Moment Of Clarity: B.Dot vs. Hot 97 II

Rosenberg:1. First off let’s be clear, this conversation was started by and has been fueled by bloggers who more than anything want to be on this radio station, alright? And that’s fine, so did I. 2. But I worked my way through the minor leagues for years to get to have this “dreaded Sunday night timeslot”, as it was referred to by my man B.Dot 3. And real quick, a lot of these bloggers talking trash about commercials we play and there’s no politics, I go to RapRadar.com, I see the MMG ads. I see the Def Jam ads and I see you blogging about MMG and Def Jam, so let’s not get too high on your high horse about commercials and things of that nature.

W’ssup niggas? Time to separate fact from fiction.

1. I’ve never submitted an air check nor asked for a time slot on Hot 97. So that’s bologna. Anytime I’ve cracked the mic, programmers or hosts have asked me to.

2. We’ve all worked our way through the proverbial “minor league”. Eight years ago, I started out at as an unpaid intern at Don Diva. Tiff and Kev what up! You and I both know, Real Late is on a dreaded time slot. Sundays suck. To be technical, the show is actually on Monday morning. By 12 A.M. most folks are sleeping or preparing for work. So really, who are you really playing music for?

3. During this entire exchange, I never mentioned commercials. Yes, they’re ads plastered on this website from record labels, but what’s your point? Those same record labels submit music and are also critiqued: good or bad. The difference is that record labels pay radio stations to play the music. Since payola is an illegal practice, programmers have found alternate ways to justify airplay.

But we’re getting off topic. The problem with urban radio (specifically in New York) is that most of the Radio DJs aren’t doing their jobs and programmers are allowing it. Say what you want about how important blogs are, but at the end of the day, the DJ is the sole controller and A&R of the streets. When you’re two stepping in the nightclub or riding around and getting it, your favorite website isn’t at the helm—it’s the DJ. And in New York, the Radio DJs control the nightclubs.

If you’re visiting this website, chances are you’re a hip-hop nerd. Myself included. The casual hip-hop/rap fan is exposed to new music via terrestrial radio. They’re not scouring the ‘net for the latest underground sensation. DJs need to close their wallets, roll up their sleeves, and consistently play good music for their audience.

MTV’s Rob Markman said it best, “There just needs to be more balance on both sides. Underground heads need to stop making records like it’s 1994 and radio has got to show more underground love.”

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  • http://twitter.com/talleyismajor Regular Guy

    This has nothing to do with hip hop in general. I come to this site to see the latest music, interviews and show footage. Not lil beefs between radio personalities and fuckin’ bloggers. You guys clearly aren’t the best rap blog anymore factually, it’s nicole bitchie. You guys are more broad and can reach a far better demographic than her brand. Start fucking acting like it, cause seriously you guys are losing fans. And I put the link to my twitter so you niggas know it’s real. ha.

  • Cinsere

    I’m reading this RIGHT after I just finished watching your boss cosign that Trinidad James trash. #YouLose

  • Kemosabi

    B.Dot brought the Napalm

  • http://georgehenrycasselton.wordpress.com mrgeorgehenry

    literally in tears with the ether instrumental looooooool

  • Your Life Is A Lie

    You Tube, not rap blogs or corporate commercial radio is the driven force for new music being broke so both of ya’ll need to exhale.

  • Winston Churchill

    Toys out the pram.

  • Pretty Fred

    With the amount of trash yall put out, yall both guilty.

    EBro, sit down bro. Why are you on the morning show, and where did you come from? Your a wannabe star, but you work a 9-5 at a radio station, relax bro, enjoy your job, your no Jay-Z, or even Flex for that matter. No one wants to hear your corny ass voice or opinion on ANYTHING. Go back behind the scenes handling the phones and paper work cornball.

  • IamRealTalk *MKW* – Five-☆-General of MKW – “Get on ma instragram You’ll See me Getting a Message on 1 of those instagrams…I was in the Palms…. out in Vegas…. i made da best of da night”

    IM SIDING WITH ROSENBERG

    ONE OF THE FEW NIGGAS WHO SUPPORT UNDERGROUND…N HE AINT EVEN A NIGGA

    “Da Rapper Suppose to be in tha Water Flappin they Arms ”

    MKW

  • https://twitter.com/P0is0nedKoolA @p0is0nedkoola

    1. B.Dot is right in terms of that whole “I have 2 hours on a sunday/monday late show so I’m so hip hop” lame excuse of Rosenberg being a total cop-out. The time to showcase music is when the spotlight is shining the brightest! WHY DOESN’T ROSENBERG PLAY “ACTION BRONSON” AND “JOEY BADASS” ON HIS MORNING SHOW? EXACTLY!

    2. The audience must take more blame than the DJ. We , as an audience, must not rely on just some radio morning DJ to tell us what’s hot. I find all types of hot tunes via last fm, spotify, blogs, forums, uploaded playlists etc. Do the work, it’s there!

    3. I’m not a B.Dot stan by any means, but Rosenberg’s assertion that “bloggers” want to be on the radio like him was just pure BIASED speculation. Rosenberg is trying to sell the idea of jealousy breeding this debate and that’s a joke This debate is NOT about you Rosenberg! It’s about the responsibility of the DJ to break records/artists. Spare us this idea that what B.Dot wants is to be Rosenberg. What he ,B.Dot, wants is what we all want, the integrity of the audience being maintained via diversity in the playlist.

    4. I personally can’t stand Rob Markman or his twitter feed. The quote is silly as well. This isn’t about “making records like it’s 1994″ (how old was he then anyway, 5?), but about the lack of support the radio have now as compared to 1994! You could hear Pac along with TLC next to Wu then on to Da Bush Babees (remember we?). This would be during PRIME TIME hours too! You don’t hear that now. It’s Good music, MMG , then YMCMB , rinse and repeat.

    Thanks B.Dot for showing that your about the passion of music before the politics cause clearly you know that taking this stance is not going to keep you on the HOT 97 guest list. But fuck it, who cares

    Good post, again!

    on Twitter @p0is0nedkoola
    the Lester Bangs of hip hop
    no 2 line opinions allowed

  • Mel

    @Cinsere Word!

  • Belize

    Those same record labels submit music and are also critiqued: good or bad. The difference is that record labels pay radio stations to play the music. Since payola is an illegal practice, programmers have found alternate ways to justify airplay.

    But we’re getting off topic.

    ————-
    ^

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

    Fucking hypocrite. Don’t change the subject, cuz if ya’ll:

    1. Stopped sucking MMG & def jam dick, you’d realize that they are killing hip hop…..Ross for opening the door that ya’ll made fun of Vanilla ICe, Ja Rule & countless “unreal” artist & esp. Def Jam that has fucked some of the greatest artist outta the game (c) Ghostface always pushed for 4th qtr with no promo

    2. If yall didn’t promo that wack shyt maybe the labels would wise up and start signing & pushing some of the great artist yall do showcase on here.

    3. This is just like XXL when YN had it. He started to pick sides and promo niggas like a whore and when they fell off so did the mag b/c ya’ll became too biased. Dont do this to this site as well – esp since yall took a long while to gain credibility & viewers.

  • Truth Serum

    Rosenberg makes strives and attempts to play some of these new guys even if it IS late at night, but all I see on this site is that mainstream bullshit. Yes, every now and then you can expect to find some more “newer” guys, but from what I’ve noticed, it’s only ONCE they get a certain cosign,etc, never because the music is actually quality/good/etc. I have never seen RR be the leader in breaking a new artist or being that site that can say “yeah, we were there since day one”.

    B.Dot, I have a challenge for you, if you’re really about pushing this culture then why don’t you take a stand and push newer artists on this site every now and then? It can even be once a month, as long as you actually try to help this culture grow.

    I know you won’t accept this challenge for whatever reason, but think about it. In the meantime, I’m going to go to a site that doesn’t have bullshit music on their site.

  • Your mother’s “friend”

    The truth is most of the current rap music underground or not is trash, yo B.Dot what exactly do you want them to play ?? what artists ?? lets face facts here there is no new good music coming out of NY it pains my heart to say it but it’s true, the music sucks period

  • Carlito R

    Yo B Dot isn’t it funny how Paul & Ebro wont deny the “payola” topic you keep bringing up. To be real honest I don’t even think “play for pay” is that bad. I know two “underground” artists (that are pretty known but I don’t what to name names) that will be more than willing to pay. The problem is they don’t want to get jerk and not get what they paid for.

    Anyway I agree with B Dot as far as balance goes and whatever happen to deejays just breaking records??? That use to be their bragging rights or their claim to fame. To be the First to play an Unsigned Artist that was bubbling. It seems like only Down South Radio still does it.

  • dave

    ive stopped to listening to hot97 morning show because of that loser “boss” ebro.i just checked in this morning because i figure theyd have a response.ebro so bad wants to be known. nigga just sit back run the show ,ger your bread and stfu.power 105 is way more entertaining for the morning at least.i mean i agree with Rosenberg on the part bout the club.we deff aint tryna hear no conscious shit up in there but theres alot of rappers on the low who make songs good for the radio that dont have to be rappity rap.these guys just tryna cover they ass so they dont wanna seem like they supporting them.and that sunday slot is horrible.this dude Rosenberg would bleep out shit dealing with drunk driving but wont bleep curses i know he lose a family memebee to that but hes a backward ass dj.

  • Carlito R

    So B Dot asked Ebro if he felt ASAP Rocky didn’t pay dues either??? He was a LOCAL NEW YORK Artist. But he didn’t get any love from 97 until he got signed.

  • B.Dot

    B.Dot, I have a challenge for you, if you’re really about pushing this culture then why don’t you take a stand and push newer artists on this site every now and then? It can even be once a month, as long as you actually try to help this culture grow.
    ^
    If you ever get a chance, ask Meek Mill, Kendrick, Ab-Soul, Macklemore, Mac Miler who was there early. Ask Sav up at Def Jam which site made theme realize they had an artist like Frank Ocean. I’ll wait.

  • Hip Hop Entertainment, HHE

    @regualr guy What the hell are you talking about? Debatingl has always been a part of music in general. Blogs are up for all around information that is going on in whatever area the blog is created for. If something isn’t of interest don’t click on it. Simple as that.

    What could possibly be worse than the radio time slot of Monday morning from 12 AM to 2 AM seriously? Some revolutionary of Hip Hop Rosenberg is, he gets to take a stand for Hip Hop at the hours most people are sleeping getting ready for the long work week ahead. I’m sure he’ll reach a lot of people with that time slot. These guys at Hot 97 are absurd with their proclamations. Now bloggers and websites are minor league. Seems like the whole world is minor league except Hot 97 and whoever they want to put on their station. Then is guy is talking about getting off his high horse. If you’re gonna claim you’re “Waging the War of Real Hip Hop” for five years then take a real stand for it. You are in the majors and making no difference with your 2 hour time slot the 2 worse possible hours in a 168 hour week. Rosenberg has worked hard to get where he is and now that he is there he doesn’t want to do anything to jeopardize it. The man could hardly stand up to Ebro at the end of interview and then made a joke out of it. I guess the powers that be checked him after the whole Nicki Minaj incident.

    Hot 97 airplay is the equivalent to spam on the internet when you clicked the wrong link and got a bad virus on your computer. The same songs keep coming and coming at you. Rap Radar is far from that. At least here you have a choice of what you want to look at and be part of a conversation of. Hot 97 been brainwashing this new generation for years, making them dumber and more ignorant than ever so that a bunch of rich people could make tons of money and continue to do so. Rosenberg is part of the problem of keeping Hip Hop ignorant, and he uses his 2 hours as stand for what’s keeping Hot 97 grounded.

    Biggie and Pac moved people and changed culture, and they died in vain because look at the state of Hip Hop now. Hip Hop Entertainment, or HHE is more like WWE than ever. Where the hell is the balance in NY Radio Hot 97? Seems like the money made the movement go backwards to me.

  • http://whysobitter.com HipHopLives

    @B.Dot I love this back and forth shit.. rooting for B.Dot on this one.. we all know that payalo shit is everywhere..and it might not ever change..

  • http://cocoabea.wordpress.com cocoabea

    B.Dot is completely right. Radio is not doing what is used to do and they try to find every way possible to justify this and they can’t – and it’s sad. What role does radio play now anyway at this point in our culture? Because we all know we don’t NEED radio, and hell, I don’t even need to listen to it for interviews, because I know it’s going to be on youtube within minutes. It’s not about the listeners anymore. It about radio itself and these record labels to get their artists more spins to gain more notoriety in the mainstream media, I suppose. I say no to mainstream radio, and I stick to Sirus radio because they always play music I’ve never been introduced to before.

  • http://whysobitter.com HipHopLives

    We have to admit though…the internet sites do the same thing…..

  • ***CROMER BEATS***

    @Truth Serum

    Could you believe months ago I wrote a direct personal email to RR (All contacts) to do or at least consider exactly that. Create a small digital space for new/hungry artists and producers. What was their response….NOTHING. They aren’t even open to discuss the PEOPLES concerns to begin with. Yet they run a platform BASED SOLEY ON DISCUSSION. This suggestion isn’t just based on what i wan’t…I actually do web design and understand marketing do a degree on this aspect. This would help their site in the end. You can’t buy/sponsor credibility and customer loyalty.

    I wish one day companies in general would actually heed the voice of the ppl they supposedly serve. Instead we are treated like monetary assets.

    – Cromer beats —-> http://www.youtube.com/user/cromerbeats

  • Sam

    Truth Serum’s first paragraph said it best. As a ‘hip hop nerd’ I come here to catch up on what’s happening in the mainstream hip hop spectrum. If I want to discover new music/artists I head to 2dopeboyz who constantly are behind all current artists from day 1 (Action Bronson, Jon Connor, Kendrick, all TDE etc..).

    Since I’ve been reading this site over the past two years I notice time and time again that you’ll only jump on an up and comers bandwagon once they’ve been “established” enough or co-signed by a major artist. For example you only started mentioning Emilio Rojas when their was a rumour regarding him linking up with MMG.

    I don’t know if this’ll be read by those who run this site but RR has taken a serious nosedive over the past year or so, I really don’t enjoy it anymore. I (and I’m sure many of the other regular viewers) couldn’t care less what Elliot Wilson’s thoughts on a certain artist or movement is. This shouldn’t be an opinion site, we’re here to hear new music and see some videos.
    Furthermore, you can’t deny the partisanship between this site and MMG and Def Jam because it’s prevalent on half of the posts of the day.

  • Mike

    @B.Dot, Well Done, Sir. Ether makes the soul burn slow

  • Devante

    Lets be real B.Dot majority of the post on here are Def Jam/MMG post. I remember couple months back you posted some Def Jam artist no one even heard of and the song wasnt even good… If labels are paying radio station I’m sure they tap into big HipHop blogs already

  • mm

    i fuck with the all out show therefore i fuck with bdot

  • CHIPS

    B.Dot’s a whack ass fool.

  • it’s the roc

    I don’t think people understand the advertising on radio vs RR. RR allows artists and labels to pay for ad space (if so icy boi wanted to promote his debut mixtape and he had the bread, it might be him all over the screen instead of big boi), whereas radio needs big corporate sponsors to be profitable, so they play only the most popular music from the most popular artists to ensure that. the payola comes in when djs and pds want that side money. so to keep bringing up RRs def jam and mmg ads is not apples to apples, its just deflecting from the main argument.

  • Chris

    “If you ever get a chance, ask Meek Mill, Kendrick, Ab-Soul, Macklemore, Mac Miler who was there early.”

    In almost every case, 2DopeBoyz or Nahright. Then when they’re hot on the blogs and message boards (OKP whaddup!) already, y’all jump on em. A few months later, they’re hot on the mainstream and you guys take credit for getting them there, when that train was already on its way and y’all just jumped on at the last stop.

  • LikeJordan45

    Despite the valid points raised on both sides, ya’ll know no one cares right? This argument in itself is strictly for rap nerds. Stop acting like this is some big war, casual fans outside of NY don’t even have a reason to give a fuck.

  • the watcher pt 3

    ” If you ever get a chance, ask Meek Mill,
    Kendrick, Ab-Soul, Macklemore, Mac Miler
    who was there early. Ask Sav up at Def Jam
    which site made theme realize they had an
    artist like Frank Ocean. I’ll wait.”

    ——————

    be for real b.dot. in the blog game being early is not really bragging rights. first is boss, early is par for the course, and late is deadly. shit moves at the speed of light. was rr the FIRST to post any of these guys? or were u guys just one of the many among the early wave of blogs after a youtube of theirs blew up or some hipster blog shed light and made them “cool”. Were u posting them when they werent generating any traffic? as dart adams said (and no im not dart but i follow his twitter) there is blood on the blogs hands too. what artist can you honestlty say u broke online, thats had no co-sign, no million view youtube vid, and no other blogs were already on his nuts? you helped sav realize what he had in frank ocean? yeah thanks alot im sure the gazillions of publications highlighting nostalgia ultra and fans singing his songs wouldnt have done a thing. it was all rap radar lol.

    im not dissin, u make great points but you aint squeaky clean yourself. its just always vogue to attack big bad radio

  • ***CROMER BEATS***

    @it’s the roc

    I can agree with that and understand that completely. It is necessary for them to accept mainstream advertising. Business is about taking smart risks. And an industry artist is just that vs a nobody. The question is have they done all they can or anything to nurture the lesser artists?

  • Truth Serum

    @bdot

    I’ll let you have kendrick, but at the same time I feel like you guys only posted him because of Jay Rock at the time (same goes for ab). As far as macklemore, I never saw him mentioned until the XXL freshman drop. Mac Miller was a product of Wiz’s success at the time. Do I even need to go into Meek? Everyone knows how supportive you guys are of MMG. The point I’m trying to make is, you don’t pay attention to a new artist until you have no choice but to do so.

    There’s a lot of great new artists out there who earned their spots that deserve to be on this site and I KNOW you know/heard some of these guys, but I know how politics work, thus I know why they’re not on this site. I give you props for pushing NY radio and starting this whole movement, but at the same time, you’re still in the same boat.

    • B.Dot

      @Truth Serum and to ur argument, all i have to say is check the RR archives or other blogs’.

  • Trillionaire

    I keep trying to tell y’all Rosenburg is the HipHop Police….this nigga just get on my nerves with his purist bullshit. B. Dot kept it hunnid though…Hip Hop is big business so everyone has to be paid but the culture of Hip-Hop should be sustained by the people who claim they love HipHop. HipHop radio is failing us because they not standing up for the culture…they should be breaking new artist with new sounds. Not playing the same artist and the same songs until people get tired of it and scream Hip-Hop dead…smh if you ask any DJ from the biggest to the lamest when the last time they broke a record or an artist…all you will hear is crickets…

  • @_iam_sam_

    I understand arguments on both sides. I believe it always works itself out, though. Quality music/artist find a way to make an impact on the industry and find longevity, with or without radio. This isn’t back in the day, if an artist is making good music it’s GOING to be heard and spread, and eventually, radio will take notice. I don’t think it’s the radio’s job to break artists, at least not anymore. Songs like “All Gold Everything”, “Tony Montana”, “Cashing Out” or artists like The Weeknd don’t go straight to the radio, they’re already a fan favorites by the time ithey reach the airwaves.

    Bottom line, if the record/artist resonates with the people, it’ll find it’s way to radio.

  • Hip Hop Entertainment, HHE

    I don’t understand how people are criticizing B. Dot. He’s a journalist and his job is have you guys do exactly what you are doing, debating about the state of Hip Hop right now. I hate MMG but at least I could come here and speak my mind on it. The radio all you can do is listen. If you think there needs to be a website to support new artists then go create one instead of putting a man on blast for doing his job. As far as Rosenberg he is clearly stating that he has been “Waging the war on hip hop for five years.” In the last 5 years it’s just gotten worse with the mainstream hip hop. At least B. Dot has been able to ruffle a few feathers with what’s he is doing. Rosenberg as much as he wants to can’t because he gets direct paychecks from the problem. Rosenberg pretty much gets his 2 hours on Monday at midnight as a reward for his silence. I don’t feel like B Dot is being biased because I’ve seen him diss a lot of the shit you guys so called claim Rap Radar is dickriding. I don’t know how you can diss something and dickride at the same damn time.

    Maybe I need to subscribe to satellite radio because I can’t listen to New York radio anymore. At least on the internet you people have choices. When I’m stuck in my car in traffic and don’t feel like plugging in my iPhone, there is nothing to listen to on the radio unless I wanna listen to a bunch of phony ass artists lying about what they do to a fucking Lex Luger beat.

  • Nathanial Hörnblowér

    B.Dot quickly earning true gatekeeper status.

    However here in Boston Sunday nights WJMN show with Hustle Simmons is the only time to tune in but it’s 10-12pm not Monday morning. Shout out to WERS for four hours every week night of commercial free true hip-hop.

    You two seem to have a similar goal, (break new artists worth breaking) Let’s not get all ether/takeover keep on WordPress. Ha! Don’t let ya egos get in the way of what we all need;

    LESS CRAP, MORE RAP

  • the watcher pt 3

    i also want to add djbooth.net, which i think is the best blog out there which ive heard no one mention yet. bedroom rapper has the same opportunity to get posted as some ym or mmg rapper, and the site gets plenty traffic. i wouldnt call 2dbz “early” i see shake on his twitter having a smart ass remark about anybody that asks about their music, even if its in a respectful way. “i listen when i feel like it”. in other words, “i post shit from known rappers no matter how good or bad and it may be and post an absolutely new artist when i get around to it” aka every february 29. power corrupts so the best of 2dbz is behind them plus he manages artist now too so that should be funny.

    i got no dog in the fight but djbooth.net is by far the best out there. check it out if u dont know. no politics.

  • tre

    B.Dot, I have a challenge for you, if you’re really about pushing this culture then why don’t you take a stand and push newer artists on this site every now and then? It can even be once a month, as long as you actually try to help this culture grow.

    ^
    If you ever get a chance, ask Meek Mill, Kendrick, Ab-Soul, Macklemore, Mac Miler who was there early. Ask Sav up at Def Jam which site made theme realize they had an artist like Frank Ocean. I’ll wait.

    ^
    Surely you don’t really believe that actually answers the question…

    You’re first post on Kendrick (an actual post on Kendrick, not mentioning his name in passing), was him talking about the Dr.Dre co-sign in Nov 2010. Other sites been covering his music since Nov 2009 and earlier. Similar with Ab-Soul…you’re first post was July 2011 and other sites been covering him as part of Black Hippy since 2009.

    In Meek’s case, I think I only remember starting to see him on here after I’m A Boss got huge (could be wrong). I’ll give you credit for being early on Mac Miller and Mackelmore though.

    The reason def jam is up on this site is because this is like pretty much the mainstream radio equivalent of blogging site. Basically artists have bubbled up to the level of being worthy of a dedicated rap radar post. And in most cases, semi-popular artists or record label email requests are able to skip ahead in line.

    You’ve got a great site but you’re kidding yourselves if you think you’re highlight new artists for people to discover. I come to rap radar because it’s a great site covering hip-hop culture. But other major hip-hop sites are simply better for posting new artists and music.

  • tre

    (excuse my poor grammar)

  • PEEP

    Streaming online radios are making more money than terrestrial radio stations so of course the bull shit is going to be played now more than ever. What NY needs are new, better radio stations.

  • Biggar

    First of all DJ’s are a dying breed. Half of these guys just use their computers and create a playlist. They don’t mix or have any dj skills. They’re not dj’s.
    I basically see hot 97 as a top 40 hiphop radio station. I’ve never went to the main radio stations for real shit. I would frequent college radio and hit the record store.
    Truth is if you’re an emcee and you’re good, someone will bring your shit to the forefront.
    I know by following bdot and rosenberg that they both post and bring things up for controversial value. You guys are the same!

  • Ramel

    Have always said there needs to be balance. In terms of Hot97 vs. RapRadar, it’s a pretty even battle….both entities represent the machine and not the culture. I could say going up and down the Posts of RapRadar could easily be justify this site being called PopRadar. While Hot97 hasn’t been interested in the cause of Hip Hop culture since the mid-late 90’s. Bigger picture…When are we going to OWN our Culture again! WAKE UP Hip Hoppers!!

  • Truth Serum

    @B.Dot

    I did run through your archives and I matched up every post with something big that happened at the time around that artist’s career. Answer me this question though, why don’t you guys post newer artists a little more? I’m talking about the ones that are incredible, but not there yet in terms of status and presence. If you want some of these guys to be played on NY radio, why don’t you help push them more and actually GET them to the point where they can be considered for radio play?

  • Your Life Is A Lie

    Both the radio stations and blogs like this are to sell advertising not break new artist, remember that

  • http://whysobitter.com HipHopLives

    @ Truth Serum…well said sir…

  • Loyalty

    I just want to hear more of J. cole underground songs on the radio and more artist like Cole, Kendrick Lamar, Nas, and others that have substance but also make good music. I just want them to have more balance, Sometimes I want to hear hip-pop an others times I like to hear music with a message in them

  • http://K1ngEljay.com k1ngeljay

    Hmm… Truth Serum’s making some good points…

    But we’re skipping over all of that, right? Ok.

  • Da Business

    Whoa, shit got real in here…

    @ the end of the day both sides make valid points. The fact of matter is nothing is going to change, so it’s a waste of time to have this debate. It is what it is, hip hop as we once knew it is ova. It’s all about the almighty dollar now.

    As heads all we can do is support the artist that we fux w/and keep it moving. Some of us can’t even do that tho, smh…

  • http://freshsideny.wordpress.com freshsidenyc

    I don’t blame either, You all are responsible for making these wack ass rappers as big as they are. Look at Trinidad James,Waka,Lil B, Kreay,all you fans are responsible for bringing these corny rappers to the forefront. Blogs and radio capitalize on what you people co-sign. I have a blog called Freshsideny.com, and I post new artist under my F.N.Y approved section every once in a while, and they never get any rotation, people come to my site to see what’s the latest with the biggest artist like Ross, Nicki and etc.

    The real truth is that there’s two different types of hip hop fans,you guys (internet nerds) and the streets, the shit women wanna hear, the shit niggas wanna ride to.It’s 2012,the streets don’t make people like Chief Keef and Gucci Mane famous anymore, they blow up on Youtube and you guys promote them.

  • larry

    yall lost when they brought up the mmg dickriding

  • http://livemusicgeek.wordpress.com livemusicgeek

    Corporate radio, DJs & on-air personalities not connected to the heart of hip-hop ALL contribute to the problem and don’t let video TV programmers off the hook.

  • http://esbu.tumblr.com EVERYBODY SUCKS BUT US

    Neither Hot 97, nor Rap Radar are completely right or wrong in this situation. At the end of the day, the answer to every question is MONEY. Hot 97 gets payed to play the same record 4 times every hour, Rap Radar gets paid to post certain artists. Let’s also be real, Hot 97, or Rap Radar, doesn’t break artists. Both cater to a more mainstream rapper. All the said rappers in the above video (Action Bronson, Joey Bada$$, Sean Price, Etc.) have not had their careers broken or been put on by Rap Radar or Hot 97. Both jump on rappers bandwagon once they have a following, and most of the time (especially Rap Radar), doesn’t even cosign what they are listening to. They just post it to appeal to a wider audience. At the end of the day, Hot 97 is held to a certain standard because it is the prominent station in Hip-hop’s birthplace, but in their defense, they are just one of countless terrible radio stations in the USA. The problem is widespread, not just in New York. If you get real local love in your city, thats better then any national airplay during the 5 o’clock traffic jam. It’s all politics as usual. You can’t compare music to the major and minor leagues. Granted you don’t get called up with out putting in your dues, but if you claim there is no talent in the ‘minors’ is preposterous. This is the only genre of music where you have to struggle to be respected. If a song is good, it’s good, and good music should be supported regardless of the rapper spitting the lyrics (except if it’s Mac Miller, he’s terrible). So to wrap it up, Rap Radar needs to put in more work shedding light to artists with talent that are not getting the respect they deserve from their local outlets, and Hot 97 needs to play music with quality regardless of the artist preforming the song, regardless of how much they are getting paid to play ‘Pop That’.

  • http://ASTRONAUTSREALLYFLY.TUMBLR.COM Sal Dinero

    Both you need to break new artists and stop tickling butthole

  • JD

    This is pretty on point. But RR hasn’t critiqued mmg or anything to do with Shady Records at all. Where on the flip y’all barely bigged up NaS when he dropped.

  • epinz

    yall are one in the same to an extent. rapradar is a mainstream website equivalent to hot 97 on the radio. b dot and pete rosenburg are 2 in the same. both work for mainstream employers with underground love and a passion to bring that to the masses through their respective talents….true hiphop heads.. but its the money and the labels spending it that makes radio and these websites what they are. yall are fighting each other instead of coming together. b dot and pete rosenberg should come together and do a morning show or blog, internet radio…something to give and bring the internets and radio heads a common ground to find up and coming artists. that would also, in time, make the new artist come to them for promo cuz that would be where u needed to go to break…just a thought

  • http://djsnsnmusic.com dj sns

    THIS IS WHAT DJ MIXTAPES WAS FOR!!!! TO BREAK NEW ARTIST I ADMITT SOME OF THESE DJS MIXTAPES R TERRIBLE CAUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE MUSIC WORK FOR THEM THEY JUST PUT MUSIC ON THEM THROW ARTIST ON THE COVER AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC JUST LOOK FOR THEIR FAVORITE SONGS!! WHY IS THAT ?? CAUSE THE PPL DONT HAVE FAITH IN DJS ANYMORE!! WHAT MADE ME BECOME A MIXTAPE LEGEND I GAVE THE UNDERDOG THE SHOT WITHOUT PAYMENT!! I KNOW HOW IT IS TO STRUGGLE TO GET MUSIC HEARD TRUST ME SO I LISTEN TO EVERYTHING AND I TRY TO HELP THE BEST WAY I CAN BUT IM ONLY ONE DJ, I HAVE A LIL POWER AND I CHARGE PPL TO DJ THEIR MIXTAPES BUT I DONT RAPE THEIR POCKETS EITHER FEEL ME THATS WHY IM STILL RESPECTED TILL THIS DAY!!!
    ALL I SAY TO ARTIST STAY CURRENT WITH THE TIMES!!! YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE INDUSTRY AT ITS OWN GAME!!!

  • Black Shady

    they got u with that MMG shit tho lol but its all fun….ads is part of the game i get it

    but on the real, im siding with u B.Dot. keep speaking ya mind…Hot 97 is definitely on the payroll…playing all this wack shit all day long. like they pick 15 songs and play it over and over and over again

  • tre

    Interestingly, this discussion reminded me a bit about Dj Enuff asking himself why he wasn’t playing Exhibit C.

  • chillthrills

    to be real,,there are to many rappers,,trying to rap,,,,because they get the false impression ,,that shit is sweet in this rap shit,,,notice i said rap,,,to be a part of the hip-hop culture,,is to represent the culture,,
    heads that rep that culture could care less about,,,,the politricks of the music industry,,and just do them,,,to many non believers in the culture,,because the vultures have left scraps,,and niggas do what ever to be seen and heard,,,just to get played the fuck out ,,by some fuck boy who might have a communications degree,,and a college loan to pay off,,,,the only way hip-hop will survive is to say fuck the radio,,,build a website,,,,and promote yourself,,,,if real recognize real ,,, and a artist is talented with that mojo,,,,then he will blow,,,,,,,other than that,,,,,,FUCK THE RADIO!!!!BASTARDS,,,LOL

  • chillthrills

    and of yeah WBLS is doing their thing,,and their black owned,,,,,turn the dial,,,,,

  • MrBusby

    I think u battling a losing battle B. Dot….YN has said that Rap Radar is “the source for MAINSTREAM hip-hop”….and the OBVIOUS dick riding of certain labels and brands….u really have NO room to talk…AT ALL…

  • http://rapattic.wordpress.com rapattic

    I think Rose. got that one.

  • http://HulkShare.com HulkShare.com

    if you want hot 97 to play local, unsigned or underground then there has to be an significant audience tuned in who will BLOW up the request lines to maintain that slot. the REAL reason why radio programmers are strict with slots are because they risk having you turn the dial to a competitive station before they get to the commercials. were all guilty on dial hopping. I think collectively if the hip hop blogs started an “Occupy Radio” kind of campaign and lobbied for a select few local artists with strong records they could get the desired effect and maybe even have a sponsor pay a slot (which is not illegal if disclosed) but guess what? that would require relinquishing some of that ad space on the blogs to promote such an initiative. but throwing shots at programmers who work for suits upstairs wont effect any change. who cares anyway. youtube is running shit. and they actually pay YOU! (even if its just pennies)

  • SHABOIGAN

    whatever, theres politics and layers to everything haha theres a reason that he WON’T name MMG himself when denouncing Rosenberg’s claims and theres a reason Rosenberg CAN’T play certain records during his MORNING show

  • SHABOIGAN

    Now that I think about it this really has nothing to do with anything unless B.Dot’s about to move on to something else or fuse with radio somehow to really deliver us onto the glory of fair and balanced provision of new/good music. HA people love controversy, they allowed him to engage in this radio/blog war there’s something behind it…I mean Ross canceled the MMG tour maybe they need additional content or traffic since there wont be anymore tour vlogs…or maybe I’M the one REACHING

  • callirmuzik

    I DONT THINK THAT HOT 97 HAS THAT SAME LUSTER LIKE BEFORE. IM FROM N.Y.C AND TO BE HONEST WHEN I COME BACK TO VISIT ( ILIVE IN P.A. NOW) I FEEL LIKE IM IN ATLANTA INSTEAD OF MY HOME TOWN. NOW I DONT HAVE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE PLAYING OF SOUTHERN HIP HOP OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, BUT, THERE ARE ALOT OF LOCAL ARTIST THAT GET SHOWED MAD LOVE IN THE SOUTH ( WHETHER IT IS IN THE CLUB OR ON THE LOCAL RADIO STATIONS). I THINK THE RADIO STATIONS HAVE GOTTEN SO BIG THAT THEY HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH THE STREETS AND THEREFORE DO NOT HAVE THAT SAME CONNECTION WITH WHATS HOT. LOOK AT AN ARTIST LIKE FRENCH MONTANA.. HE WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THAT HE OWES ALOT OF HIS SUCCESS TO THE PEOPLE WHO CONTROL THE MUSIC IN THE SOUTH!!! THIS DUDE HAD TO PRACTICALLY LEAVE THE CITY AND GO TO THE SOUTH IN ORDER TO GET SOME SUPPORT. HOT 97 IS TAKING ORDERS DIRECTLY FROM THE LABELS AND THE DJ’S LIKE FUNKMASTER FLEX AND EVEN MISTER CEE <<<< ( SORRY MISTER CEE BUT ITS TRUE BRO ) DONT EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT YOU IF YOU AINT GOT SERIOUS PAPER. THIS IS WHAT IT HAS COME DOWN TO. ( COMMERCIAL NEW YORK) I THINK WE NEED TO FORGET ABOUT THE RADIO STATIONS AND JUST FACE THE FACT THAT THE INTERNET IS OUR STREETS NOW AND PLACES LIKE RAPRADAR, NAHRIGHT, 2DOPEBOYS,KEVINNOTTINGHAM, UGHH ETC. ARE OUR NEW " HOT 97". EBRO YOUR A BLIND FAKE STREET BUSINESS MAN THAT THINKS HE KNOWS THE "TRUTH" BUT IN ACTUALITY YOUVE BEEN TAINTED BY THE MAN SON!!!! LOL

  • Anth

    Buy Game’s Jesus Piece ALBUM!!!!!! FOK all the other ishhh

  • YaDig

    Why the fuck did you post the Ether instrumental? You didn’t even say shit in all those paragraphs.

  • YaDig

    Wow, deleting comments are ya Bdot?

  • BigeSke

    Game. Set. Match.

  • R

    I dont like rosenberg but this is the second time he said something thats true the other time was about Niki the clown!

  • http://www.smokeetokess.com Smokee Tokess

    I’m a hip hop nerd and proud! You can’t wait for the radio to drop the hottest shit in your lap

  • abrooklyn

    bdot you are a fool for that instruemental lmaooooo

  • http://www.TeeSmif.com Tee Smif

    Regardless of who’s so-called right and wrong, the convo is started and that’s a good thing to me. Now, shift the convo to compromise/solutions and stop the blame and accusations. B.Dot has been challenging the system as of late and i appreciate him for that. Let’s get a dozen more to do the same and a major/actual change event will occur. There’s a very few of us who are in the machine that rage against it also so to both B.Dot and Rosenberg, keep the momentum up and back the shit up you both are stating and we’ll have your back. In essence, you both are saying and yearning for the same things. Word up!

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  • Rease

    But will B. Dot respond to Dart Adams’ blog post?

  • RAPRAYDUR

    “REAL HIPHOP” IS CORNY

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  • DJ Semtex’s Prothsetic

    rosenberg exposing rap radar for the whole mmg thing

  • http://dssence.net D.Scott

    That’s how you set the record straight

  • http://twitter.com/dzbk_ deez

    i dont care bout radio, nor does anyone else, if yall consider that big time…

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  • http://www.facebook.com/therealcino CiNo

    B. Dot, I have grown even more respect for you than I already had before. I love that you really do speak your mind and stand up against what you believe is wrong. However, you guys really don’t give too many chances to newer artists. Just look at Hopsin, I had BIG ARGUMENTS with YN and you via e-mails trying to get Hopsin on Rap Radar WAY BEFORE the “Ill Mind of Hopsin 4″. He was already close to a million views with “Sag My Pants”, but you guys just wouldn’t post his stuff. Then he gets on a song with B.o.B and Tech N9ne, and on the cover of the XXL, THEN you guys post about him, SOMETIMES.

    And for that matter, I also spent time a couple years before that arguing with you guys to put Tech N9ne on the blogs. But you guys ignored everything until Lil Wayne mentioned him in an interview.
    What do you have to say about that?

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