Hughes Brothers Talk Tupac Altercation

In the current issue of VIBE, Allen Hughes (on the left) breaks his silence regarding the 1993 altercation between he and Tupac. Their dispute stemmed from Pac losing the role of “Shariff” in their film, Menace II Society. Pac was later convicted of assault and battery.

“The biggest misnomer is that me and Tupac got into any fight. It was me and 12 Crips that he got to jump me. He didn’t do shit,” Allen claims. “Tupac didn’t lay a hand on me. I had my hands on him. But there was not a physical fight between me and Tupac. It was a physical fight between me and 12 gangbangers. I believe they are called the Rolling 40s and they rolled me up pretty good.”

Allen adds:

“Tupac was an artist. Tupac was not a gangbanger. Tupac could not fight to save his motherfucking life. I know that for a fact. He was an immensely gifted person and he was far, far, from a thug.” He lets out a deep sigh. “I think that’s just years of frustration that just came out.”

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  • mac DIESEL

    SHIIIIT, EVERYBODY KNEW THAT!!!! TUPAC WASN”T BUILT LIKE THAT!!!! PAC COULD POP ALOT OF SHIT BUT THAT’S ABOUT IT!!!! DON’T MEAN PAC WAS A SOFTIE BUT PAC WAS STRONGER WIT THE MIND THAN BEIN’ PHYSICAL!!!! HE HAD THUGS AROUND HIM!!!! BUT WIT THAT BEIN’ SAID, WHY THE FUCK THESE NIGGAS TALKIN’ ABOUT THIS SHIT NOW!!!! THESE NIGGAS GONNA CATCH ALOT OF HEAT FROM THESE TUPAC OBSESSED FANS/STANS!!!!! GOOD LUCK NIGGAS!!!!!

    DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!!!

  • periodpoint

    FUCK OUTTA HERE YOU 2 PUSSIES, ITS COURT DOCUMENT FILED ON BEHALF OF YOU THAT 2PAC HIT YOU. ONLY SUCKAS WAIT UNTIL A MAN DIES TO TALK SHIT.
    SAY THAT TO SUGE.

  • Young Sha

    “Tupac was an artist. Tupac was not a gangbanger..”

    Obviously not, just like 99.9% of the rappers in the game today.

  • Some Like It Hot

    hmmm… I don’t doubt their story.. and I have to say I agree 100% with Mac diesel

  • B.Dot

    BUT WIT THAT BEIN’ SAID, WHY THE FUCK THESE NIGGAS TALKIN’ ABOUT THIS SHIT NOW!!!!

    ^
    They have a new movie coming out next month, Book Of Eli, with Denzel. So thats bound to be asked in any interview or write up they do

  • Nathaniel

    1. what does gangbanger and fighting have to do with each other. cuz allen hughes ain’t no gangbanger, but he “had his hands on” pac?

    2. 17 yrs later and these niggas are FINALLY coming out with all this rhetoric? when Pac was screaming “yea i beat them niggas ass” in 93 where the fuck were you two?

    3. if 12 crips jump you, you don’t (a) press charges on 2pac, and (b) WALK away from it. niggas wouldn’t been either hospitalized or worse.

    4. u expect us to believe 12 crips made it into the movie studio or office or whatever with no police action or nothin?

    some how this shit just seems like bullshit. not sayin pac was or wasn’t whatever they claim, but uhhh…damn near 17 yrs later niggas?. talkin maaad slick about a nigga thats been dead since 1996…13 yrs….c’mon sons!

    WE DONT BELIEVE YOU, YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE!

  • Nathaniel

    co-sign mac diesel, periodpoint too.

    @B-Dot

    yeah thats true too. them niggas came out of nowhere with Book of Eli. so i can see why they’d be getting this question alot

    but didn’t dead presidents come out in like 1995? why NOW, as far as all this shit they sayin. back in 1993 it was Pac attacked them, court case, the whole nine…then dead presidents drops, no peep.

    Shook Ones? lol

  • MisterUpgrade

    I still don’t know how Tupac got this persona when all he ever did was get shot, save for the casino incident. Reminds me of another current rapper who has a “hard to kill” persona since he got shot. “Y’all respect the one who got shot, I respect the shooter”.

  • Dee

    Someone forgot to tell Pac that Bishop was a character on-screen, not off.

  • Big Homie

    17 years from now, Chris Brown is going to come out of nowhere and say, “Yea I hit, bite and choked her” or Rihanna is going to say, “I deserved it because I beat his ass first”.

    DON’T HATE ON MY OPINION!!!!!! (c) mac DIESEL

  • Nathaniel

    @big homie

    or…they’ll both admit it was just some rough sex in a tight spot that got a little out of hand. they say women from barbados are maaaaad aggressive…

    i kid i kid! lol (before niggas get sensitive)

  • papichulo

    I never liked Tupac because it was clear from jump that he wasn´t what he claimed to be, a thug. MUsically he wasn´t bad but far from one of the best, FAR.

  • Allen Hughes

    …and there was like 50 guys against me and Mr. T was there, but I was all like PIU PIU with my gun and they were all like no way this guy is too hardcore and they all ran. Then these fine bitches ran up to me and they all like thank you Allen thank you and they started sucking my dick right there and then and I’m all like fuck yeah bitches suck that foot-long. True story…

    *smokes cigar*

  • DARKAQUA

    MAN GET THE F*CK OUT HERE HUGHES BROTHERS…LIKE REALLY ARE WE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS NOW???? BABIES HAVE BEEN BORN, WENT TO SCHOOL AND GRADUATED…AND NOW WE TALKING ABOUT A DECEASED MAN FIGHTING ALTERCATION!!!

    IN THE WORDS OF ED LOVER….CMON SON!! VIBE RESTING PAPER ON LATE BULLSH*T!!

  • Barry Washington

    This is old news. Tupac was a studio gangster who aligned himself with bad people. Nothing more than that.

  • Will

    cuz is lying his ass off 2pac was running wit Suge do you think that Suge Knight was rolling with 40 Ave Crips like they werent even called 40′s bacc then they were called Vernon Ave gang

    and even if it is true dude look like a bitch for 2 reasons becuz he sued Pac and lied to the judge and said Pac hit him and

    He talkin shit about a dead man I mean how you goin to try to come bacc at a nigga who been dead for more than a decade

    If 2pac not built like that why he just now coming bacc at Pac like Pac called him a bitch and kinda shit on interviews he never said anything but when he dead and his film career is dying he talking shit about a dead man

    I hope somebody do whoop his ass for this one

  • Will

    and its funny people saying Pac aint built like that this is the same nigga on film on surveilence camera minutes before his death on surveillance Knoccing some dude to the fuccing ground with 1 punch

    this is the same nigga that shot a cop in the ass becuz the police was harassing another blacc man

    Pac wasnt a thug that nigga was Crazy What Rapper besides eminem do you know will use they own gun to shoot a Cop

    like yall can say whatever yall want about Pac and 50 Cent but if them niggas was to come to yall hood all yall niggas would be on they dicc the whole time like You 50 cent haters wouldnt dare say G-unot or Fucc you to dude face you would be asking for autographs and shit

  • Scotty Rock

    So when WSHH got sued, did the crazy people come here?

    Are y’all skeeted or some shit? Kuz’ y’all some emphasizin’ ass motherfuckers.

  • Ty

    Hmmm …… I guess the dude has a right to tell his version of what happened . However I don’t think it’s in good taste at all to start speculating on what Pac was or wasn’t in his personal life only after he’s safely in the ground . . I didn’t know he was close enough with Pac to have an informed opinion on how he handled himself outside of a movie studio anyhow . Pac may have just been actin’ like a thug or maybe not. not but he’s dead now either way . Dude is obviously bitter about the years the story about Pac smacking him and his brother up has circulated . It’s his own fault that it was unchallenged though . He could have been and spoke up .

    The story itself sounds shaky. He had time to count how many dudes were jumping him? He still managed to get his hands on Pac during the beating ? Pac got charged with assault and battery , how if he didn’t touch him ? Who knows and really who cares ? It’s a dead issue now . To tell his story is one thing but to finally get balls enough to take shots at a man only after he’s dead is soft and disrespectful. Stick to the facts of the story , stop the speculation beyond that Hughes .

  • http://kreativesouls.com that nigga from the Bay

    it’s wack to be sayin’ this right now

  • Exodus

    To everybody saying Pac was a studio gangster and all he he got a rep for was getting shot, ya’ll need to do ya research. Pac got his rep for shooting 2 cops and getting away with it because they never identified themselves as officers.

  • ctg

    Pac wasn’t a thug when he first started rapping but he became one.

    To become something you have to have direct experience with it and that’s what Pac tried to do by acting out and hanging out with shady characters. It’s weird because at first he was just doing that to add authenticity to the thug life movement, which was trying to stop inner city crime from the inside-out as opposed to the typical outside-in way that the government practices. It wanted the hood to regulate itself.

    He was too immature to see it all the way thru tho. You gotta understand, dude was only like 22-23 years old when all of this was going on. That’s young as hell. Just being young, in the spotlight and moving too fast caught up with him and he got shot in NYC and went to jail.

    Then he switched up his whole ideology to the killiuminati shit, which was on some power/capitalism shit.

    Anyway, back to the point. There might be some truth to Allen Hughes’ claims. During the whole thug life shit (93-95) Pac was rolling with crips out in L.A. Once he joined Death Row he started screaming M.O.B. because that was Suge’s set. It was all about power at that point. Daz once called Pac a set hopper because one minute he was crip affiliated and the other he was blood. Suge was a multi-millionaire with a real street army that included LAPD officers. That dude was powerful and feared. Death Row was really untouchable and Pac wanted to be a part of that after awhile.

    Kinda pointless for Hughes to mention this now. The brothers have done movies since Menace and could have addressed this a long time ago. Plus, he’s probably embellishing the story. If 12 crips jumped him why didn’t he press charges against them? He pressed charges against Pac, who according to him he didn’t have a fight with. Does that make any sense?

  • http://www.smh.com SMH

    Clearly he is lying.

    #1 Tupac was not running with a crip set in Los Angeles in 1992 (he wasn’t even in LA yet)

    #2 They went after Tupac, not all the other people

    #3 No one gives a fuck about them but they wanted to bring this up for buzz

  • e20

    Duck Tales

    They should just stay behind the scenes where they belong.

    Tupac rolling with Crips? C’mon Son

    They never seen Tupac fight so how do they know he can’t?

    Tupac gets convicted by a judge for assult and battery but Pac never put a hand on him? OK

    I don’t think the Hughes Brothers are or ever was in a position to guage Pac or anyone elses Gangster. These dudes always been suburbanites on top of being geeks. House Negroes, you never see them in the field.

  • http://www.courtpapers.com Court Papers

    Does everyone forget that Allen Hughes went and told the police Tupac hit him? It was in court papers.

  • Roy

    Let me quote Eminem for you.

    “Dressin ridiculous
    blue and red like I don’t see what the big deal is”

    I don’t care if Pac was a thug or not. That don’t matter to me. His music was amazing. All that matters to me.

  • gaza

    SHUT THE FUCK UP AND KEEP THAT SILENCE CUZ YOU”RE FULL OF SHIT!

  • gaza

    these guys aint even old enough to kno pac

  • http://www.twitter.com/paragon216 paragon216

    1. according to pac he didnt know the crips, they were just hanging around the set and decided to jump in…they LATER got down with thug life

    2. the hughes brothers brought the nation of islam security with them to court (sounds kinda bitchass to me)

    3. pac’s physical altercations are well known, there’s the fight after tysonvs seldon and dream hampton details him fighting with some crips in the very same source article that covers the court appearance with the hughes bros

  • Drucifer

    A little late aint it???

  • http://[email protected] carl weston

    This ain’t the first time these dudes talked about that fight…They talk about this like 12 years ago in one or a manny of the hiphop mags of the late 90′s..u young cats just wasn’t around…lol

  • mmkayy

    who didnt already know that anyways bunch of idiots let the man RIP..

  • Masterafa

    How the fuck they gonna talk shit know when Pacs dead, those some pussy ass biyches!!! thats why u dont see making shit no more 2Pac had them motherfukers banned after gettn there ass beat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • illaDeuce

    Pac’s downfall came when he ran with suge on that thug life shit. The man became like tony montana cocky as fuck and loud as fuck. Pac couldnt ever back half the shit he talked but I guess him dying solidified his image as one of the biggest gangsters pop culture has ever seen. He was a poet, he shoulda stayed a poet, instead he openly embraced the gangster image suge set up for him. With all respect though if he died a poet as opposed to a G he wouldnt be remembered and “adored” by the amount of people he is today.

  • AyJay

    These cats is some clowns just tryna make a buzz 4 there new flick, yall wouldnt trash Pac when he was alive dont do it now, thats a buster move!

  • http://theinfamoussyndicate.blogspot.com/ Noles506

    Pac couldn’t fight? Dude was built! (no homo) & he did time in prisons & shit, I’m sure he could handle himself…..fuck these snitches.

  • gi joe

    In most interviews with people who knew Pac. They always say Pac couldnt fight, or he was gettn beat up. But that dude is wack for talking this shit when Pac isnt alive. This is old news man, such a bitch move. At least he got his punk azz jumped anyway.

  • Consignment

    We need to dead this new trend of niggaz poppoin’ shit on the dead.

    1.) Fredro Star said he smacked the shit out of ODB back in the day. ODB can’t refute that claim.

    2.) The Hughes Brothers sayin’ Pac ain’t rush them in 1993. Pac can’t refute that claim.

    3.) Next thing you know Lionel Richie gon’ come out and say “Yeah I kicked James Brown ass back in ’77, cuz he ain’t like the Commodores.”

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  • William

    How many drunk, off-duty bad cops with stolen hand guns have the Hughes Brothers shot in the a*s.

    2Pac. Born leader. Legendary.

  • makaveli

    THEM MOTHERFUCKIN HUGHES BROTHERS ARE SOME COWARD WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TUPAC SAID IT IN HIS BLACKWATCH INTERVIEW PAC SAID ONE OF THEM YOU ACTIN LIKE A BITCH ONE OF THE TWINS REPLY NAN YOU ACTIN LIKE A BITCH PAC SAID GOD DAMN IF IM A BITCH SMACK A BITCH AGAIN ONE OF THEM REPLY IF IM A BICH SMACK A BITCH AND PAC STEP INTO HIM AND THE THING IS THEM GOD TWINS ARE BOTH BITCHES THATS REAL AND AINT THATS REAL WAIT UNTIL HE PASSED AWAY YOU OPEN YOUR GOD DAMN MOUTH THATS ILLEGAL SHIT REALLY DUMB

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  • Dave

    Thatsb bullshit.What about all the cases pac caught because of physical beef?? These lame niggaz gonna claim he couldnt fight to save his life..whatever..No real pac fan will believe that shit….

  • loveme

    fck all yall cuz tupac was da shit and tupac a real thug niqqa why would he lie they lyin cuz they the one got they ass beat by pac !!!!!!

  • Smooth Touch

    I think you niggas are Haters and Bitches….. Thugs shoot Cops in Atlanta and otherswise… Pac looked alittle thuggish whoopin dude ass in that Casino on camera, and took more shots then some Gangmembers… You hughes brothers are Hoe’s and so are you Co-signin ass bloggers! Better be careful Before Karma send a Thug thats Alive to Beat yo ass.. Or Worse!

  • giobravo

    Do these prissy ass bros even KNOW the difference between crips and bloods? Pac always sported red. That’s a blood. Biggie always rocked blue. That’s a cuz. Get it right! Why would Tupac get crips to roll these fools? Peace treaty in 93 wasn’t THAT recent to know fools like THAT and get them to jump somebody. Gangsta party was later later. Not until Snoop got out and that wasn’t until approx. ’96 before the Tyson fight. What do these dudes know about Jimmy Henchman and the shooting at Quad Studios?

  • me

    FUCK THE HUGHES BROTHERS PUNK ASS BITCHES