Are veteran MCs trying too hard? Well, for the inaugural episode of Life and Times‘ “The Truth”, our Elliott Wilson gives evaluations of LL Cool J’s “Ratchet”, Fat Joe’s “Instagram That Hoe“, and Eve’s “She Bad Bad”. Unfortunately, none of these are easy on the ears.
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Fuck Harvey Levin and anybody that loves his celebrity news website. First you prematurely pronounce the impending death of Lil Wayne (Weezy Forgives. We Don't.) and then you try to link the horrific actions of one of the Boston Marathon culprits to our culture? "DEAD BOMBING SUSPECT: HEAVY INTO HIP HOP" You don't say? It's 2013 and most kids are into rap music. We've been penetrated pop culture, you cock suckers. "What's interesting... hip-hop lyrics are notoriously violent and often degrading to women." So our music is at fault in this tragedy? Let's be clear the only bombs my culture cosigns is DJ Funkmaster Flex's sound effects. Thirty Mile Zone is prone to post anything to get traffic. Fuck dude and his coffee cup. Get you a Rap Radar cup and drink with us in the winner's circle.
Oh Miguel. Leg droppin your fans? You ain't Hulk Hogan and that wasn't part of the program. That's no way to treat the adoring ladies, brother.
YN i agree with you for the most part; LL Cool J is a legend and shouldnt be trying to rap like today’s music, like rapping about “molly” and “ratchet”–nigga should stick to acting money anyways. Eve is pretty much a legend too– i dont know why shes dropping shitty music like that either. And Fat Joe can still make some hits, but that song “Instagram That Hoe” was awful. Props
No. Just the old schoolers that dont gerase your pockets eith enough money for you to promote them every month. This game is pay to play and we know it and we aint taking it anymore. Out
grease your pockets
real talk
YN runnin with or feed back and taking all the credit you need to shout our us your bloggers and give us credit instead of taking our shit n run with it like u though about it yourself TRUTH
“Pride n Joy” was uplifting to women? “And even if she all about the money , I dont really care”??? Instagram that Hoe bumps in Perfections and in this “ratchet’ society we live in, it fits. People forget that urban radio is currently filled with “ratchet” songs. Bands a make her dance (Juicy J is at least 40), 2chainz whole existence ( he pushing 40 too) Pop that??? Yn i think YOU are trying to hard and should let someone without gray hair make the age appropriate comments.
point well taken,,,but as long as long they have fun in what they do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there is no need to fit in,
LL has always been rapping about chicks in some form or fashion,,,unfortunately ignorant songs are the norm in this day and age,,,,fat joe should know better,,,but he is influenced by his surroundings,,
dem niggas over there>>>>>,,,lolol,,
personally i thought eve was a rap no pun intended,,,,,,they could have given us something to believe in however,,,there struggle isn’t the same anymore,,,,,and the urgency to redirect the wack ass energy in hip-hop now is not there,,,in order for a significant change,,it has to start on the executive level
It baffles me how much ya’ll attack this dude as if he owes ya’ll something. Wow. Are you all even males? WTF.
In any event…on topic. I agree that older artists are reaching wayyyy too much.
ratchet wasn’t that bad,,,,it LL this is what he does,,,,from” doo wop” to “im that type of guy” “big ole butt
L always raps about chicks so what else is new
I think if anything they aren’t trying hard enough…depending on popular topics of the day instead of innovating…all the singles mentioned were more examples of rappers taking the safe route of what is already commercially established instead of trying to open up new lanes.
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Instagram that Hoe wasn’t even bad honestly it’s a nice club banger. #DonHate
add T.I. x Lil Wayne âBallâ to the list
Juicy J ain’t trying hard though … He makes hits
ratchet has a nice vibe ,i like that song minus content …maybe if he rewrites it ,the song could become a good song
As much as I feel YN is a tool, this is one video where he made sense without having to dick ride other artists.
It’s about more than the song. It’s the message and the gimmick of it. LL ain’t drop in a minute and its like he heard his kids or grandkids say it while watch love n hiphop and was like oh that’s what they sayin ima use that.
And fat joe shit just the title is mad desperate like if I use their slang maybe they’ll buy my cd, oops I mean maybe they’ll download me iTunes. That’s how stupid rap fans are 2day he thought he could just throw Instagram in there and the radio spins would be non stop. I don’t blame him actually Niggas ain’t lookin to pay for real rap but they might pay for this gimmicky shit
Juicy J is about the strip club and drug life though..that’s been him for his whole career. Fat Joe joint seems forced and was sounded like a cheap imatation of Pop That. LL needs to hang it up if these are the songs he’s gonna make.
Yeah those songs are bad
If you have to “try” it will always come off forced. Anyone can be a rapper but “MC” status should be reserved for those who flows is effortless. There are plenty of MC’s who are still doin their thing. I’d like to see time given to those who stay true. The money might not be there, but the Respect. is. Show me three who still flow for those dro’ed out.
will these veterans ever learn from Jay Z? he gave y’all niggas the “stay relevant” blueprint. use it.
TI Ball was AWFULLLLLL. we need more “Go Get It”
Agree. This is a perfect time for past MC’s to come back with the real. And they blew it.
Come again!
With the current (shit) state of hip-hop these tracks fit right in. The problem is, you don’t expect this garbage from certain artists who are trying to get with whats ‘poppin’. Problems with trends are they finish as fast as they come in and people like LL are left looking like fools at the end of it. Do YOU instead of fucking up your credibility any more than you already have.
Couldn’t agree anymore, however did Mr. YN talk to these artist before putting this out? Reason being is that some of these people are sensitive, & I remember vividly how Ice T threaten Bernard when commenting on his music. Now the question remains, would R/R really give some shine (pause) to any vet that put out real Hip-Hop, like Bumpy Knuckles?
THIS NIGGA’s A FUCKING CORNBALL!!!
Y’all gon’ dis the vets regardless, cause if they ‘kept it real’, then there would b all this talk about them not selling cause ‘noone wants to hear it’ or NY is stuck in the 90s or some’n like that. Damned if u do damned if not. Just buy the stuff u like & k.I.m.
Real talk but LL’s record was clearly the worst one and out of character for him. ‘Instagram That Hoe’ has a ring to it ;)
Nathaniel says:
‘will these veterans ever learn from Jay Z? he gave yâall niggas the âstay relevantâ blueprint. use it.’
^true
Snoop has as well but obviously in a totally different way. He has done a TON of commercials
@Ill Street
I don’t think that’s completely true. There’s a difference between progressing as an artist and switching your style up completely to appeal to the Billboard Hot 100 crowd (Bieber etc).
See you can’t be on top forever. A Hip-Hop career is like a sport career. You’re gonna get around a decade and its time to move away from center stage. Problem with a few of these vets is they’re still trying to cling to some semblance of relevancy in the game. It’s then when they make stupid decisions. Some of these rappers need to be grateful for the 30-40K they manage sell the first week.
My next youtube video: Are Vet Rap Bloggers Trying Too Hard?
the truth is right here do ya’ll remember this video http://tinyurl.com/29xv5uw
Busta Ryhmes is a prime example…
What I want from the vets is the music/energy that made them famous in the first place. Also, I love to see growth & mature. There are “older heads” such as myself that still buy rap. The vets do not have to try to music as if they are in their teens or early twenties.
This is no different than the BS Kanye is putting out, Juicy J and some other old rappers, but I can’t argue with anyone’s opinion…it just makes me appreciate NAS’s Life is Good and this man’s entire catalog… only artist, other than cast or Scarface that continues to grow and give you him/Them. Life is Good is Album of the year and Nas is the greatest EMCEE ever with the best album (hip hop) and best catalog to go with it… and please no more references to the IRS and Jay-z. Many great singers/artist have gotten into debt with the IRS…Marvin Gaye on down…it has nothing to do with picking up a MIC, pen and telling the world your truths…Music is to inspire…LIFE is Good. Go Nas!!!
@ Devante Busta reminds me of Puffy he jump on any bandwagon that is hot.
there’s just an abundance of shitty music from everyone, young & old.
first off if 2 chains or any other current rapper made either of these 2 songs they would be instant hits any time one of these artist makes a song its that nigga old he aint even relevent nigga aint nobody rapping.like that anymore so they come out with the new.skang the new beat and you still shit on em yall.niggas wack remind of some double standard bitches
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Hip Hop Journalism icon Elliot Wilson breaks it all the way down.
@Attaboy take the nas’ dick out of your mouth
YN, i actually agreed with you for once and like you a percent more after watching this clip. Do more editorials, its why i fcks with DX tough.
Nas
I agree. great points. Keep these videos coming
It’s not really the content, it’s the approach. All these records he talking about are TRYING to have a particular trendy sound.
But it’s a double edge sword, because LL & Fat Joe survived this long by following trendy blueprints to a certain extent.
‘Make it Rain’ is about as far from ‘Flow Joe’ as you can get, but it kept him afloat, Luv u better sounded like Neptunes shit of that time period, but it brought L back once again. They just missed the mark this time…
Vet emcees are trying to hard because when they relsase honest music people dontbuy,it,and critique it. I remember when Sean Price released Monkey bars, the Source said it sounded outdated.The industry makes vet emcees seem washed up because they dont encourage true and honest music. Maybe things would be different if there wasnt some invisible make believe blueprint to sell records.
Ny is trying to hard period..
@Attaboy, kanyes WORST project was the Cruel Summer compilation yet he still dropped good quality catchy singles NAS dropped a classic album to , but lately hes been co-signing all those artists you talk down about, so doesn’t that make him a bit of a dick rider? theres always flaws in everyone , but thats not the point YN was making, he’s saying if your a VET (older) rapper and try and drop something to fit in with the new demographic atleast make it sound good and be a HIT single instead of sound like a old fart trying to hard -being corny (ex: Ratchet, Instagram that hoe)
Its not what we want from them, and its not what they usually do–but that’s what they see selling. And that’s what MFers want.
Are old journalists trying too hard? YN apply this to your life.
DMX has come back and tried too hard. He wants to be relevant again and his latest album just screamed rushed. There are some classic lines and one or 2 great songs on there but there is just too much shit on there for it to be considered a decent album.
I would rather he just took his time and actually got some good production on there and put a nice album out instead of this rushed junk with 1 or 2 good songs max.
Nas is an exception to the rule, his last album was the best album I have heard in YEARS.
It ain’t just rapper’s it’s everyone including 41 year old bloggers