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  • QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD

    JAY Z IS OLD AF!! I LOVE WHAT JAY Z HAS DONE BUT DUDE NEED TO RETIRE!! HE IN THE SAME AGE BRACKET AS THE PRESIDENT BUT HE STILL TRYNA BE HIP!! LOL

  • JustMyOpinion

    “Just another testament to how far Hov has come.”

    ^ Truth

  • onenutned

    this nigga was like 30 when I was 8..that does it I’m convinced Jay-z is the Wolverine of this rap shit.

  • STINKMEANER

    ^^ QUIT – dude, stop acting like hip hop is “only for young people”

    hip hop is music, only ignorant fools think there is an age limit to being able to create music. young people seem to think the world revolves (and the entertainment industry) revolves around them, but the truth is, most young people are just spending their parents money.

    as an adult, i can tell you, i got money and i want to buy and listen to music that appeals to me as an adult man. i don’t want to listen to music made for 15 year old children.

    please get the ageism out of hip hop, if there is a problem with age then why are all the BEST rappers in their 30s or 40s? there is no 20 year old GOAT, there is Jay and Eminem and Andre3k and all them dudes are grown adult men.

  • B.Dot

    ^^
    What @Stinkmeaner said

  • D Twice

    Ha this look like some shit off the Tim and Eric show. If this was hot back in the day then I’m glad I came up a little after that whack shit.

  • onenutned

    ^^^-slo down son I ain’t sayin jay whack or outta his element due to his age I’m saying that nicca old as fuck. However he is musically the best artist we have in hip-hop.

  • bumpy johnson

    really proud of hov no doubt ……..

  • http://feelthelerix.wordpress.com feelthelerix

    Someone sounds bitter. How can you be “trying” to be hip when your on top. “Dont leave while you hot, that’s how mase screwed up”

  • B.Dot

    How can you be

  • it’s the roc

    @STINKMEANER

    PREACH!

  • Curtis75Black

    That’s the track “ORIGINATORS” ripped to an EPMD beat !! Damn Rap Radar, y’all should’ve caught this. Look up the video for the “ORIGINATORS”.

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  • Curtis75Black

  • http://bugginout.wordpress.com Buggin Out!

    THANK YOU STINKMEANER!!! You have just executed all the ignoramuses that can possibly enter this thread.

    Jay-Z isn’t only the best artist we have in hip hop, he is quite possibly the best artist we have in music period.

    While Kanye is screaming into microphones and throwing them on the ground,
    Eminem is going AWOL for years at a time,
    3Stacks has stopped rapping and only comes up for the occasional 16,
    Madonna is showing her 54 year old titties,
    Prince is wearing a seventies afro and musically, cheaply recycling his own sh*t, MJ is buried,
    D’angelo is… well D’angelo,
    Amy is buried,
    Lauryn Hill is… well Lauryn Hill… AND FACING JAIL TIME.
    Janet has never been the same since dating Jermaine Dupri… Harsh but true.
    Mariah has never been the same since marrying Nick Cannon… Harsh but true.
    Beyonce excelled under Jay-Z’s umbrella.
    Rihanna excelled under Jay-Z’s umbrella… ella. ay. ay. ay.

    All this… AND JIGGA IS STILL THAT N*GGA!!!

    Applaud our greats. Don’t try and cut them down. You’re jumping up a tree you cannot possibly reach!

  • https://twitter.com/P0is0nedKoolA @p0is0nedkoola

    What’s interesting about hip hop is it’s now in it’s 4th decade and the true test of “fans” is upon us.

    In classic rock, the legends are still cherished and sell out every tour when they come back out.
    The Rolling Stones are flirty with being 70 and still selling out shows! Actually, the Rolling Stones are older than the judges on the Supreme Court! Yet fans of ALL AGES still support them.

    It is the responsibility of the fans AND the media, including Rap Radar, to acknowledge the heroes/legends of hip hop for not only what they are doing today , but what they have done.
    It may be time for someone to create a “classic hip hop” radio station. Think of all the artists that get overlooked and end up playing the free shows at Central Park’s summerstage while classic rock legends are selling out Stadiums in NYC!!!

    We can not fault the youngins on here posting about Jay Z or Nas or Wu members etc, being “old” as most of hip hop’s focal point is on “what’s hot today” only.

    LL Cool J came out with Chuck D for the Grammys and many people in the media, including this site, mocked them for being “outdated”. Sure, it would have been nice to see LL/Chuck break out some of the “classics”, but nonetheless we need to support our legends.

    It always starts with “you” & if you’re tweeting/blogging/writing in a derogatory tone about some of our legends then you must realize that the stigma you’ve helped create will be attached to ALL ARTISTS who are older including YES, JAY Z , NAS, WU TANG, DRE , SNOOP ETC….

    @p0is0nedkoola on Twitter
    Lester Bangs of hip hop
    Look in the mirror before you use your peripherals

  • it’s the roc

    @Buggin Out

    Ha! Well played, well played

  • it’s the roc

    Damn @p0is0nedkoola

    Great post, hard to argue with that. Them’s the facts

  • Romo

    See people get the perception that rap is for young people because thas how it started… Now that all of those kids from back in the day are older who’s there voice for this culture ….

    • B.Dot

      @romo young “people because thas how it started..”
      ^^^
      I mean, define “young people” Rakim and Kane were 20 years old when they first started.

      Melly Mel was 21 with “the message”. The artist were just more mature then. In my eyes, they were adults

  • it’s the roc

    @B.Dot

    Great point. You would think Pac had already lived two lives with the subjects he would touch on with such mastery. Same with Nas. Heck go listen to Shyheim on AKA The Rugged Child, he sounds 40! This influx of average to bad rappers has made it all about what they’re saying instead of how they’re saying it. Anybody can talk about a particular subject, but a select few can elaborate and pick out certain details and twist the words in a way to make it poetic and bring it to life.

    But let me not sound old on here, turn up!

  • https://twitter.com/P0is0nedKoolA @p0is0nedkoola

    @ Its The ROC
    Thanks for the compliment

    What’s interesting is that the same kids who call Jay/Nas etc “old” don’t even realize that
    2 Chainz
    and
    Rick Ross are in their mid 30’s!!!

    Ah the buffoonery

    @p0is0nedkoola on twitter
    Lester Bangs of hip hop
    sage advice tho “get a hit”

  • DK

    I don’t have a problem with Jay-Z. I really don’t. He is easily one of the most consistent forces hip hop has seen, and his progressivess in both music and business while still representing where he started from is a notable detractor to the “product of your environment” argument many people use for rappers (and people in general) to excuse ignorance and recklessness.

    I do, however, think the Jay-Z dickriding has been in serious overdrive since the first ‘Blueprint’ came out. This man could literally fart into a microphone for two and a half minutes at this point, give the recording a name, and thousands of people would swear by it like it’s the greatest piece of songwriting ever made. The truth of the matter is his musical output since leaving his pseudo-retirement has been lacking at best. More often than not, his subject matter is “I’m banging Beyonce and have more money than you.”

    I’ll argue that this has nothing to do with age. Rap, contrary to popular belief, is NOT basketball. The cause is that Jay isn’t hungry anymore, and really doesn’t have much be needs to prove. So what the hell else is he going to talk about? Poverty and pain foster inspiration. Conflict fosters interesting narrative. I don’t know a man who wouldn’t want to switch places with Jay-Z. “The gift and the curse,” I believe he once called it.

    Oh, and @P0is0nedk00la: there is a classic hip hop station. Backspin on XM 66. Good shit, dude.

  • G

    @QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD, Jay trying to be hip?? everything he says and does all the “young” rappers emmulate so no, he’s not trying to be hip, he IS hip

  • Leanin’

    Funny thing is when these Same guys that Suck Jay Z (After he had Several Chances to make it) r the Same ones trying discourage mf’s that May take/need a few times/chances for them to Grow into them being a Great artist. I saw a dude say this After Jay’s Performance Footage from SoSo Def Reunion: Jay has the Best Stage Presence..dudes could learn from him! Well yeah, if u been On Stage since 88 Consistently U BETTER Have Stage Presence! haha But Yes as we can see..he has come a Looong way!

  • B.Dot

    @DK This man could literally fart into a microphone for two and a half minutes at this point, give the recording a name, and thousands of people would swear by it like it

  • Ivy Blue Hov

    I like this thread, adults airing their opinions, no fuckery!

  • Johnny Ryall

    If Jay wanna drop an album at 80 when I’m 67 about the best retirement homes, canes, shuffle board leagues and the finest early bird special plates I’ll cop cause he rhymes with honesty and intellect. When you’re hip-hop you’re hip-hop for life not just til some snot nose says so.

  • It’s the roc

    Hahaha, B.Dot leave Ye alone. He’s having a tough few days.

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  • QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD

    JAY Z IS NOT FOREVER YOUNG YOUR THE SAME AGE BRACKET AS THE PRESIDENT.

    YALL STAY SUCKING JAY Z OFF!! DUDE AINT SETTING NO TRENDS! KANYE BEEN KEEPING JAY RELEVANT THE PAST FEW YEARS MUSICALLY. KANYE HAS A BIG INFLUENCE ON JAY AND DONT EVEN TRY TO DENY IT!!

    RIHANNA KANYE WEST, BEYONCE BEEN KEEPING JAY HIP!! ALL 3 OF THEM ARTISTS ARE BIGGER AND DONE MORE MUSICALLY THAN JAYZ HAS AND HE OLDER AND BEEN IN THE GAME TWICE AS LONG LOL

    JAY Z IS A GROWN ASS BUSINESS MAN. MUSICALLY HE AINT DONE NOTHING EXCITING SINCE THE BLACK ALBUM AND HIS BIGGEST SONG TO DATE WASREALLY A ALICA KEYS SONG (EMPIRE)

  • R

    So that’s where J Camel stole his style from Jaz-O the truth finally comes out!

  • Chris

    ^
    u must be born in 195

  • Day Truthhhh

    Good looking mad love. Throw ya diamonds up

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  • MR. UNDI$PUTED THE MOGUL

    @QUIT BEFORE YOUR DEAD, IT’S ALWAYS ONE OR 2 HATING ASS LOSERS LIKE YOU WHO HAVE TO BE SCHOOLED. BEYONCE PUT JAY-Z ON HER 1ST BIG SINGLE AS A SOLO ARTIST, YOU THINK HE BEGGED HER TO BE ON IT?! AS FOR RIHANNA & KANYE THEY BOTH LOOK UP TO HIM BOTH AS MENTOR & THE PERSON WHO SIGNED THEM OR EVEN BLEW THEM UP AS A LEGENDARY ARTIST RAPPING OVER KANYE’S BEATS!!!!!! CONSIDERING THE FACT EVERYDAY WE ALL GET OLDER BASED ON YOUR & A FEW OTHER IDIOTS THEORY, ANYTIME JAY SIGNS A NEW ARTIST THAT BLOWS UP & WANTS HIM ON THEIR 1ST SINGLE JAY’LL DO IT JUST TO STAY HOT! NOT BECAUSE HE’S ALREADY ONE OF IF NOT THE GREATES MC OF ALL TIME BUT DEFINITELY THE RICHEST MC IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD WITH GLOBAL RESPECT TO BACK IT UP! HOW MANY PEOPLE LET ALONE A MAN FROM THE PROJECTS IN BROOKLYN GET POWERFUL ENOUGH TO BE ON THE COVER OF THE FORBES 4OO RICHEST PEOPLE WITH THE 2ND RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD WARREN BUFFETT.

    PEACE & GET MONEY!!!
    MOGUL $$$ GAME ’13!!!

  • Day Truthhhh

    http://m.soundcloud.com/anukinvorton/fonzifree-ft-anukin-
    Check me out B Dot ,jay z influenced me to rap

  • Day Truthhhh

    I sent that

  • http://kicksaddict.wordpress.com Kicks Addict

    Gotta respect Hov man. Even if you dont like his music you gotta respect it. Dude came a long way and no this aint no d riding ish. It’s called being real. He put it down for us in Brooklyn! Dope shit. Just wished him and Jazo could fix that relationship.

  • Bigswingr

    Jay Z didn’t even want too sign Kanye. He thought Ye was wack lol

  • MR. UNDI$PUTED THE MOGUL

    @Bigswingr THAT MEANS NOTHING AT ALL! YOU DO REALIZE JAY-Z COULDN’T GET A DEAL AT ALL & LOOK WHERE HE IS NOW!!! WHERE ARE ALL THOSE EXECS WHO COULDN’T FORSEE HIS REAL TALENT! RUSSELL SIMMONS TURNED DOWN MADONNA BEFORE SHE BLEW UP!!!! DOES THAT MEAN HE DOESN’T KNOW REAL TALENT!!!! JAY THOUGHT YE WOULD BE BETTER STICKING WITH PRODUCING, THAT WAS THEN THIS IS NOW!!!!!
    I DIDN’T WANT TO SCHOOL YOU BUT I DID!!!! THAT’S HOW WE LEARN.

    PEACE & GET MONEY!!!
    MOGUL $$$ GAME ’13!!!

  • mike

    Hov is the GOD M.C. however “From Shawn Carter to Jay-z/Damn, you on Jaz Dick” is still a hot ass line

  • Bigswingr

    U can’t school me bcuz I’m damn near Jay Z’s age. There’s nothing u can tell me about rap/Hip hop. Everyone has there own opinion and my is that Jay’s verses doesn’t have the same bite as they use too. Take that “Suit and Tie” verse, in my opinion it was garbage. Talking about his Wife and her Fam has nothing to do with the title of the song. Rappers/Mcs need to go back to delivering verses that match the song title.

  • OmegaSun73

    @StinkMeaner I cant agree with you more,the problem with hip hip today is the subject matter stays the same.All you hear about is I’m fucking your I’m drinking this drink I’m driving this car and I’m wearing these clothes.Same shit all the time.

  • http://jdareal.com sway-z

    The thing about age and hip hop is, no artists really wants to retire or fall back. KRS, Rakim, Slick Rick, Kane, all them niggas would LOVE to be as relevant TODAY as they were before. The only reason they aren’t is because the dudes in the 90’s were coming with CLASSICS, and creating new styles with damn near every release. The late 80’s niggas SOUNDED old & outdated and the culture moved on.

    You can’t tell me that many niggas came in the 00’s that sounded better or changed the style of music more than Jay, Nas, Em, 3 Stacks or any of those type dudes. So, until that happens, there’s no reason for them to go anywhere, they sound better than almost all the new cats so they’re still necessary, simple as that.

  • slick

    hov just killed the theory of cam starting the pink shit

  • king

    quit while your ahead.>>>>>>>>>you should quit and put some positivity in your life. i never see white folks tearing down white folks thats why some of these white musicians can never go broke cause white people support black people hate to see other blacks get money.

  • QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD

    I AM NOT HATING ON JAY Z!!! I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!! I SALUTE JAY Z FOR ALL THAT HE HAS DONE BUT MUSICALLY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! HE BEEN WINNING FOR SO LONG HE SHOULD JUST STEP DOWN BECAUSE ITS NOT COOL FOR A MIDDLE AGED MAN TO TALK ABOUT WATCHES AND POPPING CHAMPAGNE!!!

    JAY HAD THE BIG DOGS BEHIND HIM HIS WHOLE CAREERS!! IM TALKING ABOUT THE LYOR COHENS, KEVIN LILES, ELLIOT WILSON… THESE PEOPLE HAVE HELPED JAY BECOME THE RAPPER HE IS PERCIEVED AS TODAY!!

    PERCEPTION IS A POWERFULL THING!! JAY Z IS PERCEIVED AS A GREAT BUT IF U LOOK AT HIS MUSIC SINCE THE BLACK ALBUM IT HAS NOT BEEN SO GREAT!!! HE BEEN RIDING THE KANYE WAVE

    DUDE JUST BECAME A FATHER HE SHOULD FOCUS ON HIS KID AND HIS BUSINESESS!! LEAVE THE MUSIC ALONE!!

    THERES A LONG LIST OF RAPPERS THATA ARE BETTER THAN JAY Z BUT JAY Z STAY WINNING THATS WHY HIS PERC

    JAY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST WE ALL KNOW THIS!!! BUT HE NEED TO QUIT WHILE HE AHEAD HE JUST LOOKS OLD AND CORNY NOW!!! WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE LOVE FOR JAY!!!

  • QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD

    THE TRUTH IS JAY Z DONT WANT NOBODY TO SURPASS HIS HIM!!!

  • Tbones

    I rule you, before you used to rap like the Fu-Schnickens. Word to Nasirrrr, so true.

  • It’s the roc

    @QUIT WHILE YOUR (YOU’RE) AHEAD

    I’d love to hear you run down your long list of rappers that are better than Jay Z…

  • They Hate then Delete Me

    Thank god Nas dropped Illmatic so Jay could figure out how to really rap. This is that pre Biggie, Nas, Pac bullshit Jay Z use to spit that no one would pay to hear. When Jay was releasing wack albums that he has been clever to never mention with the rest of his catalog. Jay has come along way.

  • brooklyn

    LOL JAYZ IS A FRAUD… HAD U NIGGAS FOOLED FOR CLOSE TO 20 YRS LOL… JAYZ LOOK LIKE A REAL HUSTLER / GANGSTER… LIKE THE SHIT HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT ON HIS REASONALBLE DOUBT ALBUM LOL FUCKIN FOOLS…. DAME DASH MADE JAYZ !!!

  • Tbones

    @They Hate and Brooklyn, Stans will always be stans, they couldnt see the light even if it hit them right in the face.

    Jay used to rap like the Fu- Schnickens before Nas dropped the original blueprint ie Illmatic. All Nas did was give Jay a rap style for him to run with.

    To think Jay stans still insist Ether was no facts, hahahaha.

  • Day Truthhhh

    Over 100K hits on world star

  • MR. UNDI$PUTED THE MOGUL

    @Tbones, HATERS WILL ALWAYS BE HATERS!!!! I GOT MAD LOVE FOR NAS, BUT IF YOU PUT THEIR RECORD SALES SIDE BY SIDE ALBUM BY ALBUM IT’S NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!! DON’T EVEN GET STARTED ON GLOBAL IMPACT & TOTAL ACCOMPOLISHMENTS, YOU CAN’T FAKE ANY OF THAT, NO MATTER HOW BLIND YOU ARE!!! @brooklyn “NIGGAZ SAYING THEY MAD HOV MADE HOV SAY OK MAKE ANOTHER HOV!!!” I GOT LOVE FOR DAME AS WELL HOWEVER AS ALWAYS TALENT WILL ALWAYS OVERCOME SOMEONE WHO THINKS THEY KNOW IT ALL. JUST LOOK AT HOW MUCH $$$ SUGE MADE AS THE TRUE TALENTED SUPERSTARS LEFT DEATH ROW!!!! IF A PERSON HAS A TALENT UNLESS THEY GET HURT & CAN’T USE THAT TALENT, THEY CAN DO IT ANYWHERE BUT TAKE SOMEONE WHO BY CHANCE MEETS SOMEONE REALLY TALENTED FORM A PARTNERSHIP & BREAK UP, THEY MAY NEVER MEET ANOTHER SUPERSTAR TALENT! LAST I HEARD DAME WAS GOING TO HELP JIM JONES GET ON BROADWAY?!?!!?

    PEACE & GET MONEY!!!
    MOGUL $$$ GAME ’13!!!!

  • Day Truthhhh

    Over 100K hits on world star.

  • Tbones

    @MR UNDISPUTED STAN, i see u dint address d fact that Jay used to rap like the Fu-schnickens and nobody gave a fuck abt his old ass until a 20 yr old Nas dropped the Illmatic; the original Blueprint and saved his ass. Ofcourse we all still remember the sampling of Nas on a couple of Jay’s earlier hits. FACT