*TCH(HE SAID, NOT ME) HOW MUCH MORE HE CAN MAKE, ANYTHING TO DO WITH MONEY AND TY TY AS A SHOUTOUT. AND I STILL DON’T THINK MR CARTER THE BEST….HE’S ONE THE BEST THOUGH…INDEED
read the lyrics to the songs “dashing” just posted above…
people who say jay only talks about cars, clothes, money etc obviously arent listening…..they are bleeding hate…
thats natural when you are on top…..funny, we had people in high school who said jordan sucked and was overrated…..smh
stop it people, just stop it
I guess one requirement to work at RapRadar is to be a Jay-Z stan like YN.
yea blueprint 3 was so commercialized the bangers got and I never said this about Jay but shit got cheesy Run This Town got so cheesy it was unbearable and Empire State of Mind got played after a while too DOA was a hot tracc but i listen to it the other day it lowkey sounded like my dude was Hating on the New Generation but he been lowkey stealing they swag like he telling niggas to grow the fucc up he still wearing teenage clothing tees and sagging jeans
Jigga is on a level but this is why he can’t be called GOAT, it’s not of matter of what he owes us it’s what he owes the culture!! He said don’t drink Cristal niggaz stop drinking that shit, he said stop wearing Hilfiger that whiteboy is still begging fo our support!! Jay is @ the forefront of our culture & he owes it to our forefathers like Grandmaster Flash & the furious Five, Afrika Bambata, Public Enemy, BDP etc to educate the youngins bout what’s going on!! Lil kids can tell u bout Gucci, Fendi, Maybach’s & Purple Labels but don’t know their own civil rights!!
@DARKAQUA haha ….and i agree des nigga talk about the same shit niggaz from the south talk about MONEY, CARS DRUGS, …..How do that make Jay-Z when he never had one real song … compare all 2 Pac songz with all Jay-Z …. 2 Pac spoke about the black community ….what song Jay-Z ever made about the community or struggle in the streets (besides his struggle about him)
send me a link ? …..Gay-Z OVERRATED nothing special ….Jay-Z like Plies niggaz been tellin nothing but lies Gay-Z aint never been to jail or sold drugs ……@another mike “let Jay-Z dick go”
Niggas is mad cuz jay on top he is the mike jordan of his business
rapradar to the rescue, again! egor, thou art….
Fuck outa here thunderkush. You’re ass wouldn’t know lyricism if harvard taught it to you. Jay sold the fuck out. Nigga talks about bullshit now. I listened to bp3 for a sec then deleted it on the spot. Relapse was better than that shit. And relapse sucked.
He seems to have more bey bey on his mind and he seems lost.
I concur with Mr. Cornel.
butthurt? truth hurts
@so icy…
dashing just posted songs for you to listen to….go listen to meet the parents….go listen to ballad of a fallen soldier….go listen to where have you been….
as far as jay tellin lies….my boys daddy is a retired FBI agent….he told us jay had shit on lock in NY all the way down to MD eastern shore…fbi followed him for years. his divison was on his tail…they were very aware of what him and his crew were doing…they could never catch him red handed…and the people they caught, never snitched…I.E…emory jones…what more proof do you need? jays stories arent fake…
here we go again with pac and different subject matter BS….sorry that jay trys to uplift his community by preaching success instead of constantly talking about struggles….use his success as motivation to get to where he is or do even better…i dont want to relate to struggles…i want to relate to success
i still say reasonable doubt is relevant as its ever been, jayz is still alive and doing well. plus he has never been that tupac or chuck d type of rapper but i defintely get messages from jigga and they good ones.
I concur with Dr West. Jay-Z lacks substance. Scarface is the best rapper alive period! Suck a dick till u hiccup to all the bashers of my post. The Uptown Stunta has spoken. Continue with your day peasants. (DR EVIL LAUGH) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thank god we have Dr. Cornel West to break it down for us, cuz we’d never be able to see that for ourselves.
@another mike NIGGA STFU !!! “my boys daddy is a retired FBI agent….he told us jay had shit on lock in NY all the way down to MD eastern shore” …LMAO stop lieing ! …. niggaz will do anything to defend there idol/god Jay-Z……. i just listened to them songz and i cant take them “Illuminati” lyrics seriously
HONESTLY I DON’T NEED THAT FROM JAY THOUGH…JUST ENTERTAIN ME. THE GAME NEEDS A VARIETY, DON’T EVERYBODY GOT TO BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
IF I WANT TO HEAR A BEAUTIFUL SONG BOUT ASSATA SHAKUR…I LISTEN TO COMMON
IF I WANT TO DANCE OR WANT SOMETHING I CAN JUST JAM TO IN THE CAR…I LISTEN TO JAY
THE LANE JAY STAYS IN…IT WORKS, WHY CHANGE NOW. SOME IN THE GAME TO EDUCATE, SOME TO ENTERTAIN
See, If that was anybody else making statements about camel face like that they would be considered a hater….C’mon Son! JAY Z sucks and thats all that can be said. Call me a Jay hater all you want but the man aint dropped nothing to write home about in like close to 10yrs.
not the hugest Jay fan, but it’s mad cliché for so called “smart” people to always name the *so-called* positive rappers who have a quote unquote message. it’s lazy cultural criticism. it’s shortcuts. but that’s what i expect from C. West. when I was growing up, “positive” rappers had hits. made noise. i’m not interested in rappers who are so uninterested in the masses they don’t make music good enough to engage the masses. Public Enemy is the real blueprint. Musical geniuses, the whole team. Mos? Lupe? hello?
When your music is rooted from an honest emotional stand point. You have carrers such as jay-z’s I feel that he has matured perfectly with in his rhymes. His message is look at me i did it you can to. He excudes motivation if he didn’t make another rap record ever he would still be a standing pillar of motivation just due to his accomplishments. We forget he was piss poor with ashy knuckles, and from the ghetto. To make it to his stature politically and financially and to not have succumb to the woes of stardom ( drug addiction, fame addiction, Prison time. Cornel west should have really thought about his statment before he made it. And approached the topic from a much broader stand point. That was always jay’s best abilty to view things with a very broad range of vision. hence “one day you sitiing in the seven the next day alibis a matching up the bullshit cathcing up ready to start sniching aint u i get it husling just aint u” and so on it’s a million angles to a situation but to be able to calculate them all and bring that prospective to your listners is SHEER MOTIVATION… THREE DOTS FOR THE CONTINUUM…
Hov on dat new shit, niggas like how come?!..Mr West want Hov old shit, well buy his old albums!!..And everybody talkin bout he make music jus to make it is bullshit!..No one is mad at MJ for never leaving the NBA (Bobcats)..Hov said in 2001 on Addicted to the Game..I guess it’s jus the need to be heard, I need niggas to say I can’t believe your words!..I’m jus a addict addicted to music, thoughts is sporadic I gotta unconfuse it..It’s sorta like a Rubik’s Cube is..every album’s a color, but I fuck up the other..color!
@ so icy…
“jay talks about cars clothes and money”….this coming from a person who calls himself “so icy”….oh the irony
idiot
@noris and hollaback…preach bro
The Rap Jerry Rice is back to fulfill the need, tho he leads the league!
damn, it never fails to surprise me how many dick riding faggots there are in this world.
I can understand Kids worshipping Jay Z, but anybody older then 20 riding his negro need to look in the mirror and ask themselves where the fuck you’ve gone wrong in life, seriously. IF JAY Z IS SUCH A BOSS WHERE ARE THE BLACK DISTRIBUTORS? Or how about Movie Production? WHERE IS THE ROCAFELLA FILM LOT/STUDIO ??? If he’s a boss why ain’t he printing his own discs and making his own movies? If he’s such a boss why is he signing 360 deals where he has to perform for the next 10 years?Jay Z is damn near 45 years old, so he gonna be on stage rapping till he 55??? That ain’t a BOSS, that ain’t even an CAPO. Jay’s motivation is to sell more than Elvis ? How about being the next Jimmy Ivine ? See, Jay Z don’t wanna swerve in Jimmys lane, COS THATS A REAL BOSS RIGHT THERE. Ya boy Jay ain’t nothing but the first multi millonare minstrel. And the worse part, Black America is so fucked up in 2010 that the MONEY he’s made means that anybody who criticises him is called a hater, even Cornel West. WELL GUESS WHAT, BUSH GOT MORE PAPER THEN JIGGA SO IS ANYBODY SAYING FUCK BUSH A PLAYA HATER ??? …and people wonder why Hip Hop is dead, IT DIED WHILE JAY Z OLD ASS WAS RUNNING IT, don’t forget that.
what did Jay Z say about KATRINA ???
nothing, but he supposed to be the GOD EMCEE, the KING OF HIP HOP.
but he ain’t say SHIT after KATRINA ?
FUCK AN AMERICAN GANGSTA ALBUM, WHERE WAS THE KATRINA ALBUM ?
he need his Hip Hop pass revoked just for that.
Rodney King, for those old enough to remember, was a spark for Hip Hop in the 1990′s.
You mean to tell me all them people died in Katrina and Hip Hop was silent ?
SILENT and HIP HOP don’t mix.
sound like House Negroes are running this rap shit.
I let you tell it. ONE.
i don’t know why niggas expect Jay-Z to be a mirror image of talib kweli. he’s never been that. he’s always been on honest, and always had balanced, autobiographical subject matter. when you do that, “conscious rap” goes out the window.
name a conscious rapper who consistently talks about their life, past and present, and all its triumphs, victories, and defeats. the good and the bad. the complexities of LIFE. not a one…why? cuz they’re too busy talking about everyone else’s.
Ok i do agree that jay isn’t the same but someone please tell me,are you gonna rap the same in 2010 as you were rapping in 95,think about it people 15 years I could care less about jay-z i don’t no that nigga but for real you gotta give him credit he is still putting out music that is getting run and tell me who else is doing it the way he is at his age.
mr cornel or whoever …jay z doesn’t owe anyone ….nobody helped him get out of marcy projects …he did it by himself…the truth about black people is we destroy the reputations of our own people..just days before the man most of you are trying to question opened up doors for hiphop(superbowl cormecial)…its the same with will smith and movies …blacks can’t stand their own being sucessfull and i think we would continue to be poor forever …because all we do is try to blame…and you guys dn’t get it twisted am from ghana (africa) …and i appreciate jay z because he had the heart to work kofi annan to work on water for life project in africa….no one talks about the good things he’s been doing…..i ve not seen Mr west on that side of the world …soo he should go fcuk himself
NO..YOU GTFOH..WHO CARES THO..
@ Nathaniel
YEAH, U SEE IT HOW I SEE IT!!!! REAL RECOGNIZE REAL!!!! ONE!!!!
DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!